Wear a poppy.

[WhiteTom]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Can someone explain the method of putting on a poppy that works again. I am not quite understanding the poster previously.

Take the poppy and pin it onto the surface like you normally would. Then, grab the head of the pin and pull it out until you are far enough to push the pin through the poppy and then just put it through close enough to the edge so it looks nice. You get it so that the pin is first going through the coat or shirt and then through the side of the poppy.

[corporatejay]

I bought a canadian maple leaf to push through but I just don't feel right wearing a cheap trinket made in china on my lapel.

So I just ended up running over to the legion (on 7th) and they sell "poppy pins". It's the middle piece of the poppy in "pin" form. It's absolutely fantastic. It was three bucks (you can give more).

I recommend that much more than a canadian flag.

[onetwo_threefour]

A tip I haven't seen yet.

Take a piece of scotch tape and wrap a bit around the sharp end of the pin after you've put the poppy on, then it won't fall back through the hole. This works best for lapels and pockets where you can have the point of the pin behind the fabric instead of in front. (i.e. the pin goes through the fabric a total of three times) That way the tape is out of sight. The added benefit is that the pin won't poke you either.

[Magnum PEI]

I choose not wear a poppy as I am not proud of our military contributions on behalf of mother England- the largest Imperial power in world history. This Remeberance Day ask yourself why the Republic of Ireland was neutral in WWII.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I choose not wear a poppy as I am not proud of our military contributions on behalf of mother England- the largest Imperial power in world history. This Remeberance Day ask yourself why the Republic of Ireland was neutral in WWII.

Yes because fighting the Nazi's was a horrible contribution to the world. People like you make me shake my head in disbelief as to how much ignorance can exist within the Canadian population.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I choose not wear a poppy as I am not proud of our military contributions on behalf of mother England- the largest Imperial power in world history. This Remeberance Day ask yourself why the Republic of Ireland was neutral in WWII.

Then wear one for the men and women, better men and women, who came before you and died in the course of service to this great country. If you want to be a numbnuts, do it with something other than with the lives and history of our military men and women.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I choose not wear a poppy as I am not proud of our military contributions on behalf of mother England- the largest Imperial power in world history. This Remeberance Day ask yourself why the Republic of Ireland was neutral in WWII.

And people think I'm bad?

Wow.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I choose not wear a poppy as I am not proud of our military contributions on behalf of mother England- the largest Imperial power in world history. This Remeberance Day ask yourself why the Republic of Ireland was neutral in WWII.

Then do it for the Canadian soldiers who died liberating the Dutch.

[GGG]

Kind of off topic but still a long the lines people not remembering. My work has moved the rememberance day holiday to give us an extra day at Christmas. I don't think this is quite right and am wondering how many other employers have done this. It is not mandatory to do it but heavily encouraged.

[CaptainCrunch]

A lot of companies do it, and it pisses me off to no end. We give people civic holidays, but we don't make remembrance day mandatory.

[OilersBaby]

I wear one even though I dont live in Canada and people here are like why are you wearing a red plastic flower pin? I always explain that it's for the Canadian Freedom Fighters And I always remember the poem "In Flanders Fields"

[redforever]

Originally Posted by peter12

Then do it for the Canadian soldiers who died liberating the Dutch.

My son could tell you how the Dutch still feel about the Canadians liberating them.

He was lucky enough to participate in the Golden Anniversary celebrations held in Holland in May of 1995. He was in Grade 11 at the time, and was overwhelmed by the experience.

At the time, my son was in the honor band of Alberta. The instructor of the honor band grew up in Holland and had lived through the German occupation, and his family moved Canada after the war. He wanted to take a group of musicians over to celebrate his liberation, the idea being the youth band would come bearing instruments of peace, not like the young soldiers who freed them, who came bearing instruments of war.

The honor band had their formal wear and their casual wear if out as a group. The casual outfit had a prominent Canadian flag on the back of the jacket. Well my son said that when the Dutch people saw that Canadain flag, they would come up to them and hug them and and thank them over and over and over. And he said the older ones, who had suffered through the German occupation, many could not speak English except to say thank you, they just cried as they hugged them.

And the appreciation the Dutch have for Canadians was shown in many other ways, many of which Canadians never see on a daily basis. The Canadian war cemeteries are kept immaculate. And many individual crosses and burial spots are still lovingly cared for by the Dutch. They visit the fallen soldier on his birthday, in fact in some families, the burial spot is like a possession that is passed down in a will. When one family member who had the responsibility of maintaining the burial place of a fallen Canadian soldier passes on, then another family member of the next generation continues the upkeep, honoring that fallen soldier who died for their freedom and liberation.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by redforever

My son could tell you how the Dutch still feel about the Canadians liberating them.

He was lucky enough to participate in the Golden Anniversary celebrations held in Holland in May of 1995. He was in Grade 11 at the time, and was overwhelmed by the experience.

At the time, my son was in the honor band of Alberta. The instructor of the honor band grew up in Holland and had lived through the German occupation, and his family moved Canada after the war. He wanted to take a group of musicians over to celebrate his liberation, the idea being the youth band would come bearing instruments of peace, not like the young soldiers who freed them, who came bearing instruments of war.

The honor band had their formal wear and their casual wear if out as a group. The casual outfit had a prominent Canadian flag on the back of the jacket. Well my son said that when the Dutch people saw that Canadain flag, they would come up to them and hug them and and thank them over and over and over. And he said the older ones, who had suffered through the German occupation, many could not speak English except to say thank you, they just cried as they hugged them.

And the appreciation the Dutch have for Canadians was shown in many other ways, many of which Canadians never see on a daily basis. The Canadian war cemeteries are kept immaculate. And many individual crosses and burial spots are still lovingly cared for by the Dutch. They visit the fallen soldier on his birthday, in fact in some families, the burial spot is like a possession that is passed down in a will. When one family member who had the responsibility of maintaining the burial place of a fallen Canadian soldier passes on, then another family member of the next generation continues the upkeep, honoring that fallen soldier who died for their freedom and liberation.

mental note: visit Holland

i'm a bit of a buff for most anything WWII related since my grandfather served at Pearl Harbor and IMO it was one of the only truly "just" wars in human history. but though you can watch or read all sorts of movies, tv shows, and books about WWII it's hard to get a personal grasp of the significance without a personal connection. and i imagine going overseas to visit the Canadian cemetaries and having the chance to speak with some Dutch veterans would drive that significance home immensly

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

I have nothing uselful to add.

FIXED

[habernac]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

A lot of companies do it, and it pisses me off to no end. We give people civic holidays, but we don't make remembrance day mandatory.

It's criminal. I haven't worked anywhere recently that doesn't give the day off, but there's no way I'll ever work Nov 11.

[Flame On]

I proudly wear poppies, for about an hour until it completes it's mission and falls off, requiring me to get another to wear. Which I'm happy to do, I mean it's a lot easier dropping some coins in a plastic box than storming a far off beach with high calibre machine gun fire coming at you and your buddies head gets blown off!
My wife's company has required her to work the last couple of Nov 11th's, which I find appalling.
As for cemeteries etc. in Europe, the ones I have visited in France were huge and on gorgeously manicured grounds surrounded by the beautiful French country side. I was impressed visiting them even as a surly teen. Many of the towns in and around them have Canadian flags (as well as others but lots of Canadian) on flag poles etc. It's moving.

[csnarpy]

As a vet of the PG War, I just shake my head when i see posts dismaying soldiers efforts, while being put in a situation that their governments mandate.

I realize that today's war efforts are not WWII (which I would have gladly volunteered for), but that does not make today's soldiers lesser men & women.

War sucks, we all know that but, Remembrance Day is about the men & women who died in the line of duty. It isn't about the war.

As for companies making people work on this day..... well i shake my head again. Growing up, this was always mandatory.

[worth]

Originally Posted by GGG

Kind of off topic but still a long the lines people not remembering. My work has moved the rememberance day holiday to give us an extra day at Christmas. I don't think this is quite right and am wondering how many other employers have done this. It is not mandatory to do it but heavily encouraged.

My company has done that as well the past couple years.

[Magnum PEI]

Good one, Ok I Get It! You really fixed my post well, while not actually contributing anything yourself. Your mindless patriotism is how some of these wars started. Look at the two World Wars. If you think Great Britains' (and vicariously, Canada's) motives were altruistic in either war you need to give your head a shake. I wont even talk about WWI because our entry into that war is so ridiculous it boggles the mind (mostly due to a petty uncle-nephew rivalry, and a naval arms race), but Britain's ness afterwards was truly remarkable and directly led to World War 2. In that conflict we declared war on Germany not because Hitler was killing Jews, but because he invaded Poland. We actually turned boat loads of Jews away from our shores, and what do you think happened to them? Now in hindsight maybe we were on the slightly less evil side, but if you look at the actions of our allies its very debatable. Just wikipedia "war rape" and find out how many rapes were commited by our friends in 1945. And yeah, Canadians liberated Holland, but only because America and Great Britain were to busy carpet bombing every major city in Germany.

Now maybe you people have bought ino the propaganda, but I haven't. The days of the nation-sate are ending and people 200 years from now will laugh at us for sending troops to their death in wars thousands of miles away, in the name of king and country, and then wearing little flowers to "remember the dead". If it was so crappy fighting Germany then why did they volunteer?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Good one, Ok I Get It! You really fixed my post well, while not actually contributing anything yourself. Your mindless patriotism is how some of these wars started. Look at the two World Wars. If you think Great Britains' (and vicariously, Canada's) motives were altruistic in either war you need to give your head a shake. I wont even talk about WWI because our entry into that war is so ridiculous it boggles the mind (mostly due to a petty uncle-nephew rivalry, and a naval arms race), but Britain's ness afterwards was truly remarkable and directly led to World War 2. In that conflict we declared war on Germany not because Hitler was killing Jews, but because he invaded Poland. We actually turned boat loads of Jews away from our shores, and what do you think happened to them? Now in hindsight maybe we were on the slightly less evil side, but if you look at the actions of our allies its very debatable. Just wikipedia "war rape" and find out how many rapes were commited by our friends in 1945. And yeah, Canadians liberated Holland, but only because America and Great Britain were to busy carpet bombing every major city in Germany.

Now maybe you people have bought ino the propaganda, but I haven't. The days of the nation-sate are ending and people 200 years from now will laugh at us for sending troops to their death in wars thousands of miles away, in the name of king and country, and then wearing little flowers to "remember the dead". If it was so crappy fighting Germany then why did they volunteer?

Thanks for your deep historical insight. For every bad guy, there were 10 great guys. I am actually not going to engage you any further, I know exactly what kind of person you are and I know that you can't be reasoned with.