CPS vs Rider Fans

[Jetsfan]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I'm actually part of the security team for the football games. My Father runs the security there so my brothers and I help him out there from time to time.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that -without question- Saskatchewan crowds are the worst in the league. Edmonton games are huge, and we beef up a little bit for them... but Saskatchewan games are treated like potential riots. We have a whole other rule book for Rider games.

I don't know what the deal is with Rider fans, but I can guarantee with absolute certainty that they are the worst fans in the league when it comes to doing stupid, dangerous, ignorant things in visiting stadiums. Even with just general rudeness and arrogance (drunk or not!).

The above statement is backed with almost 20 years of personal, first-hand experience dealing with visiting fans of every single team in the league. It is absolutely indisputable.


Edit: btw I don't talk like this in person. I dunno wtf happens to me when I get in front of a keyboard...

Agreed. Rider fans have serious issues with inadequecy. I don't care if they cheer for their team or chant "Calgary sucks" My self-esteem is not predicated on whether or not people like the team I cheer for. Unfortunately, this happens again and again.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by flip

I know this is a Calgary board but not a single person so far in this thread has said "maybe the Stamps fans hate having their home building invaded to a far greater extent than with any other team so they start s*** just as often as Rider fans"

I know you're all going to just keep piling on the Rider fans but like I said they aren't fighting themselves. I'd be willing to bet fault is at least 50/50.

In fact all the blind faith in the awesomeness of your own fans just makes me hate the Stamps fans even more. Typical self righteous bull crap. Like you're all innocent.

...and this is the typical attitude I get from most of the Rider fans I have to deal with at the stadium.

Why is it so difficult to understand that you're a guest in someone else's stadium? Rider fans have this mentality that every stadium they go to is their home turf.

If 6 people walked into your house tonight and started getting drunk and jumping around in front of you, screaming in your face while you're trying to watch TV in your living room... are you going to sit there and politely let them do whatever they want? Did you ever stop to think that maybe fans just want to go to a game and watch their team play without having to deal with a bunch of drunken ######s with watermelons on their heads jumping around in front of them every time a Saskatchewan player does something even remotely interesting?

I stood in the stands last game and watched some drunken moron with green hair screaming at a 5 year-old kid in a stamps jersey about how awesomely the Riders just ran the ball two yards. The boy's father told him to shut up and the next thing I know, I'm in fight-control mode.

I've got about 20 years worth of Rider-fan stories like that one, so if I were you I'd just let it go.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Prototype

Riders games are the most bizzare games, cause the fans in the stadium are 50% green, 50% red.

No. Not even close.

The media may say so, and it may feel that way if you are sitting in the middle of a bunch of Rider fans, but there are never more then 10-15% Green wearing fans in the stands.

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by flip

I know this is a Calgary board but not a single person so far in this thread has said "maybe the Stamps fans hate having their home building invaded to a far greater extent than with any other team so they start s*** just as often as Rider fans"

I know you're all going to just keep piling on the Rider fans but like I said they aren't fighting themselves. I'd be willing to bet fault is at least 50/50.

In fact all the blind faith in the awesomeness of your own fans just makes me hate the Stamps fans even more. Typical self righteous bull crap. Like you're all innocent.

You are absolutely right. Why, just earlier this season it was all over the news how Stamp fans were throwing beer cans at the opposing team so bad they had to leave the sidelines area.... and just a few years ago us wild Stamp fans dumped manure on our kicker's neighbor's lawn because he missed a field goal....

Oh wait....

Sarcasm aside, I agree that every fan base has it's share of idiots that like to cause trouble, taunt opposing team's fans, be jerks, etc. Sask fans seem to definitely out number any other fan base in this regard though. Chalk it up to us bitter Calgary fans being jealous of your great Rider's all you want, but as other's have pointed out, the biggest problem's at Stamp games are not when the Esks are in town... it is when the Riders are in town.

I had tickets to the game on Monday and I gave them away because I didn't want to have to deal with idiotic Rider fans. I would have gone with my family for any other team.

[MissTeeks]

Seriously, this is why I hate Rider/Stamps games. Even when they are over, they are nothing but a soap opera.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Why is it so difficult to understand that you're a guest in someone else's stadium? Rider fans have this mentality that every stadium they go to is their home turf.

If 6 people walked into your house tonight and started getting drunk and jumping around in front of you, screaming in your face while you're trying to watch TV in your living room... are you going to sit there and politely let them do whatever they want? Did you ever stop to think that maybe fans just want to go to a game and watch their team play without having to deal with a bunch of drunken ######s with watermelons on their heads jumping around in front of them every time a Saskatchewan player does something even remotely interesting?

I think that is the root of the problem. Riders fans act like its their home turf. Even the ones who aren't drunk and are well behaved. This irratates the home team fans and brings out thier idiots and as soon as you have two sets of idiots the fights start breaking out.

[Kjesse]

My only concern with that video is the officer put himself at risk jumping into the crowd like that.

The guy tugging on the cop deserves his arrest and if he resisted, a couple 'head stuns' were certainly in order.

[pepper24]

Originally Posted by flip

I know this is a Calgary board but not a single person so far in this thread has said "maybe the Stamps fans hate having their home building invaded to a far greater extent than with any other team so they start s*** just as often as Rider fans"

I know you're all going to just keep piling on the Rider fans but like I said they aren't fighting themselves. I'd be willing to bet fault is at least 50/50.

In fact all the blind faith in the awesomeness of your own fans just makes me hate the Stamps fans even more. Typical self righteous bull crap. Like you're all innocent.

Take off the homer glasses. I've been a season ticket holder for years and last game was embarassing. I'll take that this was a small minority but what a bunch of sore losers......not gracious in victory or defeat. More about the beer than the football. They make Oilers and Canucks fans seems decent.

I'll compare SK fans to the Red Mile in 2004. Over the years, Riders fans have been great at McMahon. It was all about football. Early in the 2004, the Red Mile was awesome as it was all about hockey. Now both are overfilled with a minority of fans that don't even care about their respective sports. These minority of the Rider fans win or lose will be idiots as they don't really care about the game. Those are the fans that got kicked out last game. Puts a black eye on the majority of Rider fans which are good folks.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Delgar

My only concern with that video is the officer put himself at risk jumping into the crowd like that.

The guy tugging on the cop deserves his arrest and if he resisted, a couple 'head stuns' were certainly in order.

Looked to me like the rider fan turtled and pulled the cop over him and down the stands.

I share the sentiments that Rider fans have pretty much ruined Stamps games for me, which I suppose is what they're trying to do.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by old-fart

I had tickets to the game on Monday and I gave them away because I didn't want to have to deal with idiotic Rider fans. I would have gone with my family for any other team.

Pretty much it. I'm not a huge football fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I do like to try and get to at least one or two games a year. Saskatchewan *should* be a fun game to get to, but thanks to this very large minority of clowns that come along, I never bother going to a Stamps-Riders game anymore.

[GGG]

The games aren;t as bad as people here or the video make them out to be. Sit anywhere but White seats and you have Stamps fans and Rider fans co-existing fine. You can easily go there with family and have a good time.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by BOSSY

Joke or not what a stupid statement...

So you've never come across a cop who's a total ######bag? Because I have.

No, they're not ALL knobs (I actually have a few friends who are cops) but there are a few who can be total dicks.

Point being, people have no right to fight them. Because they will win.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by GGG

The games aren;t as bad as people here or the video make them out to be. Sit anywhere but White seats and you have Stamps fans and Rider fans co-existing fine. You can easily go there with family and have a good time.

OK, two questions for you then:

- What percentage of the stadium is "white?" Looking at the seating chart, and counting Sport Chek and Safeway as white (because they are; you just can't buy season tickets there), I'd say white takes up a good 40% of the stadium.

- How many of the Red, Blue, etc seats are not taken up by season ticket holders? I just know that anytime I've tried to buy single game tickets my options have always been white, or maybe super-white if I'm lucky.

It really shouldn't be up to the average fan going to a game to know to avoid almost 1/2 of the stadium. The fact of the matter is although it may be a small number of people causing trouble, those people should be dealt with and taken away. McMahon is not a night club, it is a family setting.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by GGG

The games aren;t as bad as people here or the video make them out to be. Sit anywhere but White seats and you have Stamps fans and Rider fans co-existing fine. You can easily go there with family and have a good time.

I kind of agree with that. i went to a Stamps/Rider game earlier in the year with about 15 guys who are die hard Rider fans. I don't watch CFL that much, but to annoy them I wore my brother's Danielson jersey, which stuck out like a sore thumb in a sea of green. We were in the cheap seats, and I joined in the heckling back and forth, but not once did I feel like I might get in a fight.

Saskatchewan....hard to spell easy to draw!!!!

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

So you've never come across a cop who's a total ######bag? Because I have.

And of course, you weren't doing anything wrong in order to attrach the attention of this police officer, correct?!

In my experience, cops tend to be quite polite to the general population, but when faced with someone with an attitude problem, a police officer is quite capable of equalling the belligerence being directed at them.

[RougeUnderoos]

I can understand why he went after the guy, but the cop didn't exactly do himself any favours with that reaction. First of all, he just lets the other guy go, and then a few seconds later the cop is on his back with the guy he's gone after and about 4 other people on top of him.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by ken0042

OK, two questions for you then:

- What percentage of the stadium is "white?" Looking at the seating chart, and counting Sport Chek and Safeway as white (because they are; you just can't buy season tickets there), I'd say white takes up a good 40% of the stadium.

- How many of the Red, Blue, etc seats are not taken up by season ticket holders? I just know that anytime I've tried to buy single game tickets my options have always been white, or maybe super-white if I'm lucky.

It really shouldn't be up to the average fan going to a game to know to avoid almost 1/2 of the stadium. The fact of the matter is although it may be a small number of people causing trouble, those people should be dealt with and taken away. McMahon is not a night club, it is a family setting.

Really what I meant buy the whites are the last 2 sections on each end so certainly not 40% of the seats. I'm not sure where the seating charts draw the line. I have season tickets in superwhites so I am not sure what percent is season tickets. I have sat in the whites as well in the past and even then it isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It is not Rah Rah Stamps like you would expect at a home stadium but I have never been concerned for anyones safety.

[BOSSY]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

So you've never come across a cop who's a total ######bag? Because I have.

No, they're not ALL knobs (I actually have a few friends who are cops) but there are a few who can be total dicks.

Point being, people have no right to fight them. Because they will win.

Just like you and me Cops are people... They have good days and bad days - good moods and bad moods but to call someone who has sworn to put your life in front of their own a total ######bag is just stupid.

Can't imagine why you may have had a bad experience with a cop

Point being, people have no right to fight them. Because it's against the law and just plain stupid.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Howie_16

And of course, you weren't doing anything wrong in order to attrach the attention of this police officer, correct?!

In my experience, cops tend to be quite polite to the general population, but when faced with someone with an attitude problem, a police officer is quite capable of equalling the belligerence being directed at them.

Okay, the point I'm making (before you derail this thread) is that it doesn't matter if the cop is being an a-hole to you or not, you're not going to win if you decide to fight him. That's it. This isn't a debate about whether or not cops are dicks, or what I did or didn't do to form that opinion. They MAY BE a total ######bag at the time, but people have no right to try and take them on.

That's all.

[The Fonz]

I don't pay much attention to the CFL, but just out of curiousity, are the Rider fans equally as bad in Edmonton? Winnipeg? Or is this problem happening primarily in Calgary?