40th Canadian Federal Election - Welcome to another Conservative Minority (whee!)

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Justin Trudeau is pushing 40 now even though he looks like a little pup. I think it's about time he threw his hat in the ring. He doesn't have a lot of experience, but like a certain guy south of the border, he is charismatic and is an inspirational speaker. I know in the last convention, he supported Kennedy, but it will soon be Justin's time. The Liberals haven't had a leader able to capture the hearts and minds of MOST OF THE NATION since his father.

As for Dion saying that he will stay on... bah, I don't think the party will give him the choice.

He's also about as intelligent as my dog.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by peter12

He's also about as intelligent as my dog.

Nah, your dog is much smarter.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Harper gambled and made a huge mistake. What was the point of his election timing? To beat the U.S. elections? Why did he move forward his own date?

He could have rode out the financial crisis and proved the government was holding steady (he couldn't have forseen it popping up in the middle of his campaign of course)...had a few more lax years of a lame Dion as the opposition leader, etc...all doing nothing but blowing more millions of dollars on an election that will result in the same minority and government structure we had in the first place. Now the cons might even lose seats and the liberals will be resurgent if Dion is ousted.

Stupid!

There was also the problem of committee work grinding to a halt with nothing but delays. Government basically stopped functioning at any sort of reasonable capacity. With luck, that will not be present in the next little while, especially given no party will want another election.

As far as Justin Trudeau goes, I agree with CC. His selection would instantly alienate the west (not that the Liberals ever cared about the west), but also hamper them in Quebec.

And frankly, what kind of message does that send to the rest of the country? "We think you are so stupid you will vote for a name despite that name having an utter lack of experience."

[moon]

Originally Posted by peter12

He's also about as intelligent as my dog.

Originally Posted by Azure

Nah, your dog is much smarter.

I was going to say don't insult your dog like that.

Azure is right he is much smarter than Trudeau.

No offense to Devil's Advocate because he is not alone in his belief, but the thought that this guy is appealing to most of the nation is just nuts. He is appealing to liberal folks and nowhere close to a moderate type that could draw new support to the Liberal party.

Personally I hope they keep the train wreck that is Dion but if they have to replace him I wouldn't mind Trudeau being the choice.

[Stranger]

Trudeau would be just as unpopular as Dion. A very large portion of the country hates the name Trudeau and would only lead to more trouble within the Liberal Party. I hate the way he is portrayed as some sort of crown prince of Canada by some circles of the Liberal Party and the eastern media.

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...=M1ARTM0012782

[the_only_turek_fan]

What time do the polls close tomorrow?

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

What time do the polls close tomorrow?

I believe 7:30

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

I believe 7:30

Correct, as verified by Elections Canada website:

http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?...textonly=false

However, that's just in Alberta ... they close at 7:00 local time in BC and at other times ranging from 7:30 to 9:30 p.m. local time depending on the province.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Justin Trudeau is pushing 40 now even though he looks like a little pup. I think it's about time he threw his hat in the ring. He doesn't have a lot of experience, but like a certain guy south of the border, he is charismatic and is an inspirational speaker. I know in the last convention, he supported Kennedy, but it will soon be Justin's time. The Liberals haven't had a leader able to capture the hearts and minds of MOST OF THE NATION since his father.

As for Dion saying that he will stay on... bah, I don't think the party will give him the choice.

His time will come... but there will at least one more, maybe two, Liberal leaders before he makes a run at it.

[browna]

Trudeau running for the Libs would be as smart a party move as the Conservatives choosing Ben Mulroney.

Regardless of tomorrow turns out (PC minority IMO), the Liberals need someone energetic and charismatic if they want any hope in future elections. Dion appeals to hardcore liberals at best, who'll vote for any person's name who's on the red sign, but hardly does he come across as being able to convince any moderate/undecided voters to sway his way, let alone convince any stragglers or people looking for even one good reason to vote for him over Harper.

Just my own thoughts, I think the next PC leader will be someone a little bit more charasmatic and outgoing as well, whenever that is..if the Liberals beat them to that race, that next election will be pretty tight.

[flamey_mcflame]

Well, looks like Harper's Conservatives will get another minority government. Hey Harper, next time you do your internal polls and see yourself with a majority government, make sure you don't open up your Republican wannabe mouth and ruin the whole thing.

Of course, he wanted an election. Thats what the highest spending government in Canadian history does. Hey, how else can we spend more of the taxpayers' money. Hmmm, how about 300 million for another election when no one wants an election. How about 18 billion to play cops and robbers in Afghanistan?? Hey, the Soviets couldn't defeat the Afghans, but our super powerful Canadian army will bring order to that country. And after all, all Afghans are the same, they have no tribal differences that have lasted many centuries. You'd better get our troops and my tax money out by 2011. Geez, 18 billion to play war games. What an utter waste.

And here's another suggestion, the next time you table legislation for fixed election dates, instead of a bill named Bill C-16, rename it Bill C-"I'm nothing more than a liar and don't believe any bill I table because I'll change my mind because I value nothing". It's your own bill Sweaters. That's what you wanted. But much like you, the bill was nothing more than a fraud.

It sure is going to be hard to swallow this victory Harper. Even though you won, you lost. You're party knows it, the electorate knows it and even you're mutual fund mother knows it. You have the right of center vote all to yourself and you have three left of center parties splitting the vote and you can only get 32%-35% of the popular vote. That is truly pathetic Mr. Prime Minister. I guess it's better to be luckiest candidate in Canadian history than the best one. The good news, at least you'll have another couple of years to spend our money like a drunken NDP sailor. But you're running on borrowed time.Tick tock, tick tock, the bell tolls for thee.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by flamey_mcflame

Well,

yadda, yadda, yadda.....something, something something.....

Even on the internet...pure and unadulterated bitterness is hilarious.

[Cheese]

So Dion is a trainwreck and everyone hates him.

Layton is an imbecile in a pathetic party.

The Green party with ole whatsername running may not get a seat.

Sounds like a slam dunk majority for the Conservatives!



Thankfully the vast majority of Canadians dont belive in right wing politicking!

[pepper24]

I don't live in Calgary West but I wouldn't vote for Rob Anders if I lived there.

[automaton 3]

[quote=flamey_mcflame;1471317]How about 18 billion to play cops and robbers in Afghanistan?? Hey, the Soviets couldn't defeat the Afghans, but our super powerful Canadian army will bring order to that country. And after all, all Afghans are the same, they have no tribal differences that have lasted many centuries. You'd better get our troops and my tax money out by 2011. Geez, 18 billion to play war games. What an utter waste.
[quote]

Um, you do realize the following:

1. Canada is in Afghanistan because Article 5 of the NATO treaty was invoked post 9/11

2. The Liberals under Chretien were the govering party whom first committed troops to the mission

3. The Afghan mission was extended until 2011 by a 198-77 vote in Parliment based upon the recommendations contained in the Manley report (hint: he's a Liberal)

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Cheese

So Dion is a trainwreck and everyone hates him.

Layton is an imbecile in a pathetic party.

The Green party with ole whatsername running may not get a seat.

Sounds like a slam dunk majority for the Conservatives!



Thankfully the vast majority of Canadians dont belive in right wing politicking!

VAST majority dont beleive in any one of them...

Thankfully Canadians dont believe in left-wing politicking either.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Thankfully the vast majority of Canadians dont belive in right wing politicking!

Left wing corruption and slander isn't selling so well either these days.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

3. The Afghan mission was extended until 2011 by a 198-77 vote in Parliment based upon the recommendations contained in the Manley report (hint: he's a Liberal)

Hint #2: 198 yea votes > the number of seats the Conservatives hold.

I wonder where Flamey thinks the othe yea's came from?

[Azure]

I want Dion to lose badly just so the Liberals pick a different leader.

A strong opposition party that ISN'T the NDP is a good thing.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by transplant99

VAST majority dont beleive in any one of them...

Thankfully Canadians dont believe in left-wing politicking either.

Your absolutely right...the NDP will never form a government.

MOST Canadians are centrist, and thats the reason the Cons wont get the majority until they move their platform slightly more to the middle. That is also the reason why the Liberals wont take away the Minority or form their own government, they have moved to far to the left. Once they figure that out again and move back to centre, the Cons will be an Alberta Party once again.