10-08-2008, 05:15 PM
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#161
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Why did you show him your ID?
He isnt a cop, he isnt even a mall security guard, he is a bylaw officer.
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True that. I am unsure of the rights that bylaw officers have if they catch you doing something "illegal"...
To Rouge...
I understand the point of the law, I am just saying that people take it way too overboard. If the guy was doing nothing wrong other than allowing his dog on the baseball field, and the dog appeared to be well-behaved, and the the owner can prove he has the ability to pick up after his dog (say, those little baggies), then I disagree with a ticket being given. Seems like a cash grab, or a ###### of a bylaw officer.
I understand WHY the law is set up, but IMO it should only be applied to a dog who is not well-behaved, or an owner who is not responsible.
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10-08-2008, 05:17 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 30 minutes from the Red Mile
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Originally Posted by Salt Water Cowboy #10
incinerator, what would you say if somebody got a ticket for indecent exposure after a Flames playoff win? Throw her in the slammer!?
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Nevermind the fact that I'm not a cop...even if I was, I will not be able to formulate a response to your question without pics of said offender, and if she came & whined on CP, she would likely be asked for pics too before the inevitable judgement call by our membership
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10-08-2008, 05:21 PM
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#163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 30 minutes from the Red Mile
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Originally Posted by REDVAN
True that. I am unsure of the rights that bylaw officers have if they catch you doing something "illegal"...
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By-law officers are Special Constables which falls under the definition of a Peace Officer, their authority lies in what they are specifically appointed for, so you do have to comply if they are enforcing the by-laws under their jurisdiction. (ie. An Animal By-law constable can't give you a Parking ticket and vice versa.)
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10-08-2008, 05:42 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: At the Gates of Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
Ya, your country is on thin ice with me lately, I'm usually a huge US defender but with this whole mortgage mess, the US can go sit in the Time-out corner for a couple weeks as far as I'm concerned.
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To that end I've fallen asleep at Shea Stadium (twice)(no I wasnt drunk like the guy in the youtube video) and at whatever they call the Marlins stadium 1 out of 1. At hockey/ NEVER  What that means I dont know.
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10-08-2008, 05:47 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Bylaw officers are typically ######bags..
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In their defence, if they don't enforce bylaws, folks bitch big time...'cause there is dog crap laying around. Before someone says it, maybe this dog won't do it or maybe the owner will pick it up - that's not the point. I'm in muni government and I hear it from people.
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10-08-2008, 08:56 PM
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#166
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bandit
I live in the NW, Cambrian Heights. We have a lot of green space here, but not a lot of options for off leash. Postage stamp was a bit of an exaggeration, but the park I speak of is by Queen's Park cemetary, and it is quite crowded. We tried Nose Hill, but had an incident with a less than friendly dog and it's owner, so we didn't go back. I won't let him run if I see anyone in the park by our community hall, but I do think with all the available green space in our neck of the woods, they could create more dog areas. I also believe that if you are caught, a first time warning should be given, x2 should be a fine.
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Cambrian Heights is one of the few communities that has more than one off leash area.
http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server....eash+Areas.htm
I go to the one by the cemetary on a daily basis, at different times of day. Sometimes it is dead, other times as many as 25-30 dogs there. It is not large in the sense that you can go for a 45 minute walk through the park. (not without covering the same ground)
But spend 45 minutes of your dog playing fetch or with other dogs will give him plenty of excercise; which what it is all about.
I understand the reasoning behind the on-leash bylaw, but here is my rant about off-leash areas.
I would never dream of taking our dog to a playground with small kids. Yet people bring their small kids to off-leash dog areas to run free; then freak out when junior gets knocked over by two dogs playing with one another.
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10-09-2008, 12:29 PM
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#167
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by First Lady
I go to the one by the cemetary on a daily basis, at different times of day. Sometimes it is dead
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10-09-2008, 12:37 PM
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#168
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Gozer
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10-09-2008, 12:42 PM
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#169
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by First Lady
Cambrian Heights is one of the few communities that has more than one off leash area.
http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server....eash+Areas.htm
I go to the one by the cemetary on a daily basis, at different times of day. Sometimes it is dead, other times as many as 25-30 dogs there. It is not large in the sense that you can go for a 45 minute walk through the park. (not without covering the same ground)
But spend 45 minutes of your dog playing fetch or with other dogs will give him plenty of excercise; which what it is all about.
I understand the reasoning behind the on-leash bylaw, but here is my rant about off-leash areas.
I would never dream of taking our dog to a playground with small kids. Yet people bring their small kids to off-leash dog areas to run free; then freak out when junior gets knocked over by two dogs playing with one another.
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I usually try to take my dog there early afternoon, I'm off work by 4 and it takes me 10 minutes to get home, so I find this to be the ideal time. After 6 most days is when it's the most crowded. I agree with you about the kid thing, especially when some kids are terrified at the mere sight of a dog.
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10-09-2008, 12:52 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by First Lady
I would never dream of taking our dog to a playground with small kids. Yet people bring their small kids to off-leash dog areas to run free; then freak out when junior gets knocked over by two dogs playing with one another.
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I had someone pull this BS on me at the Southland Park years ago. I politely told her to consider putting her kids on a leash and training them better.
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10-09-2008, 12:53 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
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People and their dogs...ugh...
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10-09-2008, 01:23 PM
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#172
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bandit
I usually try to take my dog there early afternoon, I'm off work by 4 and it takes me 10 minutes to get home, so I find this to be the ideal time. After 6 most days is when it's the most crowded. I agree with you about the kid thing, especially when some kids are terrified at the mere sight of a dog.
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You really have to be aware of what is happening when it is busy.
My husband was knocked down two nights in a row. The first time by a husky going full bore across the field. The next by our own Stewie (who is now 50+ lbs.) while he was wrestling with another good size dog.
Luckily he was only a bit winded and slightly embarassed. There was a lady about 2 or 3 weeks ago; who actually broke her leg when a similiar collision occurred.
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10-09-2008, 01:54 PM
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#173
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary
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I honestly don't understand why people would take kids to a dog park either. My lab is 95 lbs and weighs the same or more than a child and there are lots of dogs there and he likes to have a good time with them.
Luckily he hasn't knocked anyone over yet, it was me that did the damage, I was trying to throw a tennis ball with that chuck-it thingy and for some reason i threw it side arm and well it hit a lady. I felt so bad.
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10-09-2008, 02:09 PM
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#174
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss
I honestly don't understand why people would take kids to a dog park either. My lab is 95 lbs and weighs the same or more than a child and there are lots of dogs there and he likes to have a good time with them.
Luckily he hasn't knocked anyone over yet, it was me that did the damage, I was trying to throw a tennis ball with that chuck-it thingy and for some reason i threw it side arm and well it hit a lady. I felt so bad.
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I get very nervous when there are small children around. Stewie looks small (under a foot tall) but he is solid. He is also still a pup and in training. Generally he is pretty good about not jumping up on adults (because we have worked on that); but still does it with kids.
He almost seems drawn to them. He loves people as much as he does dogs; so he approaches everyone. And if a kid runs.... he just thinks it is a game and runs after them.
Then I feel bad; because I am suppose to be the one with my dog under control......
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10-09-2008, 02:13 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Of course theres the kids who can handle it!
I remember one time I was walking my dog in the off-leash and observed a young family (two kids, perhaps eight and five, both boys with their parents) with their dog who was I'd say about a 85 lbs Lab of some kind.
So the dog, while barreling around plows into the eight year old and totally sends him head over heels. But rather than breakdown and cry, the kid jumps up, slaps a half-nelson on the dog, flips him on his back, grabs him by the scruff and yells "NO!"
This is exactly the right thing to do, the dog goes limp understanding now the hiearchy of the "pack", and papa looked about as proud as a papa could be.
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10-09-2008, 08:16 PM
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#176
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by fotze
No, throw the salammer in her.
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Way late but this is the Fotze I love.
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10-09-2008, 08:22 PM
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#177
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mykalberta
Why did you show him your ID?
He isnt a cop, he isnt even a mall security guard, he is a bylaw officer.
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Actually he is a peace officer. If you don't obey he calls his friends the CPS. They take this seriously. Try telling a transit guy or a bylaw officer to go f themselves. I hope you like the pepper on your eggs. (Perhaps too vague a reference to Chretien and the pepper spray incident in BC. Actually, Myk probably caught it!)
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10-09-2008, 09:17 PM
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#178
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: beautiful calgary alberta
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could have warned u..but warnings dont work either..still didnt have to fine you a hundred bucks..ten bucks maybe
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