Why does everyone hate Rob Anders

[Agamemnon]

Rob Anders is also excellent at 'politicking' within the party, especially amongst its supporters. He's not a 'public' type of politician, he's the smarmy, sneaky, underhanded kind (so, the 'good' kind of politician).

I sat beside him at several of his Calgary West nomination meetings, and he basically comes off as an *******.

The Mandela thing is unforgiveable. I'd love to start a new thread on the merits of Mandela = Terrorist.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by moon@Apr 23 2005, 09:16 PM
I don't think Mandela is a terrorist just don't see why he should be an honourary citizen of Canada.

I have no problem with them voicing their opinion. the way they did it comes off as very whinny in my opinion.

Of course I would never vote for the Liberals. Well unless they smarten up and totally change their platform.

Well, Anders belives that _because_ Mandela 'is' a terrorist, that disqualified him from citizenship, when all other MP's were in favour.

For what reason do you disqualify him from honourary citizenship, when every MP except Anders thought it a decent idea?

[Ozy_Flame]

Well after reading that website, and visiting his own homepage, I can honestly say I support Rob Anders now more than ever. While I don't necessarily agree with him on the Mandella issue, I do support some of his views, including the traditional definition of marriage and the need to increase support for our national military. Besides, I find outspoken and aggressive MP's such as Anders to be far more interesting than most of those other mundane politicians who litter the House.

[Sammie]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Apr 23 2005, 11:50 AM
Simple question, there seems to be a lot of dislike for the guy, but I was wondering why this was the case.

Thanks.

If everyone hated Rob Anders, he wouldn't keep getting re-elected. There are a few loud-mouthed objectors with their own agendas who's have been hurt because they're not getting their way in the riding at this time.

[kermitology]

Originally posted by Sammie+Apr 24 2005, 01:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sammie @ Apr 24 2005, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mean Mr. Mustard@Apr 23 2005, 11:50 AM
Simple question, there seems to be a lot of dislike for the guy, but I was wondering why this was the case.

Thanks.

If everyone hated Rob Anders, he wouldn't keep getting re-elected. There are a few loud-mouthed objectors with their own agendas who's have been hurt because they're not getting their way in the riding at this time. [/b][/quote]
Hardly.. He's conservative running in Alberta.. That's why he gets re-elected

[Hakan]

You could run a snow shovel as a conservative candidate in Alberta and it would get elected.

[Agamemnon]

Man, the worst part is where Mandela calls Rob Anders to try and work things out, and Rob won't take the call.

Vetoing the citizenship is one thing, but refusing to even talk to Mandela? What's the deal? How could that hurt?

Maybe Rob doesn't want to talk to a Terrorist? Bush has...

[Sammie]

Originally posted by kermitology+Apr 24 2005, 01:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kermitology @ Apr 24 2005, 01:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If everyone hated Rob Anders, he wouldn't keep getting re-elected. There are a few loud-mouthed objectors with their own agendas who's have been hurt because they're not getting their way in the riding at this time.

Hardly.. He's conservative running in Alberta.. That's why he gets re-elected[/b][/quote]
Well, that ought to tell you that the majority of people in his riding, and in Alberta, lean toward the Conservative ideology which means Anders is representing his constituency very well. What's the problem here?

Now, if this were the Liberal Party, Mr. Dithers would be flying his own "Yes!" man into the riding at this very moment because actually representing the constituents of the riding very much gets in the way of all those money laundering projects the Liberals have perfected over the years.

[kermitology]

A party representative does not necessarially represent the constituency.. Generally I find that would require that you actually do work..

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Sammie@Apr 24 2005, 02:05 PM
Well, that ought to tell you that the majority of people in his riding, and in Alberta, lean toward the Conservative ideology which means Anders is representing his constituency very well. What's the problem here?

Well if you look around, it doesn't look like he's representing them at all. It appears to me his biggest focus is on battling communism, which I don't think is really that much of a problem in western Calgary. Of course I live on the other side of Macleod Trail and can't be entirely sure.

[Sammie]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Apr 24 2005, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Apr 24 2005, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Sammie@Apr 24 2005, 02:05 PM
Well, that ought to tell you that the majority of people in his riding, and in Alberta, lean toward the Conservative ideology which means Anders is representing his constituency very well. What's the problem here?

Well if you look around, it doesn't look like he's representing them at all. It appears to me his biggest focus is on battling communism, which I don't think is really that much of a problem in western Calgary. Of course I live on the other side of Macleod Trail and can't be entirely sure.[/b][/quote]
Okay. tell me what he should be doing differently so that he WILL be representing the foolish, stupid people who so blindly and ignorantly keep sending him back?

[peter12]

Originally posted by Sammie+Apr 24 2005, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sammie @ Apr 24 2005, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Well if you look around, it doesn't look like he's representing them at all. It appears to me his biggest focus is on battling communism, which I don't think is really that much of a problem in western Calgary. Of course I live on the other side of Macleod Trail and can't be entirely sure.

Okay. tell me what he should be doing differently so that he WILL be representing the foolish, stupid people who so blindly and ignorantly keep sending him back? [/b][/quote]
I hope you realize that it is a Canadian political norm to vote for the party over the candidate.

As someone else said, you could run my dog as Conservative candidate in Calgary and she would win based on the fact she is running for the Conservative Party.

It has absolutely nothing to do with people's intelligence.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Sammie+Apr 24 2005, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sammie @ Apr 24 2005, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Well if you look around, it doesn't look like he's representing them at all. It appears to me his biggest focus is on battling communism, which I don't think is really that much of a problem in western Calgary. Of course I live on the other side of Macleod Trail and can't be entirely sure.

Okay. tell me what he should be doing differently so that he WILL be representing the foolish, stupid people who so blindly and ignorantly keep sending him back? [/b][/quote]
Gee I don't know Sammie. Maybe he should do something about the issues that affect the people in his riding?

I actually agree with his politics on the whole Tibet thing, but I know I'd rather have my MP actually do something about goings-on in my riding. That's just me though. If you'd rather vote for a guy who appears to spend the bulk of his time on irrelevant issues and sits in the back saying very little (due to his own party's muzzle) then he's the man for you.

[kn]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Apr 24 2005, 02:39 PM
I actually agree with his politics on the whole Tibet thing, but I know I'd rather have my MP actually do something about goings-on in my riding.

That's really better left up to municipal and provincial politics, unless you have a specific issue that falls within federal jurisdiction such as immigration. If Anders has refused to help people in those situations, then he deserves any and all flack. Otherwise, he's being elected simply because he was in the right place at the right time. There were far more qualified people running for the Reform nomination in Calgary West but he stacked the place by selling memberships, including several young people, and they simply voted for him without even listening to what the other candidates were offering. He's good on the ground but isn't much of an idea or policy guy.

[Sammie]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Apr 24 2005, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Apr 24 2005, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Okay. tell me what he should be doing differently so that he WILL be representing the foolish, stupid people who so blindly and ignorantly keep sending him back?

Gee I don't know Sammie. Maybe he should do something about the issues that affect the people in his riding?

I actually agree with his politics on the whole Tibet thing, but I know I'd rather have my MP actually do something about goings-on in my riding. That's just me though. If you'd rather vote for a guy who appears to spend the bulk of his time on irrelevant issues and sits in the back saying very little (due to his own party's muzzle) then he's the man for you.[/b][/quote]
You guys aren't being very specific. "Appears to spend the bulk of his time on irrelevant issues", please expand on this accusation. What kind of doing "something about goings-on" in your riding would meet your approval?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Sammie+Apr 24 2005, 02:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sammie @ Apr 24 2005, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Gee I don't know Sammie. Maybe he should do something about the issues that affect the people in his riding?

I actually agree with his politics on the whole Tibet thing, but I know I'd rather have my MP actually do something about goings-on in my riding. That's just me though. If you'd rather vote for a guy who appears to spend the bulk of his time on irrelevant issues and sits in the back saying very little (due to his own party's muzzle) then he's the man for you.

You guys aren't being very specific. "Appears to spend the bulk of his time on irrelevant issues" [/b][/quote]
Did you check out his website Sammie? It's all there, as plain as day. Anti-communism rallies and Tibet get far more play than Canada, where he and his constituents actually live.

Maybe he should specifically be concentrating on Canada?

[kermitology]

Yes the effects of Communism on society is something that is such a concern these days.. I mean the Cold War is still strong as ever right? I'm so happy that my MP is so concerned with dead issues!!

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally posted by Incinerator@Apr 24 2005, 11:17 AM
You all think Rob Anders is bad, I wonder if any of you remember Ezra Levant, now THAT is one nutjob...

Ezra is still kicking around and making an ass of himself. He does this sound off thing on Global Sundays and often writes entries in the Sun. I like reading them for a good laugh during a boring day at work.

[moon]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Apr 24 2005, 12:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Apr 24 2005, 12:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Apr 23 2005, 09:16 PM
I don't think Mandela is a terrorist just don't see why he should be an honourary citizen of Canada.

I have no problem with them voicing their opinion. the way they did it comes off as very whinny in my opinion.

Of course I would never vote for the Liberals. Well unless they smarten up and totally change their platform.

Well, Anders belives that _because_ Mandela 'is' a terrorist, that disqualified him from citizenship, when all other MP's were in favour.

For what reason do you disqualify him from honourary citizenship, when every MP except Anders thought it a decent idea? [/b][/quote]
I think that he has done some great things for blacks in his country. But that is in South Africa. Did it really improve life in Canada?

I think that there are lots of people in the world and they get recognized for it in many places. I don't think he has done anything more than many others to earn the honourary citizenship.

If canada wants to say good work work or whaqt not sure, but we don't need to give him the citizenship.

[peter12]

Originally posted by moon+Apr 25 2005, 10:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (moon @ Apr 25 2005, 10:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Well, Anders belives that _because_ Mandela 'is' a terrorist, that disqualified him from citizenship, when all other MP's were in favour.

For what reason do you disqualify him from honourary citizenship, when every MP except Anders thought it a decent idea?

I think that he has done some great things for blacks in his country. But that is in South Africa. Did it really improve life in Canada?

I think that there are lots of people in the world and they get recognized for it in many places. I don't think he has done anything more than many others to earn the honourary citizenship.

If canada wants to say good work work or whaqt not sure, but we don't need to give him the citizenship. [/b][/quote]
But who does it hurt if we do? All the Boer white racists that are still hanging around?