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Old 09-25-2008, 03:52 PM   #21
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Moe Szyslak: Immigants! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them...
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:00 PM   #22
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The best way to try and help immigrants become part of stable communities is to marginalize them and make them feel even more out of place. That should help them fit in.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:02 PM   #23
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apparently my grandparents actually owned a dog named n*****. My mom was completely unaware that it was a slur until she moved off the farm.



Theres a black lab on Pink Floyd's move the Wall thats named the same thing..
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:06 PM   #24
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And people wonder why Calgary has a "redneck" label...
cause they haven't been to calgary?
or cause of one person..?
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #25
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And people wonder why Calgary has a "redneck" label...
No they dont...they KNOW why Cowtown is redneck!
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:14 PM   #26
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Theres a black lab on Pink Floyd's move the Wall thats named the same thing..
More accurately, there's a black lab in the movie The Dam Busters (parts of which appear on a television screen in The Wall) with that name.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:16 PM   #27
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More accurately, there's a black lab in the movie The Dam Busters (parts of which appear on a television screen in The Wall) with that name.

Thats where its from.. I figured it was a popular movie but did know what it was called.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:20 PM   #28
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http://www.ffwdweekly.com/article/ne...nts-on-immigr/

No stats for you, but a quote from a former cop:

"Cam Stewart, a former Calgary cop who now runs an intercultural consulting company, says the majority of criminals in Calgary are “mainstream” Caucasian Canadians. He suggests the notion that immigrants are responsible for crime comes from fear, not facts. “That’s why we’re getting that rise of hate groups in our city and in our province,” says Stewart, who used to work in the CPS diversity resources unit. “Because people are hearing this at the dinner table. They’re hearing this in the coffee shops or in the bars, and they’re saying, ‘Well, we’ve got to stand up for our rights’ and all that stuff.”
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:29 PM   #29
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No stats for you, but a quote from a former cop:

"Cam Stewart, a former Calgary cop who now runs an intercultural consulting company, says the majority of criminals in Calgary are “mainstream” Caucasian Canadians. He suggests the notion that immigrants are responsible for crime comes from fear, not facts. “That’s why we’re getting that rise of hate groups in our city and in our province,” says Stewart, who used to work in the CPS diversity resources unit. “Because people are hearing this at the dinner table. They’re hearing this in the coffee shops or in the bars, and they’re saying, ‘Well, we’ve got to stand up for our rights’ and all that stuff.”
Interesting quote.

But, he doesnt specify what type of criminal he is talking about.

Sure, the mainstream Caucasian is a criminal - they are all speeding down Deerfoot at lightning speeds. Or, maybe they are all ripping MP3's.

But, can his statement be extended to violent crimes? Is it true that the majority of gang members are Caucasian? I would doubt it.

The gang related crimes and most violent crimes are the ones that everyone is truly worried about, right?
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:34 PM   #30
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Didn't Richardson start AIDS?
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:56 PM   #31
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cause they haven't been to calgary?
or cause of one person..?
I think it's because there's lots of rednecks
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:09 PM   #32
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I hadn't read that he said it to FFWD magazine, you'd think he would have his muzzle on pretty tight talking to them. That publication is left of Karl Marx.
I don't know about most but I find them be pretty fair. At least it's an alternative to the right winged publications like the Herald and the Sun.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:07 PM   #33
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Funny.... all the arrest reports I read lately seem to be of white dudes.

After that Brazilian got shot in Chinatown, how many people just assumed it was an Asian that pulled the trigger? Count me on the list that was surprised when it was some white boy they arrested.

And then this latest arrest a few weeks back:

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...0-d657e8171b69

Nicholson, Collingwood, Pilon. Ah... he must be of the Saigon Collingwoodses...

Don't the Biker Gangs really control the drug trade anyways? All those damn immigrant bikers on them Harleys....

Crime is an equal opportunity employer...yes Asians are a part of that scene. Lots of white folk in it too, along with everyone else. It's rather shortsighted to just say it's immigrants that are committing these crimes. I don't think Richardson meant to say it's strictly immigrants that are committing ALL the crimes. He's a veteran politician, he should know better. But his choice of words leave that possibility open to interpretation which is what he's getting beat up for now.

The Herald forums really need some better moderation, the yahoo/crotchety old bugger ratio there really makes that paper and Calgarians look slightly right of Alabama.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:17 PM   #34
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Pergaps it's gang names like "fresh off the boat" that are giving that impression? I don't know about you all, but to me that sounds like a gang of immigrants... However, it's not the only hang in town, that's for sure. We also have the "fresh off the boat killers" gang.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:34 PM   #35
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"Cam Stewart, a former Calgary cop who now runs an intercultural consulting company, says the majority of criminals in Calgary are “mainstream” Caucasian Canadians. He suggests the notion that immigrants are responsible for crime comes from fear, not facts.

Always bothers me how people on both sides of the argument put "caucasian" and "immigrant" as opposites.
How hard is it to understand that someone can be both or neither?
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:43 PM   #36
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Pergaps it's gang names like "fresh off the boat" that are giving that impression? I don't know about you all, but to me that sounds like a gang of immigrants... However, it's not the only hang in town, that's for sure. We also have the "fresh off the boat killers" gang.
Ya and we also have the "Hell's Angels," "King's Crew," "The Rebels," and "Grim Reapers" gangs. Those dang immigrants are everywhere.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:05 AM   #37
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Everyone knows that every single problem in today's society is caused by immigrants.

Native People are probably laughing their asses off right now.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:13 AM   #38
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This guy will probably win his riding by a landslide as well. ######bag.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:16 AM   #39
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Always bothers me how people on both sides of the argument put "caucasian" and "immigrant" as opposites.
How hard is it to understand that someone can be both or neither?
I spent a summer working in a metal fabrication shop and there was a guy from Jamaica working there. When he went back to work before the bell rang at lunch all the "real Canadians" took a turn at hacking on the immigrant.

"Blimey, 'oo the 'ell does that guy think he is? 'E should go back to where he came from".

"Mama mia, lunch ain't even ovah yet, and he's trying to make us look bad-uh. He'sa probbly a-stealing my tools!"
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