Why does everyone hate Rob Anders

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Simple question, there seems to be a lot of dislike for the guy, but I was wondering why this was the case.

Thanks.

[Clarkey]

Well, keep in mind that the sample of users on this board does not represent the Calgary population as a whole very well at all. Rob Anders was voted in with a resounding majority in his consituency.

[moon]

that site is funny.

It actually made me now support Anders more than before. If for nothing else than to p*ss of the idiots who created that site.

Go anders Go!!

[CaptainCrunch]

Its funny that people are judging the Conservatives on the basis of people like Anders, and yet nobody is doing the same with the radical element of the Liberals, including Heidi Fry (I do believe) that stated that Western Canadians were racist and specifically targeted Kelowna with a cross burning comment, Parrish, not terminated by her voters but here party, and many others.

In my mind both parties have bad elements, it just seems to me that the Liberal ones are more senior, and in positions of power.

[Hakan]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Apr 23 2005, 11:51 AM
Its funny that people are judging the Conservatives on the basis of people like Anders, and yet nobody is doing the same with the radical element of the Liberals, including Heidi Fry (I do believe) that stated that Western Canadians were racist and specifically targeted Kelowna with a cross burning comment, Parrish, not terminated by her voters but here party, and many others.

In my mind both parties have bad elements, it just seems to me that the Liberal ones are more senior, and in positions of power.

...while the conservatives are more extreme and caustic.

[moon]

Originally posted by Hakan+Apr 23 2005, 12:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hakan @ Apr 23 2005, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaptainCrunch@Apr 23 2005, 11:51 AM
Its funny that people are judging the Conservatives on the basis of people like Anders, and yet nobody is doing the same with the radical element of the Liberals, including Heidi Fry (I do believe) that stated that Western Canadians were racist and specifically targeted Kelowna with a cross burning comment, Parrish, not terminated by her voters but here party, and many others.

In my mind both parties have bad elements, it just seems to me that the Liberal ones are more senior, and in positions of power.

...while the conservatives are more extreme and caustic. [/b][/quote]
More extreme and caustic in your view. In many peoples minds, myself included, there views are not extreme at all and certainly not caustic.

[Hakan]

So saying Nelson Mandela is a terrorist is not extreme and caustic in your view?

If so, your view, wont be paid any attention to by myself.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally posted by moon@Apr 23 2005, 11:21 AM
that site is funny.

It actually made me now support Anders more than before. If for nothing else than to p*ss of the idiots who created that site.

Go anders Go!!

Why is it so funny?
What part made you support Anders even more?
Was it the part where he called Nelson Mandela a "communist and a terrorist"
or the part of the site where they show many different media views about how bad Anders is, to show that this is not simply the opinion of the guys who made the site.

You would vote a radical idiot into government, just to p*ss off a couple college students?

Its funny that people are judging the Conservatives on the basis of people like Anders, and yet nobody is doing the same with the radical element of the Liberals, including Heidi Fry (I do believe) that stated that Western Canadians were racist and specifically targeted Kelowna with a cross burning comment, Parrish, not terminated by her voters but here party, and many others.

In my mind both parties have bad elements, it just seems to me that the Liberal ones are more senior, and in positions of power.

People should judge all bad MP's. You stated yourself that Parish got booted after her stupid comments. Why didn't Anders?

Anyway, the post asked why Anders is bad. The judgment should be of him, not the CPC or liberals. There's already about 6 threads for that.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by Hakan@Apr 23 2005, 12:14 PM
So saying Nelson Mandela is a terrorist is not extreme and caustic in your view?

If so, your view, wont be paid any attention to by myself.

Well good to know that some people don't know what the African National Congress was. Here is a quote from Mr. Mandella, "I do not deny that I planned sabotage. I planned it as a result of a calm and sober assessment of the political situation."

in 1963 Mandela headed Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) or Spear of the Nation -- continued waging terrorist attacks with arson, political murder and robberies.

To be honest with you, Mandella while he was good man and did a lot of good in his life at the same time to not realize these facts would be ignorant.

"It was always my view that the armed liberation struggle is based on and grows out of mass political struggle fought by the oppressed." He called for the total defeat of "the white minority."

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by moon@Apr 23 2005, 12:21 PM
It actually made me now support Anders more than before. If for nothing else than to p*ss of the idiots who created that site.

That's as good a reason as any, because Anders himself hasn't done anything to warrant a vote, let alone a seat.

[Hakan]

So are you saying that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist? What is your point here?

(btw, I have studied South Africa extensively and I realize the facts)

[moon]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Apr 23 2005, 12:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Apr 23 2005, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Apr 23 2005, 12:21 PM
It actually made me now support Anders more than before. If for nothing else than to p*ss of the idiots who created that site.

That's as good a reason as any, because Anders himself hasn't done anything to warrant a vote, let alone a seat. [/b][/quote]
Neither, in my opinion have any of the other candidates in the riding.

[Claeren]

Anders has ridden general Alberta support for the Alliance to get his seat term after term, not ANY personal charisma or ability. There is a VERY specific reason why after 3 (?) terms in office the guy is still not intrusted wth anything and frankly never will be. He is a liability as much as he is an idiot. He does nothing for our riding, his own party, and certainly nothing for this country...

I remember about a 2-3 years ago everyone in our riding got a flier from him. The point of the flier was that 'EVEN Jews and Muslims should side with Christians like real conservatives because the evil gay lobby was trying to make the bible, scriptures, and koran illegal!!!! Further, that people HAVE to be able to hate gays because they are evil, because they are evil and have to be hated, and that new anti-hate legislation would mean that we all would have to stop hating gays publically and that religion would become illegal (more illegal i guess?) because we all know religions HAVE to be able to freely hate people!!'


THAT is a good use of tax payer money!

Conservatives are just as bad as liberals, they just have different pockets to fill and different stupid agenda's to persue.

I REALLY hate to summarize it so but really it comes down to whether you want pro-American conservative/faux-christian values with American and western business men getting the money, or whether you want pro-'Canadian' liberal/social values with French business men getting the money....


Claeren.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by moon+Apr 23 2005, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (moon @ Apr 23 2005, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

That's as good a reason as any, because Anders himself hasn't done anything to warrant a vote, let alone a seat.

Neither, in my opinion have any of the other candidates in the riding. [/b][/quote]
Fair enough.

Though if I were in your shoes I'd be pulling (maybe even praying for, considering the circumstances) for a new candidate instead of supporting this jackass.

[moon]

Originally posted by Winsor_Pilates+Apr 23 2005, 12:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Winsor_Pilates @ Apr 23 2005, 12:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Apr 23 2005, 11:21 AM
that site is funny.

It actually made me now support Anders more than before.# If for nothing else than to p*ss of the idiots who created that site.#

Go anders Go!!

Why is it so funny?
What part made you support Anders even more?
Was it the part where he called Nelson Mandela a "communist and a terrorist"
or the part of the site where they show many different media views about how bad Anders is, to show that this is not simply the opinion of the guys who made the site.

You would vote a radical idiot into government, just to p*ss off a couple college students?

Its funny that people are judging the Conservatives on the basis of people like Anders, and yet nobody is doing the same with the radical element of the Liberals, including Heidi Fry (I do believe) that stated that Western Canadians were racist and specifically targeted Kelowna with a cross burning comment, Parrish, not terminated by her voters but here party, and many others.

In my mind both parties have bad elements, it just seems to me that the Liberal ones are more senior, and in positions of power.

People should judge all bad MP's. You stated yourself that Parish got booted after her stupid comments. Why didn't Anders?

Anyway, the post asked why Anders is bad. The judgment should be of him, not the CPC or liberals. There's already about 6 threads for that. [/b][/quote]
More about the part where they spend the whole time whinning. And then act like most people want him out. He was voted in democratically by the constituents of his riding. He didn't cheat, he didn't get appointed, he was elected.

and I really don't care what the media say about him. I don't really like the guy necessarily but after seeing whinny webstes like that it makes me glad that he is in p*ssing those people off.

And really I have no real problem with what he said about Mandella. If thats what he thought then go ahead. If he said because of pettiness hell go ahead again.

I don't think that Mandella should have been made a honorary citizen, so really don't have that much of a problem with the tone of what he said.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally posted by moon@Apr 23 2005, 01:20 PM
More about the part where they spend the whole time whinning. And then act like most people want him out. He was voted in democratically by the constituents of his riding. He didn't cheat, he didn't get appointed, he was elected.

and I really don't care what the media say about him. I don't really like the guy necessarily but after seeing whinny webstes like that it makes me glad that he is in p*ssing those people off.

And really I have no real problem with what he said about Mandella. If thats what he thought then go ahead. If he said because of pettiness hell go ahead again.

I don't think that Mandella should have been made a honorary citizen, so really don't have that much of a problem with the tone of what he said.

I agree that he was voted in by his riding, and does represent the majority of them. But the people who made that website, also are in his riding. It's not whinning to voice opposition to someone who is governing over you, it's altually a democratic right and responsability. Should they just shut up, and except it?
That's like calling all Canadians who are upset about the sponsership scandel whinny. Would you vote liberal just to p*ss off these people?
Anders job isn't to p*ss off members of his own riding. His job is to hear their concerns and try to represent as many of them as he can without alienating anyone.
As for the Mandella part. If your views are as extreme as Anders, I'm not even gonna bother arguing.

[moon]

Originally posted by Winsor_Pilates+Apr 23 2005, 02:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Winsor_Pilates @ Apr 23 2005, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Apr 23 2005, 01:20 PM
More about the part where they spend the whole time whinning.# And then act like most people want him out.# He was voted in democratically by the constituents of his riding.# He didn't cheat, he didn't get appointed, he was elected.

and I really don't care what the media say about him.# I don't really like the guy necessarily but after seeing whinny webstes like that it makes me glad that he is in p*ssing those people off.

And really I have no real problem with what he said about Mandella.# If thats what he thought then go ahead.# If he said because of pettiness hell go ahead again.

I don't think that Mandella should have been made a honorary citizen, so really don't have that much of a problem with the tone of what he said.

I agree that he was voted in by his riding, and does represent the majority of them. But the people who made that website, also are in his riding. It's not whinning to voice opposition to someone who is governing over you, it's altually a democratic right and responsability. Should they just shut up, and except it?
That's like calling all Canadians who are upset about the sponsership scandel whinny. Would you vote liberal just to p*ss off these people?
Anders job isn't to p*ss off members of his own riding. His job is to hear their concerns and try to represent as many of them as he can without alienating anyone.
As for the Mandella part. If your views are as extreme as Anders, I'm not even gonna bother arguing. [/b][/quote]
I don't think Mandela is a terrorist just don't see why he should be an honourary citizen of Canada.

I have no problem with them voicing their opinion. the way they did it comes off as very whinny in my opinion.

Of course I would never vote for the Liberals. Well unless they smarten up and totally change their platform.

[kn]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Apr 23 2005, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Apr 23 2005, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Neither, in my opinion have any of the other candidates in the riding.

Fair enough.

Though if I were in your shoes I'd be pulling (maybe even praying for, considering the circumstances) for a new candidate instead of supporting this jackass. [/b][/quote]
Knowing that he'd win (and will win again), I just throw my vote to the Green Party. I didn't like the fact that they were shut out of the debate despite running candidates in all 301 ridings.

[kermitology]

The man is elected into my riding every time because he's not the evil Liberal candidate, it has no bearing on who he is or what he does for the consituency, it's because he's affiliated with the Conservatives.

He's an ass, a moron, and he does nothing to represent the people in his riding. I'm a very Conservative voter, but I refuse to tow the party line and support that asshat.

[Incinerator]

You all think Rob Anders is bad, I wonder if any of you remember Ezra Levant, now THAT is one nutjob...