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Sainters7 · 09-24-2008, 07:57 AM

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transplant99 · 09-24-2008, 08:14 AM

ESPN did a piece on this a month ago and it was brutal then as it is brutal now.

Just stupidity from the older players and the coaches.

Table 5 · 09-24-2008, 12:52 PM

wow, what is with these all the jockohomos and their ######ed rituals? why does it always involve some sort of anal pounding?

habernac · 09-24-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

wow, what is with these all the jockohomos and their ######ed rituals? why does it always involve some sort of anal pounding?

or shaving or some other such humiliation? I had some idiot threaten me with that on a hockey team years ago. I laughed and told him to get lost. He figured I meant business when I hit him with my hockey stick. Hazing and anyone involved with it is garbage.

missdpuck · 09-24-2008, 01:27 PM

This reminds me of "Our Guys" by Brenard Lefkowitz. It's about how Glen Ridge NJ covered for a bunch of high school jocks who got their kicks by raping a ######ed girl and taping it. Ha! Why should something like that keep the dear boys out of Harvard? Well, Glen Ridge is Tom Cruise's hometown. Wonder how many of these things we don't hear about. Horrendous.

OzSome · 09-24-2008, 02:14 PM

Unbelievable!! What bugs me the most are the coaches who were trusted by the parents did not do anything to stop this ritual. Makes me wonder if my nephews ever start join sports team in high school, should we feel comfortable that things are okay during the season. How sad.

Locke · 09-24-2008, 02:33 PM

That is seriously messed. These are some mentally unbalanced people....

killer_carlson · 09-24-2008, 07:29 PM

I would love to be there when someone asks these perverts "When did this ever become a good idea?".

I think hazing is going to happen, whether at a training camp or at a party on the weekend. If it is going to happen, then it has to be supervised because when it isn't, it gets really bad.

Some of the most homosexual behaviour I have ever heard of happened in locker rooms, which of course are the "last place you'd ever find a gay guy". Yeah right. When it isn't supervised, it gets out of control. It becomes "who can out do the year before" kind of crap. It has no place in schools.

If you took the repressed homosexual tendencies and the alcohol abuse out of hazing rituals, then chances are it would be a lot less than what people currently go through and it would serve the purpose that it was originally intended to address - team bonding. Good luck removing either of those things though.

Where and when it was decided that hardship should turn into humiliation - that is where the wheels fell off and the fingers need to be pointed.

killer_carlson · 09-24-2008, 07:30 PM

oh and this happened to McGill's football team a couple of years ago as well.

ricoFlame · 09-24-2008, 08:14 PM

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oh and this happened to McGill's football team a couple of years ago as well.

yeah that's right, if i remember, it was exactly the same thing. some sick stuff.

can't stand this hazing stuff. it's pointless.

flip · 09-24-2008, 08:58 PM

I've heard of some disgusting but fairly harmless stuff.

It involved marshmellows, cups and your butcheeks and it was a race. If you won you got to eat your own.

Helps build the team atmosphere and doesn't hurt or kill anyone. Not that I think it is a good idea but having played a lot of hockey I can understand some of the lighter stuff.

Table 5 · 09-25-2008, 09:43 AM

Really flip? Sticking marshmallows up your ass is considered team bonding?

I like sports and all, but if being part of a team is now contigent on one being ok with random ass-play, that's just leotarded.

Man, and they consider MY profession faggy. Never heard of a circle jerk in art school.

flip · 09-25-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Really flip? Sticking marshmallows up your ass is considered team bonding?

I like sports and all, but if being part of a team is now contigent on one being ok with random ass-play, that's just leotarded.

Man, and they consider MY profession faggy. Never heard of a circle jerk in art school.

Well lets differentiate between up your ass and picking them up by squeezing your butt cheeks.

There is a lot of stuff that male sports teams do that would be considered gay, when really I think it might just be that they're so comfortable with each other that no matter how "gay" it seems they are just bonding as males.

The bonding comes from doing something you normally wouldn't do and having everyone do it. This leads to a feeling of belonging. Once you've all embarrassed yourselves then it makes you feel closer to those that have shared your embarrassment.

Ruttiger · 09-25-2008, 02:12 PM

I'm with Table 5 and the others who condemn hazing. I've played hockey up the level of junior and have seen some relatively tame incidents of hazing take place. For the life of me I fail to see how embarrassing someone in front of all his peers makes him feel like part of the group. Even Joe Sakic spoke out against it after he was shaved as a rookie in Quebec, saying he wouldn't have any part of it in the future as a veteran.

Completely pointless, at best, and seriously damaging at worst.

edn88 · 09-25-2008, 09:12 PM

I have been involved with hockey for a very long time and I have never heard of a hazing incident that I would consider team building. All of it is demoralizing and degrading the recipient and is intened to show the rookies their place.

Better team building is based on building trust and mutual respect. Stuff like the Steve Downie crap just makes me sick.