Now here's the annoying thing. I tried to tip the young fellas at the Co-Op gas station one day because basically I wanted to and felt that IMO they deserved it. They provide me with more of a luxury (fill up and oil check in sub zero temps) than someone handing me a dinner or beer I've already paid for.
Looked sheepishly at each other then refused it saying they ran the risk of being sacked if caught accepting tips. Why is it not my perogative in this case to tip?
co-op provides the same high quality service to every customer who steps thru the doors. they dont want it to come to the point where tipping is required. If you tip the kid a few times they will start to treat you better than other customers, pretty soon the customers who dont tip are treated like crap. They have to draw the line somewhere to ensure equal great service for all. Speaking as a guy who worked for co-op for 7 years recently quitting.
When i worked for Safeway we weren't allowed to accept tips when taking out peoples groceries.
Ya I worked at an IGA doing that sometimes, but eventually felt disenfranchised and took the tips. Now that I think about it when were employers allowed to disallow tips? I'm sure a resident lawyer or two could argue either point.
What do you tip for a food delivery, when the restaurant adds a $6.00 delivery charge?
Depends, is this delivery charge because of the distance they have to drive to deliver it to my house or a standard delivery charge?
If i know they are going to have to spend alot of time in the car getting to my place and add a delivery charge to makeup for the time it's gonna take their driver, fair enough i don't mind adding a tip on top it's my own lazy fault.
But when a place 5 blocks away adds a delivery charge they can kiss my ass if they think they're getting a tip.
co-op provides the same high quality service to every customer who steps thru the doors. they dont want it to come to the point where tipping is required. If you tip the kid a few times they will start to treat you better than other customers, pretty soon the customers who dont tip are treated like crap. They have to draw the line somewhere to ensure equal great service for all. Speaking as a guy who worked for co-op for 7 years recently quitting.
Was nothing to do with the store. No agenda.
Just wanted to say that the reason i wanted to tip was basically a generational thing to say that I appreciated their honest graft. End of winter tip. They earned it.
I use the third rock from the sun approach with a stack of 5's which represent the servers potenetial tip. Please me and it goes up, anger me and it goes down
Last edited by flamesaresmokin; 09-12-2008 at 07:57 AM.
I get that part. A waitresses' job is to serve me my food. A bartender to give me beer .....
The part I don't get is it's my perogative, it's my money. I'm not buying favours. There's no possible way (IMO, but I'm open to being proved wrong) that by me tipping them I'm asking for preferential treatment. As an usher (I'm assuming) you might be leaving yourself open to that.
If I feel some kid that's IMO is working harder, under more extreme climatic conditions, and actually doing me a favour without patronizing the **** out of me deserves a bit of my money then why would management threaten to fire them for accepting a financial recognition (on top of their hourly work) of good work?
I think your bang on here, but the one thing that really gets me is that in the service industry its basically demanded that someone tip 15-20%. If someone is a complete jerk or just doesn't do anything to help me out i'm not going to tip them very well at all.
There are many people that aren't normally tipped that go above and beyond that deserve it then someone who doesn't give a hoot and just expects a 15% tip because they bring you your food and bill.
I get that part. A waitresses' job is to serve me my food. A bartender to give me beer .....
The part I don't get is it's my perogative, it's my money. I'm not buying favours. There's no possible way (IMO, but I'm open to being proved wrong) that by me tipping them I'm asking for preferential treatment. As an usher (I'm assuming) you might be leaving yourself open to that.
If I feel some kid that's IMO is working harder, under more extreme climatic conditions, and actually doing me a favour without patronizing the **** out of me deserves a bit of my money then why would management threaten to fire them for accepting a financial recognition (on top of their hourly work) of good work?
So my question is this: If a friend/family member/significant other/co-worker, etc.. treats you to a meal and they tip terribly, is it rude of you towards the person treating you to pull out some coin and add to their tip? As by doing so, you're basically announcing to them that you think they're a cheap-ass tipper.
This happened to me at one of my favorite places, which I visit quite often. We finished eating, the bill was $47.50 and the person I was with left $50.
I visit the restaurant twice a week and really enjoy the people/service, and they're very nice to me all the time. I simply went back later in the evening, explained that I was in earlier and my friend didn't tip very well, and gave the server another $5. She was grateful. Most people would not do this.
I worked in the service industry for many years and what it comes down to, is tipping is optional here for a reason. There's nothing I hate more than bad servers getting good tips. If your service sucked, don't tip. It's as simple as that.
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slinging pizza does pay a living wage for a reason ... its not meant to be a career.
Once again- nice view from up there?
Most of the self made millionaires I know personally made their money slinging pizzas. Just because it isn't a career that you would choose, doesn't make it any less of a real job.
Most of the self made millionaires I know personally made their money slinging pizzas. Just because it isn't a career that you would choose, doesn't make it any less of a real job.
then they did it owning their own pizza shop, not working at pizza hut working for someone else, quite different
Most of the self made millionaires I know personally made their money slinging pizzas. Just because it isn't a career that you would choose, doesn't make it any less of a real job.
its not a career and its not intended to pay a living family wage ... thats what i mean by a real job. sorry for the choice of words.
and this kid isnt going to get the work ethic required to be a self made millionaire because of tips... the work ethic will come doing the job right, not because of pay, but because of pride in effort.
co-op provides the same high quality service to every customer who steps thru the doors. they dont want it to come to the point where tipping is required. If you tip the kid a few times they will start to treat you better than other customers, pretty soon the customers who dont tip are treated like crap. They have to draw the line somewhere to ensure equal great service for all. Speaking as a guy who worked for co-op for 7 years recently quitting.
Yeah, I tried to tip the guy at Co-op who took out my groceries the first time they did this and he said they cant accept tips. Its kind of funny that we dont really tip for services rendered, we tip where its socially required.
Your not supposed to tip the guy bringing your groceries to your car or pumping your gas in -30 weather, but your supposed to tip the guy that opens a bottle of beer for you in the bar?
I use the third rock from the sun approach with a stack of 5's which represent the servers potenetial tip. Please me and it goes up, anger me and it goes down
Give this man a red square (or take away a blue one) for the 3rd rock from the sun reference! What a show.
You tip the guy that delivers your pizza but not the man who delivers your baby. IF, he delivers your baby in 30 minutes of less, then you tip him. It's just good service.
its not a career and its not intended to pay a living family wage ... thats what i mean by a real job. sorry for the choice of words.
and this kid isnt going to get the work ethic required to be a self made millionaire because of tips... the work ethic will come doing the job right, not because of pay, but because of pride in effort.
I think that's far too simplistic. Some people become rich because they REALLY like money. In that sense, motivation from getting tips works. Work ethic, pride in the job - nice things but by no means the only path to wealth.
I think that's far too simplistic. Some people become rich because they REALLY like money. In that sense, motivation from getting tips works. Work ethic, pride in the job - nice things but by no means the only path to wealth.
that wasnt my point ... working in a pizza place, a 711 or a gas station are jumping off points. a means for young and inexperienced people to enter the work force. they are not intended as careers or to make a person wealthy. this was my point about a real job and i didnt intend to disparage honest working people in those positions.
beats having them on welfare. although i have no idea how anyone can support a family working for $15.00 an hour (and less in most those cases).
