08-08-2008, 01:11 PM
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#121
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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well, looks like it is delayed until sept 10.
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08-27-2008, 12:41 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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08-27-2008, 01:49 PM
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#125
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Locke
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Ha! That was great. Reading that almost made me feel Douglas Adams had risen from the grave to write it (minus the language, of course).
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08-27-2008, 02:08 PM
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#126
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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The more I think about this thing, the more it bugs me.
But, to be honest, I actually don't think this thing will work.
They need to smash two protons together... I don't think so. I don't have a degree in physics or anything, but is it even likely this will succeed? I hope the particles miss each other and break the machine.
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08-27-2008, 02:24 PM
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#127
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Ha! That was great. Reading that almost made me feel Douglas Adams had risen from the grave to write it (minus the language, of course).
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hehe gave me a good chuckle too...
I finally understand Quantum physics:
"We're talking particles popping in and out of existence, being in two places at the same time, and generally acting like A$$&%les."
lol
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08-27-2008, 02:37 PM
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#128
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
The more I think about this thing, the more it bugs me.
But, to be honest, I actually don't think this thing will work.
They need to smash two protons together... I don't think so. I don't have a degree in physics or anything, but is it even likely this will succeed? I hope the particles miss each other and break the machine.
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Lol what?
You think this is the first time in the universe that two protons will have smashed together? Or even on our planet? Or even intentionally by scientists? This month?
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08-27-2008, 02:38 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
The more I think about this thing, the more it bugs me.
But, to be honest, I actually don't think this thing will work.
They need to smash two protons together... I don't think so. I don't have a degree in physics or anything, but is it even likely this will succeed? I hope the particles miss each other and break the machine.
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Actually, the huge magnets inside the machine make it possible to direct the flow of protons in more or less a confined beam that's only a few protons width wide. When colliding a million or so protons, it's virtually impossible that they would miss.
The chance that something devastating would occur is the same chance that you would have of winning the lottery every week for 3 months or something ridiculous like that.
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08-27-2008, 02:38 PM
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#130
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by photon
You think this is the first time in the universe that two protons will have smashed together? Or even on our planet? Or even intentionally by scientists? This month?
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I saw a Star Trek where two protons in torpedo form collided, no big whoop.
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08-27-2008, 02:39 PM
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#131
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
The more I think about this thing, the more it bugs me.
But, to be honest, I actually don't think this thing will work.
They need to smash two protons together... I don't think so. I don't have a degree in physics or anything, but is it even likely this will succeed? I hope the particles miss each other and break the machine.
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Things like this have been done since 1932. Hell the idea of smashing atoms together goes back to the Rutherford golf foil experiment in 1909. The LHC is just doing it at speeds and energies higher than ever attained before.
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08-27-2008, 02:41 PM
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
The chance that something devastating would occur is the same chance that you would have of winning the lottery every week for 3 months or something ridiculous like that.
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This is based on the the never-before-observed data of this not-yet-happened experiment I trust.
The whole point of this is to see what's going to happen, to give it even vague mathematical odds to an event we can't predict is asinine.
Edit: not meant as an attack on you, I'm sure you are just repeating the scientific community's comments.
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Last edited by Gozer; 08-27-2008 at 02:43 PM.
Reason: edit button is so easily clickable
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08-27-2008, 02:48 PM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Man o' man do I love cracked.com ... and that is one of the best articles I've read on it. I recommend everybody read the whole thing.
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What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
Well, first imagine an apocalyptic nuclear holocaust. Multiply that by about one hundred and twenty thousand billion, and then multiply that by around the neighborhood of infinity. That equals around one eighth of the magnitude of the Big Bang. Nevertheless, scientists are pretty sure they can contain their Big Bang in an erlenmeyer flask, just so long as they remember to cork it.
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So, Basically It's Like...
Imagine you have a huge tanker truck parked outside a children's hospital. You don't know what's inside it, but you're fairly confident that it's either a cure for cancer, or 20,000 gallons of explosive nitroglycerin. To find out which, you have to shoot at it with an AK-47.
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Last edited by Russic; 08-27-2008 at 02:54 PM.
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08-27-2008, 03:33 PM
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#134
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Crash and Bang Winger
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@the Cracked article: Should I really be laughing this hard about the end of the world?
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08-27-2008, 03:39 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by WhiteTom
@the Cracked article: Should I really be laughing this hard about the end of the world?
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If it happens, what're you going to do about it? 
So you might as well sit back, relax, crack a beer and enjoy front row seats to the end of existance.
I know I will. 
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08-27-2008, 05:06 PM
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#136
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Originally Posted by Russic
Man o' man do I love cracked.com ... and that is one of the best articles I've read on it. I recommend everybody read the whole thing.
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Maybe it`s just me, but I would imagine anybody with a science background would find those bits of the article offensive.
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08-27-2008, 05:10 PM
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#137
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Originally Posted by Gozer
This is based on the the never-before-observed data of this not-yet-happened experiment I trust.
The whole point of this is to see what's going to happen, to give it even vague mathematical odds to an event we can't predict is asinine.
Edit: not meant as an attack on you, I'm sure you are just repeating the scientific community's comments.
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Again, maybe it's just me, but I'll take the scientific community's opinion over yours any day.
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08-28-2008, 12:00 AM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by photon
Lol what?
You think this is the first time in the universe that two protons will have smashed together? Or even on our planet? Or even intentionally by scientists? This month?
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I guess what I mean is that the whole mini- big-bang black hole possibility bugs me. But I haven't done enough reading on it to know if that is a serious possibility or not.
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08-28-2008, 12:57 AM
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#139
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by REDVAN
I guess what I mean is that the whole mini- big-bang black hole possibility bugs me. But I haven't done enough reading on it to know if that is a serious possibility or not.
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They have many particle accelerators that have done the same job as the LHC will do in September. The only difference between those ones and the LHC is that the LHC is friggen huge in terms of scale in comparison. Theoretically speaking, they will be better able to get the protons firing at 99.9% of the speed of light in both directions, which IIRC the one in New York (state, not City) could not do. Considering the damage that the one in New York did (none), they are extrapolating that the energy required to actually do damage would be many many thousands of times the amount of energy produced at the LHC, which is why they do not believe that anything of dire consequence will happen.
Personally I am concerned like everyone else about what is going on with the LHC. However, as a layman I do not know all the details, but the scientists involved in the project say that there is a very minuscule chance at something catastrophic occurring when it they fire it up, it helps to differ my worries as I tend to trust expert opinions on subjects that I am not an expert in.
Hopefully September 10th isn't a negative news day
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08-28-2008, 01:30 AM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
They have many particle accelerators that have done the same job as the LHC will do in September. The only difference between those ones and the LHC is that the LHC is friggen huge in terms of scale in comparison. Theoretically speaking, they will be better able to get the protons firing at 99.9% of the speed of light in both directions, which IIRC the one in New York (state, not City) could not do. Considering the damage that the one in New York did (none), they are extrapolating that the energy required to actually do damage would be many many thousands of times the amount of energy produced at the LHC, which is why they do not believe that anything of dire consequence will happen.
Personally I am concerned like everyone else about what is going on with the LHC. However, as a layman I do not know all the details, but the scientists involved in the project say that there is a very minuscule chance at something catastrophic occurring when it they fire it up, it helps to differ my worries as I tend to trust expert opinions on subjects that I am not an expert in.
Hopefully September 10th isn't a negative news day
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If there is negative news, there shall be no day....
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This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
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If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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