Denver police thwart possible Obama assasination attempt by white supremists

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Thor

Imagine a world where people's beliefs, no matter how normal or crazy would push them to kill in the name of their beliefs.

and people ask me why I'm a rationalist, humanist, etc..

I agree. I mean radicals like the atheist-marxist offshoot anarchists are just out to stir up trouble. Willing to kill for you beliefs should be thrown off this world.

Especially like this!

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by HOZ

I agree. I mean radicals like the atheist-marxist offshoot anarchists are just out to stir up trouble. Willing to kill for you beliefs should be thrown off this world.

Especially like this!

That doesn't make sense.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

That doesn't make sense.

It doesn't at all, had me going WTF for a few mins.

[Hack&Lube]

He means that soldiers were willing to kill for their beliefs - in freedom and liberty ???

[MaDMaN_26]

Originally Posted by iggypop

Beaten to it!



Spitting image eh

I had no idea anyone actually used the oompa loompa haircut out side of the movie

[Locke]

750 yards? That'd be a pretty impressive shot.

A terrorist with frosted tips frightens no one.

[JBR]

Do you know what Vanilla Ice and Bo Jackson have in common?

[PIMking]

Its not that Obama is black. Hes half white also. But that makes no difference. This guy scares the holy hell out of me. He has some real radical friends. Rezko whos in prison now. He reverand who hates white people and Amerikkka spiel. and dont forget william ayers ( this guy bomed the pentegon and nypd). But it seems like that is all swept under the rug and the Uber liberal American press doesnt care.

If that were McCain's friends the press would be blowing this up and screaming to high heaven. This guy has no business being American President. He has done nothing to make him President. Even his own VP runningmate has said that he isnt ready to be president yet and that US President isnt something that you learn on the job.

when this guy gets voted in ( which seems to me by the hardcore obvious leaning from the media) that he will win. I dont think this is going to be a fair election and that Obama is our next president. In that case Im moving either back to Germany or to Canada for 4 years. This country is going to be in worse shape with him in office.

Im so excited to my Taxes to go thru the roof.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by PIMking

In that case Im moving either back to Germany or to Canada for 4 years.

...

Im so excited to my Taxes to go thru the roof.

Your taxes will be lower in Germany or Canada?

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Your taxes will be lower in Germany or Canada?

Probably not but at least I will have health care in Canada and get to see the Flames. Thats 2 PROS vs One con

[stuck_in_chuk]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Its not that Obama is black. Hes half white also. But that makes no difference. This guy scares the holy hell out of me. He has some real radical friends. Rezko whos in prison now. He reverand who hates white people and Amerikkka spiel. and dont forget william ayers ( this guy bomed the pentegon and nypd). But it seems like that is all swept under the rug and the Uber liberal American press doesnt care.

To a racist, it doesn't matter if he's 100% black or only 50% black. They would still call him an offensive word that begins with the letter "N".

Originally Posted by PIMking

If that were McCain's friends the press would be blowing this up and screaming to high heaven. This guy has no business being American President. He has done nothing to make him President. Even his own VP runningmate has said that he isnt ready to be president yet and that US President isnt something that you learn on the job.

You could be right - your current president certainly doesn't seemed to have learned anything on the job. But really, compared to W I'm pretty sure that Pauly Shore would look like a good president.

Originally Posted by PIMking

when this guy gets voted in ( which seems to me by the hardcore obvious leaning from the media) that he will win. I dont think this is going to be a fair election and that Obama is our next president. In that case Im moving either back to Germany or to Canada for 4 years. This country is going to be in worse shape with him in office.

If I understand your first "sentence" correctly, you are assuming that Obama will win because of the left-wing media bias ignoring all his flaws. What about Fox, almost all of talk radio, National Review, any newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch, many of the internet bloggers, ...? All of this information about his questionable associations comes from... THE MEDIA!

Will this election be more fair, or less fair, than the one in 2000? Whether or not you agree that Gore got robbed, you have to admit that the optics of a Supreme Court (which included judges put in by the father of one of the candidates) stopping recount procedures before a definitive answer could be reached to award the presidency to one of the candidates is a little suspicious. Saying that you plan to move back to Germany or move to Canada is WORSE than those who said that they would move to Canada if Bush were re-elected. Worse, because at least those people knew what a disaster Bush would be for the country (by the way, it should be obvious that they were correct).

Also, this thread is supposed to be about an attempt to kill a person. Not to question who he hangs out with, or about his ability to govern. It is about one twisted individual who decided that someone of a different ethnic group does not deserve to be President, and should be stopped by any means necessary.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Locke

750 yards? That'd be a pretty impressive shot.

A terrorist with frosted tips frightens no one.

750 yards is nothing with a good sniper rifle. I haven't read the article so I don't know what they had, but....750 yards is a pretty easy shot for a good sniper with the right equipment.

[moon]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Probably not but at least I will have health care in Canada and get to see the Flames. Thats 2 PROS vs One con

If you think the Health Care up here is a pro then you are going to be very disappointed.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Its not that Obama is black. Hes half white also. But that makes no difference. This guy scares the holy hell out of me. He has some real radical friends. Rezko whos in prison now. He reverand who hates white people and Amerikkka spiel. and dont forget william ayers ( this guy bomed the pentegon and nypd). But it seems like that is all swept under the rug and the Uber liberal American press doesnt care.

If that were McCain's friends the press would be blowing this up and screaming to high heaven. This guy has no business being American President. He has done nothing to make him President. Even his own VP runningmate has said that he isnt ready to be president yet and that US President isnt something that you learn on the job.

when this guy gets voted in ( which seems to me by the hardcore obvious leaning from the media) that he will win. I dont think this is going to be a fair election and that Obama is our next president. In that case Im moving either back to Germany or to Canada for 4 years. This country is going to be in worse shape with him in office.

Im so excited to my Taxes to go thru the roof.

Unless you make more than 250,000 dollars a year, you will see a substantial tax cut under Obama's plan. If you make less than 55,000--your taxes will go up slightly under McCain's. Just saying.

I do also think you might take another look at the "friends" you associate Obama with. He had one business deal with the wife of Rezko, and supported a public works project Rezko was involved with. Years later Rezko was indicted on corruption charges in an unrelated matter--so I'm not sure how that really disqualifies Obama as a candidate. This article from factcheck.org pretty much debunks the whole Rezko business.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...o_reality.html

It's true that Obama served on numerous committees with Bill Ayers, many years after Ayers was involved in the Weathermen. Just for reference, when the Weathermen were active in violent plots, Obama was 8 years old. Again--it's a pretty weak "guilt by association." Ayers has a checkered past--there's no doubt. But Obama was a child when all of this happened, so I don't really see how you can pin it on him any more than you can pin an unrelated corruption charge by a former business associate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers#Radical_history

As for Wright, he's certainly a kook, and one who has a tendency to say some things that offend genteel middle Americans a little bit. I've asked in this thread before exactly what it is that makes him a "racist"--and haven't received a good answer. Crazy, sure. Radical, definitely. But "hating white people"? That's a little silly. If every African-American who is angry about race relations in America is a racist, then that's a lot of racist black people out there. Anger isn't racism. It's a natural reaction to disenfranchisement--and I think part of racial healing in this country is to start listening to just where some of that anger comes from.

But there's one thing all of those allegations have in common: they have nothing to do with Obama's plan, or how he will change things once in office. If you oppose universal health care, or think that taxpayers earning over 250,000 should not pay any more tax than they do right now, or if you think the best foreign policy is belligerence rather than diplomacy--then by all means, vote McCain. Just make sure you know what kind of car you're buying. There are many legitimate reasons to vote McCain--but I just don't think Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers or Rezko are among them.

In any case, if you think "guilt by association" is a valid reason not to vote for someone, you might try googling "Keating Five."

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by moon

If you think the Health Care up here is a pro then you are going to be very disappointed.

The Canadian system is far from perfect--but trust me, coming from the U.S. he'll find it to be a big improvement.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by moon

If you think the Health Care up here is a pro then you are going to be very disappointed.

Some public healthcare is better than no coverage unless you pay for it.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

That doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by Thor

It doesn't at all, had me going WTF for a few mins.

Go figure it went way over your heads. The meaning was a bit harder to come by that Thor's banal/trite statement. Even Martin Luther King understood; If you have nothing you would die for, you have nothing to live for.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by MacFlame

It ends when the government starts looking at things realistically and stops allowing everyone their rights to their ideologies, no matter how ridiculous their view is. The KKK does not "deserve" the right to freedom of speech if it is using that right to spew hate propaganda. Allowing these organizations to exist in the first place is downright scary.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

-Benjamin Franklin

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Go figure it went way over your heads. The meaning was a bit harder to come by that Thor's banal/trite statement. Even Martin Luther King understood; If you have nothing you would die for, you have nothing to live for.

Yeah, I am pretty dumb.

Did anyone else get it?

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yeah, I am pretty dumb.

Did anyone else get it?

Ummm yes.

and yes. Hack&Lube