Is there such a thing as a lover that got away?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Why is it rediculous?

Would you date a chick that looked like that?
Are you really saying that you don't care about looks, or are you a hypocrite who is saying "I don't care about looks, unless you're ugly"?

It is ridiclous as i've never in my 40+ years of living on this planet encountered someone who was 500 lbs.

I've dated women who were close to 300 lbs. I also know a gal out on the east coast who is toothless ( a term you seem to love). She is toothless now as she can't afford the cost of getting false teeth.

Would you please cut the ugly bull crap. If i don't feel a chemical attraction to a women doesn't mean she's ugly.

As for the business comment you made early. I don't treat women as some sexual object i can get rocks off on. Frankly i'm surprised you made that comment.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Aint buying this.


maybe in the "western" world this may hold true as we have been conditioned to believe that "thin" is in.

look at a whole bunch of other places around the world....and the standards are completely different.

What is considered "unhealthy" here....is considered quite attractive in other cultures.

It just isnt that simple.....as "fat" is also a subjective term. Some are obvious and some are not....meaning exactly what I might consider fat....you may find well within your desireable range. Everyone is different and as such have very different standards as to what they are attracted too.

I agree it’s not as simple as that.

That is a very basic overview of what I was trying to get across, every person and culture has there own unique tastes.

However I do believe that biology plays apart in who we find attractive

[MaDMaN_26]

Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans

Really? I stand by my statement that saying that she's better than the girl because she's apparently shorter and fatter is shallow, immature and idiotic. It's not something I've EVER done in my life, but thanks for assuming I have done it and do do it.

My issue with the OP is she automatically assumed this girl was "lesser" because of physical traits she observed. I don't consider myself to be better than every one who is shorter and heavier than me... do you?

Maybe you need to look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary...?

It was an honest way for her to write down the feeling that came over her in the moment. You can try and paint her like some horrible evil witch and you and try and make it sound like I think skinny people are better than fat people too if you want, thats not what I'm saying, I don't believe it was the point she was trying to convey and I think your prevereting what she said and what I'm saying into something completely different so you can get on your horse and go on this crusade of "I dont judge anyone by there looks" Bull... I dont buy your high and mighty act for a second and you might as well dismount cause I'm not swallowing your crap any time soon.

[JimmytheT]

Originally Posted by Dion

It is ridiclous as i've never in my 40+ years of living on this planet encountered someone who was 500 lbs.

I've dated women who were close to 300 lbs. I also know a gal out on the east coast who is toothless ( a term you seem to love). She is toothless now as she can't afford the cost of getting false teeth.

Would you please cut the ugly bull crap. If i don't feel a chemical attraction to a women doesn't mean she's ugly.

As for the business comment you made early. I don't treat women as some sexual object i can get rocks off on. Frankly i'm surprised you made that comment.

NM

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by MaDMaN_26

Bull... I dont buy your high and mighty act for a second and you might as well dismount cause I'm not swallowing your crap any time soon.

Yeesh. That reads kind of dirty.

[Bill Bumface]

I don't feel bad at all for saying I'd never date a 300 pounder. Shallowness aside, that says a lot about someones lifestyle and the value they have for their own body/health. If someone doesn't value themself or enjoy being active, we aren't going to do well. Plus the highly obvious fact that every person on here is more attracted to someone who is fit than someone who is obese, and if you want to deny that it's just because you don't believe you are capable of attracting someone who isn't obese.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by J pold

Me neither if I where to take a girl form the hottie draft and a woman from the Siberian wrestling team I don’t believe Dion could honestly say he doesn’t see a difference, at least one that would affect how he makes his decision on dating one of them.

That's a shallow comment to make. There's more to a person that just thier looks.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Dion

That's a shallow comment to make. There's more to a person that just thier looks.

Alright lets control the experiment everything about them is the exact same in every way other than there looks.

Hottie draft participant or Siberian wrestler? Or do you still see no difference…

[JimmytheT]

Originally Posted by MaDMaN_26

It was an honest way for her to write down the feeling that came over her in the moment. You can try and paint her like some horrible evil witch and you and try and make it sound like I think skinny people are better than fat people too if you want, thats not what I'm saying, I don't believe it was the point she was trying to convey and I think your prevereting what she said and what I'm saying into something completely different so you can get on your horse and go on this crusade of "I dont judge anyone by there looks" Bull... I dont buy your high and mighty act for a second and you might as well dismount cause I'm not swallowing your crap any time soon.

Of course we can all judge people by their looks. THe bed-ridden over 500 lb person who can not even support his/her own weight standing, people will automatically make a judgment, rightly or wrongly.

I think the main point being made is that the OP seems befuddled as to why she does not have this fellow, when the answer may be contained in her statement itself. Some guys do not like ugly personalities, good physical looks be-damned.

[Dion]

[quote=hulkrogan;1413092]I don't feel bad at all for saying I'd never date a 300 pounder. Shallowness aside, that says a lot about someones lifestyle and the value they have for their own body/health. [quote]

Weight gain isn't just about lifestyle. Genetics and medications have a role in it too.

This may be hard to swallow, but a medication your doctor prescribed could be to blame. Certain prescription drugs used to treat mood disorders, seizures, migraines, diabetes, and even high blood pressure can cause weight gain - sometimes 10 pounds a month. Some steroids, hormone replacement therapy, and oral contraceptives can also cause unwanted pounds to creep up on you.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=56339

[Bill Bumface]

[quote=Dion;1413099][quote=hulkrogan;1413092]I don't feel bad at all for saying I'd never date a 300 pounder. Shallowness aside, that says a lot about someones lifestyle and the value they have for their own body/health.

Weight gain isn't just about lifestyle. Genetics and medications have a role in it too.

This may be hard to swallow, but a medication your doctor prescribed could be to blame. Certain prescription drugs used to treat mood disorders, seizures, migraines, diabetes, and even high blood pressure can cause weight gain - sometimes 10 pounds a month. Some steroids, hormone replacement therapy, and oral contraceptives can also cause unwanted pounds to creep up on you.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=56339

I forgot to add the " Its glandular " at the end of my post.

Some people will for sure have an easier time than others, but really, if you get off your butt once in a while and do something active, play some sports outdoors, go for hikes... whatever... you won't end up being 300lbs. You might carry a little more than the next guy, but you'll be healthy.

If doing active things isn't for you and the weight piles on, thats fine. It's your choice, but a girl like that would never be dating material for me, aesthetics aside. Even if she has an amazing body and sits on her arse all day, I'll get bored eventually.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Dion

That's a shallow comment to make. There's more to a person that just thier looks.

I don't think anyone has said "looks are the only thing that counts". But count they do.

Frankly, I'm glad looks count, or I'd be totally out of luck. I'm extremely handsome, but I don't have anything else going for me. Bad personality, no money, flat feet, cranky dog, criminal record... if looks didn't count for something, I wouldn't even have gonorrhea.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by J pold

Like I was saying to HelloHockeyFans, biologically we are attracted to people that look healthy. It’s been biologically engineered into our system, our sole purpose on this earth (from a biological standpoint) is too reproduced and we want too reproduced with people that look healthy.

I agree with that to an extent ......however.

Loads of cash (resources) is also a sign of fitness that often outweighs the "healthy" look.

More resources = more offspring + a better chance for their survival.

Look at Donald Trump for example.

edit to add I call bullcrap on the judging thing. Like it or not we all make judgement calls on people we've never met on a daily basis. It's how we function.

[MaDMaN_26]

Originally Posted by Dion

That's a shallow comment to make. There's more to a person that just thier looks.

Of course there is but to claim that you do not see someone and go through the process internally is hard to believe (well I think I have made it clear I do not believe it) I'm not saying you act on it, I'm not saying you can't move past it and find other things to appreciate in a person... but to say you don't go through that process is, I think, impossible for any human being.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by J pold

Alright lets control the experiment everything about them is the exact same in every way other than there looks.

Hottie draft participant or Siberian wrestler? Or do you still see no difference…

You raised a hypothetical situation that i have yet to encounter. That being having to choose between 2 gals who have same personality, morals, values etc.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Dion

1)It is ridiclous as i've never in my 40+ years of living on this planet encountered someone who was 500 lbs.

2)I've dated women who were close to 300 lbs. 3)I also know a gal out on the east coast who is toothless ( a term you seem to love). She is toothless now as she can't afford the cost of getting false teeth.

4)Would you please cut the ugly bull crap. If i don't feel a chemical attraction to a women doesn't mean she's ugly.

5)As for the business comment you made early. I don't treat women as some sexual object i can get rocks off on. Frankly i'm surprised you made that comment.

Okay I'll address these points 1 by 1.

1) But they are certainly around, so the point stands, would you date someone that big, or does your threshold stop at 300 lbs?

2)Good for you.

3) That's good too. I didn't specify why my hypothetical lady had no teeth, maybe she was in a car accident, maybe it's the same case as yours. You seem to be implying that I'm making judgements on the validity of someone as a person based on their looks. That's a totally different topic and one you'll likely not get much arguement on, the point is that you claimed to not classify people in to degrees of physical attractiveness, why she has no teeth is irrelvant to if you find teen attracive or not.

4)You claim to not classify degrees of physical attractiveness, but this comment leads me to believe you do. What do you mean by Chemical attracation? If you mean shared interests, having a good time, the kind of things a relationship is based on then of course not having that doesn't mean they're ugly. Every girl I've ever broken up with was because we didn't have those things, and not one of them was ugly. If you mean physical attractiveness I'll agree with that too, as there are a lot of good looking girls that just don't do it for me for some reason or another. But if that is what you mean then you just sunk your own ship.

5)Okay, you've established that you're a better person than me, good for you. But what about if you're looking for a longstanding relationship, or marriage. Sex should be a part of that, even if you don't want it, what if she does, and if you don't want to have sex with someone because you don't find them physically attractive then why bother with a romantic relationship? The sex question is valid.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I agree with that to an extent ......however.

Loads of cash (resources) is also a sign of fitness that often outweighs the "healthy" look.

More resources = more offspring + a better chance for their survival.

Look at Donald Trump for example.

It’s still about survival and your offspring…if a dude is rich he can provide for you and your kids (from a women’s perceptive)

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by JimmytheT

I think the main point being made is that the OP seems befuddled as to why she does not have this fellow, when the answer may be contained in her statement itself. Some guys do not like ugly personalities, good physical looks be-damned.

I'm not befuddled why I don't have this fellow. I'm befuddled how a guy that nice could marry someone that hideous (yes, that's the term I use).
If he had married someone pleasant I would have been happy to have a chat with him and his wife that day. But this feeling came over me and I really had to leave before I said something that would have hurt.

Yes I know it's childish and but it's bugging me less now after reading everyone's input.

[Gozer]

She was a he.

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