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Old 04-14-2005, 08:50 PM   #1
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Great, if admitedly perhaps slightly slanted documentary on CBC Newsworld right now regarding the American media and the impact of oulets such as Fox News.

However - the little nugget of gold is when Conservative pundent Ann Coulter INSISTS to the host that Canada sent troops to Viet Nam. She goes off about Canada in the past being on the the US closest allies and that "sent troops to Viet Nam"

Host: Actually we didn't
Coulter: no you did
Host: No, we took a pass on Viet Nam
Coulter: I think that's wrong.

Fascinating to see a so called expert stick their foot in it so bad. Chump.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:52 PM   #2
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You should call this post "Ann Coulter Makes a Fool of Herelf Again"

I don't think she can go 5 min without saying somthing completly stupid. Especially when talking about Canada.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:59 PM   #3
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I believe Capn' Crunch touched on this topic before...he said there were Canadians going to the states and joining the army during 'Nam just as hippies from US colleges were defecting to Canada. But obviously Canada as a country has nothing to do with it.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:16 PM   #4
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I believe Capn' Crunch touched on this topic before...he said there were Canadians going to the states and joining the army during 'Nam just as hippies from US colleges were defecting to Canada. But obviously Canada as a country has nothing to do with it.
I equal numbers? I doubt it.

There might have been a few Canadians that volunteered, but if Coulter was trying to suggest that Canada was in Vietnam, then that is a mistake.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:29 PM   #5
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Does anyone get the idea she is just "faking" this whole dumb blonde thing? It just seems like a total scam to me.
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:14 PM   #6
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I have no doubt she is insane.
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:41 PM   #7
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The actual number was 10,000 Canadian's fought in the Vietnam war, many of them were former members of the Canadian forces, some were ex-pats who had moved to the states earlier, some basically left Canada and joined the U.S. Military for the reason that they supported the war in Vietnam, so I can actually see where Coulter might have become confused.

Some other things to realize about Canada and the Vietnam war

- Canada was the largest ammunition supplier to the U.S. action in Vietnam, supplying everything from boots, to small arms ammo, to bombs

- Canada manufactured and supplied agent orange and Napalm to the U.S. military specifically for use by the U.S. Military in Vietnam.

- Canadian delegates to the UN truce Commission were actively spying on the North Vietnam gov't

So while Ann Coulter might not have done her homework, or thought things through, it would be easy to see why she reached the conclusion that she did.


Canada in Nam

And it was never in equal numbers, but for every 3 American's that fled to Canada, 1 Canadian went to Vietnam. thats actually a pretty stunning figure considering the population differences between the countries.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:14 PM   #8
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Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Apr 14 2005, 10:41 PM
The actual number was 10,000 Canadian's fought in the Vietnam war, many of them were former members of the Canadian forces, some were ex-pats who had moved to the states earlier, some basically left Canada and joined the U.S. Military for the reason that they supported the war in Vietnam, so I can actually see where Coulter might have become confused.

Some other things to realize about Canada and the Vietnam war

- Canada was the largest ammunition supplier to the U.S. action in Vietnam, supplying everything from boots, to small arms ammo, to bombs

- Canada manufactured and supplied agent orange and Napalm to the U.S. military specifically for use by the U.S. Military in Vietnam.

- Canadian delegates to the UN truce Commission were actively spying on the North Vietnam gov't

So while Ann Coulter might not have done her homework, or thought things through, it would be easy to see why she reached the conclusion that she did.


Canada in Nam

And it was never in equal numbers, but for every 3 American's that fled to Canada, 1 Canadian went to Vietnam. thats actually a pretty stunning figure considering the population differences between the countries.
I don't think so Captain. I've seen the interview in question and there is no doubt that she was arguing that Canada, as a whole, as a government policy, sent troops to Viet Nam.

She was wrong. Everything you said in your post I believe, but I'd be willing to bet she doesn't know any of it, and just thought we sent troops to the Viet Nam war in the same way we took part in the Korean war.

Come to think of it, that could be where she made the mistake. It is an Asian country after all. It's easy to mix them up.

I read a book recently by a guy named David Brock. He was a conservative "reporter" who did the hatchet job on Anita Hill and also put some stuff together on Clinton with some duped and dimwitted Arkansas State Police who got paid to say a bunch of crazy things (he eats the apple, core and all!) about Clinton. Anyhow, this Brock guy is a proven liar and fool and he has since changed sides but one line that sticks out from the whole book went something like "I spent my time drinking and smoking with Anne Coulter. That woman survives on nothing but chardonnay and cigarettes" or something like that. Kinda funny.

She is a lying pig.

"The C Word" should mean "Coulter".
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I'm not going either way. We all know that Coulter is a glory hog who believes her own hype machine. I'm not trying to justify anything she says, and you could be right, she could be confusing Korea with Vietnam. She could have also seen the number of Canadian citizen's involved in the war and leapt to the conclusion that it had to have been sanctioned by the Canadian Government.

In fact we used to have a favorite conspiracy theory in idle times in the field where we theorized that the Canadian government secretly encouraged Canadian forces soldiers to take part in the war, and then return to train future generations of Canadian Soldiers.

I've never been able to find out how many of those returning Canadian's who left the CAF's to fight in vietnam returned to thier own home units when they returned after thier tour.

But then again idle hands are the devils tool kit, and Oswald didn't act alone.
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Just wondering who the interviewer was?
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Just wondering who the interviewer was?
Whoever the usual Fifth Estate guy is. Bob Mckeown I think is the dude's name.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:45 AM   #12
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She could have also seen the number of Canadian citizen's involved in the war and leapt to the conclusion that it had to have been sanctioned by the Canadian Government.
Information about Canada's non-involvement in Vietnam would be incommensurably easier to come to across than whatever the number of Canadian nationals who fought in the Vietnam war. If she would go out of her way to find out how many Canadian soldiers participated in Vietnam she would almost surely have ran into the FACT that Canada, the country, did not send any troops.

Do a search on Google for "Canada and Vietnam War" the top ten links talk about Canada's official neutral position before they begin discussing what roles individual Canadians had in the war.
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Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Apr 14 2005, 10:23 PM
I'm not going either way. We all know that Coulter is a glory hog who believes her own hype machine. I'm not trying to justify anything she says, and you could be right, she could be confusing Korea with Vietnam. She could have also seen the number of Canadian citizen's involved in the war and leapt to the conclusion that it had to have been sanctioned by the Canadian Government.

In fact we used to have a favorite conspiracy theory in idle times in the field where we theorized that the Canadian government secretly encouraged Canadian forces soldiers to take part in the war, and then return to train future generations of Canadian Soldiers.

I've never been able to find out how many of those returning Canadian's who left the CAF's to fight in vietnam returned to thier own home units when they returned after thier tour.

But then again idle hands are the devils tool kit, and Oswald didn't act alone.
That a few Canadians joined the U.S. army and went to Viet Nam is a little known fact and something that I know because two of my school mates did this while I marched against the war [no hard feelings and we never discussed their experience]. The overwhelming view of Canada, was as a haven for draft dodgers, that refused to join the Yanks in Viet Nam. Coulter is just a misinformed, ignorant, .....
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