What are your thoughts on smoking pot for recreation?

[J pold]

It’s stoner bashing time!

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by flameswin

They're wealthy, yet have a drug problem, it happens, but you seem to be stuck on the idea that it's an impposibility.

Fixed...

Sorry, pet peeve.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Fixed...

Sorry, pet peeve.

Ha ha, that's a pet peeve of mine as well, lol. But I had just rolled out of bed when I quickly typed out that post. You'll notice many other errors as well.

[Cawz]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

Pot lead to hash, and oil, and lead to mushrooms (no, pot isn't a gateway drug...)

Then some LSD, but mainly coke.

What about pot makes it a gateway drug? Is it that the illegal drug taboo is broken, or is there something about weed that makes people want to experiment. You'd think it would make people too paranoid to try something harder.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by 604flames

ASHL Div. 6 - Goalaholics.

Except the last couple weeks our leading scorer (and resident pothead) has decided to go home and smoke instead of sharing it in the room. The rest of us kind of just laugh at him (and the one guy on our team who will only drink Spritzers after the game)..

I know the name. You guys are about to play my buddies team. I use to do spring with them years ago, the Mekanix or something like that (different team name back then.) I bailed on 8-rinks and went over to planet ice in coq. and in north delta...

[mikey_the_redneck]

I like to smoke weed when I go camping.
Weed, liquor, drugs it's all the same in my opinion. It's just that the government says some are OK, and others aren't, mostly because they don't profit from those ones.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Cawz

What about pot makes it a gateway drug? Is it that the illegal drug taboo is broken, or is there something about weed that makes people want to experiment. You'd think it would make people too paranoid to try something harder.

Mostly its all BS, its just as easy to suggest Booze is the gateway drug to illegal drugs.

There is a taboo due to misinformation about drugs, so often when kids try weed they realize they've been lied to and then start to distrust what they've been told about other drugs.

I can tell you from my experience, the vast majority of my friends who smoked pot, did mushrooms, or even some who did hash, did not end up trying cocaine, heroin, or any other hard drug.

Mushrooms are in fact pretty much the safest drug you can do, the only danger comes to what you do while on them which is easy to prepare for in advance or for mentally unstable people who shouldn't be using them in the first place.

DARE has propogated so much misinformation for so long, its very hard to combat their bad information.

I'd always suggest honest to our kids over lies, since if they find out we were lying to them about drugs, they would be more likely to try other drugs besides more benign ones like MJ or Mushrooms.

[604flames]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

I know the name. You guys are about to play my buddies team. I use to do spring with them years ago, the Mekanix or something like that (different team name back then.) I bailed on 8-rinks and went over to planet ice in coq. and in north delta...

Hahaha nice! Yeah we love playin' against those guys, glad we drew them in the playoffs.. First game is in about an hour actually. One of our guys this year played for them last year too.

[Cawz]

Originally Posted by Thor

Mostly its all BS, its just as easy to suggest Booze is the gateway drug to illegal drugs.

Absolutely.

Originally Posted by Thor

There is a taboo due to misinformation about drugs, so often when kids try weed they realize they've been lied to and then start to distrust what they've been told about other drugs.

I can tell you from my experience, the vast majority of my friends who smoked pot, did mushrooms, or even some who did hash, did not end up trying cocaine, heroin, or any other hard drug.

Mushrooms are in fact pretty much the safest drug you can do, the only danger comes to what you do while on them which is easy to prepare for in advance or for mentally unstable people who shouldn't be using them in the first place.

DARE has propogated so much misinformation for so long, its very hard to combat their bad information.

I'd always suggest honest to our kids over lies, since if they find out we were lying to them about drugs, they would be more likely to try other drugs besides more benign ones like MJ or Mushrooms.

Totally agree. I think South park summed it up best in regards to pot. It makes you happy with being bored. People with no ambition can smoke and have fun, all the while accomplishing nothing.

[Russic]

I never understood what was so unique about weed that it was a gateway drug, yet alcohol was not.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I like to smoke weed when I go camping.
Weed, liquor, drugs it's all the same in my opinion. It's just that the government says some are OK, and others aren't, mostly because they don't profit from those ones.

They're not all the SAME. Some are more dangerous then others.

You can smoke weed for years without any side effects, but you only have to do meth once. Even alcohol is more dangerous than weed.

[Displaced Flames fan]

The pro drug rhetoric in this thread is shocking.

As for the gateway theory, I believe those who say most if not all of the potheads they know haven't advanced to more dangerous drugs. On the other hand, I'm guessing nearly every meth, heroin and cocaine addict has smoked marijuana...and probably smoked it first.

I can't lie to my kids about drugs because I've never done them. I don't really like the fact that you're saying if I tell my kids that drugs are bad that I am lying to them. Assinine.

[Cawz]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

The pro drug rhetoric in this thread is shocking.

As for the gateway theory, I believe those who say most if not all of the potheads they know haven't advanced to more dangerous drugs. On the other hand, I'm guessing nearly every meth, heroin and cocaine addict has smoked marijuana...and probably smoked it first.

Maybe they drank alcohol while underage first.

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I can't lie to my kids about drugs because I've never done them. I don't really like the fact that you're saying if I tell my kids that drugs are bad that I am lying to them. Assinine.

Its not that youre lying. You just cant leave it at "drugs are bad" without explaining why. Tobacco, alcohol and weed (and so on) are all bad for you. But they arent necesarily going to turn you into a junkie burnout.

[Displaced Flames fan]

[quote=Cawz;1403014]

Maybe they drank alcohol while underage first.

They PROBABLY drank alcohol first or around the same time. What's your point?

Its not that youre lying. You just cant leave it at "drugs are bad" without explaining why. Tobacco, alcohol and weed (and so on) are all bad for you. But they arent necesarily going to turn you into a junkie burnout

What makes you think I leave it at that? Further, what does 'not necessarily going to turn you into a junkie burnout' have to do with anything?

Strange reply.

[Azure]

I think the point is that during DARE we were taught that all drugs were bad, and the teacher left it at that.

We were never taught why they were bad, and what was worse or not. Sad part was in Grade 5, one of the girls in my class had already done weed, and knew more about it than the teacher.

[Cawz]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

They PROBABLY drank alcohol first or around the same time. What's your point?.

That alcohol can be considered a gateway drug (as mentioned previously).

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

What makes you think I leave it at that?

Well then what do you say?

Telling your kids that drugs are bad isnt a lie. But its not the whole truth. If you tell your kids that drugs are bad without mentioning that cigarettes, alcohol, fatty foods, lack of exercise, etc are all bad, then its not the whole story.

All those after-school specials that I watched while growing up told me that if someone smokes weed, they will become a loser junkie. Thats the lie.

Edit: Yeah, what he said above.

[Displaced Flames fan]

[quote=Cawz;1403027]

That alcohol can be considered a gateway drug (as mentioned previously).

OK. What does that have to do with what I said? I'll answer for you....nothing. Wow.

Well then what do you say?

Telling your kids that drugs are bad isnt a lie. But its not the whole truth. If you tell your kids that drugs are bad without mentioning that cigarettes, alcohol, fatty foods, lack of exercise, etc are all bad, then its not the whole story.

All those after-school specials that I watched while growing up told me that if someone smokes weed, they will become a loser junkie. Thats the lie.

Edit: Yeah, what he said above

So was Thor talking about DARE only or was he talking about parents talking to their kids? If it's the former then I guess I see your point. If he's talking about me as a parent, I take issue with it. Again, you think you know what I say or don't say to my kids. Very, very odd.

My worst fear is that one of my kids will be made to feel 'not good enough' if they say no to it. I never had that problem, but kids are much more cruel today then they were 20 years ago. I have a feeling there are a couple of posters in this thread who would make fun of someone who wouldn't toke up when presented with the opportunity. Some have made it clear how 'cool' they think it is.

[Azure]

Yeah, too many kids do drugs/alcohol just to 'fit in.'

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

OK. What does that have to do with what I said? I'll answer for you....nothing. Wow.

I'd say it does have something to do with it. You said something along the lines of "nearly every person who does hard drugs did marijuana first".

That's probably true, but what of it? They probably drank before that, and smoked cigarettes before that. You can't just say that it's irrelevant. If smoking weed leads to something, drinking booze before that means just as much. It's exactly the same point you are making.

But bla bla bla. I don't buy this gateway business. Some kids are going to try it, others aren't. It has more to do with personality and rebellion than any gateway idea. Some kids are willing to do something they could get in trouble for. The kids who start smoking and drinking earlier were probably doing other things they shouldn't have been doing all along.

Eating Halloween candy in bed, looking at dad's secret magazines, stealing from your sister... Being a "rebel" (though smoking weed hardly qualifies) starts long before you get that first chance to get high.

[Cawz]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

OK. What does that have to do with what I said? I'll answer for you....nothing. Wow.

Your "on the other hand" comment saying that nearly every addict smoked weed first suggested that it is a gateway drug. That was my original post in this thread. I question that theory.

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

So was Thor talking about DARE only or was he talking about parents talking to their kids? If it's the former then I guess I see your point. If he's talking about me as a parent, I take issue with it.

I think both groups lie to kids. Not you necessarily, but when I was growing up, parents and schools alike told us the horrors of drugs, which are exagerations.

I didnt mean to question your parenting.

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

My worst fear is that one of my kids will be made to feel 'not good enough' if they say no to it. I never had that problem, but kids are much more cruel today then they were 20 years ago.

Absolutely. But if I was a parent, I'd be way more fearful of my daughter getting drunk and knocked up than trying weed.