Man stabbed, then decapitated on grey hound bus

[Machiavelli]

Shock; classic post-traumatic stress response.

He'll have nightmares for sure. Poor dude.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

It would be nigh near impossible to carry a desert eagle as a CCW. Quit playing so many video games.

Trained professionals are taught to shoot to kill. IIRC, that is EXACTLY what the cop, in Calgary that shot the guy with a knife a few months ago. And you go to the firing range to train for that.

Sure, your aim can be messed up, but I doubt that it is 'staggeringly low.'

Even Charles Bronson would have had a pretty tough go of shooting a guy in the head on a moving bus full of panicked people.

I gotta wonder what the was going through the cop's heads as they were dealing with this lunatic.

"Dispatch, we've got a guy with a knife in one hand and a human head in the other. Backup, we need backup".

I don't mean that as a joke, really. It must have been pretty intense. Probably some itchy trigger fingers and sweaty palms and I don't know if anyone could blame them if they'd shot the guy.

According to the CTV 11pm news, the killer is 40 years old. The RCs apparently tackled him as he jumped out of a window from the bus.

[KevanGuy]

A Facebook website called "R.I.P. Tim" identified the victim as Tim McLean of Winnipeg.

http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...b5zNY4zK3rbLNw

[Ozy_Flame]

http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...BceudWneb1Jv1A

The American comments are completely ludicrous. Al-Qaeda linked? Wow. Just wow. There are some seriously asinine comments on this article, especially from people who weren't even there to experience it....

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

A Facebook website called "R.I.P. Tim" identified the victim as Tim McLean of Winnipeg.

http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...b5zNY4zK3rbLNw

"There have been several media reports that the man was seen to consume some of the victim's flesh."

This story is getting more gross and gruesome by the minute. Stabbing someone repeatedly and killing them, beheading them, carrying their head to mock the police and passengers, and then eating some of the flesh? I've never heard anything like that in my entire life (i've seen clips of beheadings etc......Nick Berg in Afghanistan but noone ate the guy).

RIP Tim McLean. He seemed like a great guy judging from his friends comments.

[OILFAN #81]

For those with facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22639421199

Has pictures of the victim. Tragic loss. Only 22 years old and seemed like a great guy.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...BceudWneb1Jv1A

The American comments are completely ludicrous. Al-Qaeda linked? Wow. Just wow. There are some seriously asinine comments on this article, especially from people who weren't even there to experience it....

There are always s and idiots that use things like this to spread their idiocy.

[ken0042]

Just heard on the radio that the victim was heading back to Winnipeg from Edmonton after working as a carnival worker. I can only imagine that as a young guy he got a job with the Red River Ex, made some friends, and was encouraged to follow the tour to Calgary for the Stampede and then Edmonton for Klondike Days (or whatever its called now.)

At 22 that might just be a summer to remember. I sure hope was indeed able to have the time of his life before coming into such a tragedy.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

The CBC has named the attacker

Vince Weiguang Li, 40 of Edmonton...charged with 2nd degree murder (!?!)

[4X4]

I am blown away by all the people that are calling the rest of the passengers cowards. I'd like to meet some of these monday morning quarterbacks and see them disarm a big guy with a big knife in close quarters like a bus.

These ######s talking about how a few of the passengers could have ganged up to disarm him. Right. Were they supposed to form a circle around him in the back of a bus? Start climbing over seats to surround a guy going mental with a rambo knife?

Seriously, some of the commenters need a good slap upside the head. I guess they would have preferred a massacre, because that what it would have been if the passengers would have attacked. One by one as they came at the knife guy, they'd start piling up the bodies in the bus aisle.

[Ducay]

Im putting my money on gang connections. like this just doesnt happen out of nowhere. I hate playing the race card, but a big Asian (from Edmonton), gets on at rural stop bound for Winnipeg. (Perhaps less scrutiny and witnesses beforehand there, or less chance of victim figuring something out).

People who go crazy and random attack don't just decide to buy a bus ticket, wait around, and get on and attack with a knife. They grab the closest weapon and have at 'er in a rage.
I don't see how this is anything other than premeditated and Im shocked he's being charged with 2nd degree and not first.

[J pold]

Someone in the facebook group mentioned that they where playing Rambo as the in house movie, is that true?

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Im putting my money on gang connections. like this just doesnt happen out of nowhere. I hate playing the race card, but a big Asian (from Edmonton), gets on at rural stop bound for Winnipeg. (Perhaps less scrutiny and witnesses beforehand there, or less chance of victim figuring something out).

People who go crazy and random attack don't just decide to buy a bus ticket, wait around, and get on and attack with a knife. They grab the closest weapon and have at 'er in a rage.
I don't see how this is anything other than premeditated and Im shocked he's being charged with 2nd degree and not first.

Man I disagree. This dude is nuts. I don't get the sense it was premeditated either. Why would a gang member kill him in front of all these people and then stand there mutilating the body until the police show up. No way.

[Log]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I am blown away by all the people that are calling the rest of the passengers cowards. I'd like to meet some of these monday morning quarterbacks and see them disarm a big guy with a big knife in close quarters like a bus.

These ######s talking about how a few of the passengers could have ganged up to disarm him. Right. Were they supposed to form a circle around him in the back of a bus? Start climbing over seats to surround a guy going mental with a rambo knife?

Seriously, some of the commenters need a good slap upside the head. I guess they would have preferred a massacre, because that what it would have been if the passengers would have attacked. One by one as they came at the knife guy, they'd start piling up the bodies in the bus aisle.

No kidding. The guy had already taken 5 stabs to the neck. Very good chance that he was dead before everyone would have a chance to subdue the attacker.

I would have also ran off the bus. If the attacker started attacking a number of people instead of focusing on one person it might have been different. But while the attacker was focusing on one person, everone had enough time to get off the bus and subsequently trap the attacker in the bus.

After the initial attack, there is no way this could have worked out better.

As far as the victim goes, from the sounds of things he was a good guy. RIP!

[koop]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Im putting my money on gang connections. like this just doesnt happen out of nowhere. I hate playing the race card, but a big Asian (from Edmonton), gets on at rural stop bound for Winnipeg. (Perhaps less scrutiny and witnesses beforehand there, or less chance of victim figuring something out).

People who go crazy and random attack don't just decide to buy a bus ticket, wait around, and get on and attack with a knife. They grab the closest weapon and have at 'er in a rage.
I don't see how this is anything other than premeditated and Im shocked he's being charged with 2nd degree and not first.

I don't think you can use logic when it comes to something like this, because there is nothing logical about it. No explanation will ever make sense of something like this. The original video link is now saying that they have witness reports that the body was cannibalized while he was locked inside the bus. That doesn't sound like a gang thing to me.

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I am blown away by all the people that are calling the rest of the passengers cowards. I'd like to meet some of these monday morning quarterbacks and see them disarm a big guy with a big knife in close quarters like a bus.

These ######s talking about how a few of the passengers could have ganged up to disarm him. Right. Were they supposed to form a circle around him in the back of a bus? Start climbing over seats to surround a guy going mental with a rambo knife?

Seriously, some of the commenters need a good slap upside the head. I guess they would have preferred a massacre, because that what it would have been if the passengers would have attacked. One by one as they came at the knife guy, they'd start piling up the bodies in the bus aisle.

This.
Not only would it be a stupid way to put your life at risk but you're going to risk a whole lot more lives if you try to attack him. If you try to take him down you've likely blocked the aisle and escape of everyone behind you on the bus.

So now to 'man up' and try to look like a hero you're not only risking your life but the lives of everyone you're preventing from getting off. Also, ganging up on the guy in a small cramped bus with you not knowing what anyone else is going to do = LOL!

[Ozy_Flame]

Vincent Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton, has been charged with second degree murder.

Saw a picture of him on the news - he wasn't bald, he had hair, and apparently he wasn't even that large of a guy.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf3

This.
Not only would it be a stupid way to put your life at risk but you're going to risk a whole lot more lives if you try to attack him. If you try to take him down you've likely blocked the aisle and escape of everyone behind you on the bus.

So now to 'man up' and try to look like a hero you're not only risking your life but the lives of everyone you're preventing from getting off. Also, ganging up on the guy in a small cramped bus with you not knowing what anyone else is going to do = LOL!

Personally I think the passengers were brave enough for having the composure and taking the time to lock the door behind them. Imagine a guy is running at you with a knife. Taking those extra few seconds to lock the bus door behind you when you could be running for you life takes a lot of guts.

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by blankall

Personally I think the passengers were brave enough for having the composure and taking the time to lock the door behind them. Imagine a guy is running at you with a knife. Taking those extra few seconds to lock the bus door behind you when you could be running for you life takes a lot of guts.

exactly. the passangers and driver did everything right given the situation.

[jrhyme]

Here is an article with a picture of the attacker.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-4799431c.html

Sounds like the victim was a nice guy...what a terrible tragedy, RIP.