We just lost a large chunk of ice

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

The world is going to change. Mankind will adapt. Mankind will survive. What's the big deal.

We've only been here for a fraction of a percent of the history of life on this planet, not to mention it's entire geological and meteorological history.

Your two statements seem to contradict each other. What makes you so sure the human race will survive, when we have only been on earth for a small fraction of the earth's history?

[Nufy]

I don't have near enough Rum for all that ice........

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

The world is going to change. Mankind will adapt. Mankind will survive. What's the big deal.

We've only been here for a fraction of a percent of the history of life on this planet, not to mention it's entire geological and meteorological history.

I highly doubt mankind will survive. We'll evolve maybe, like other species, but no species has survived very long on this planet in terms of its geological history. The statistical evidence on the average duration of a given species doesn't bode well for us, and I don't think so highly of humans as to think we can buck the trend through intellect or will, neither of which I personally feel have much impact on the planet, again in terms of its geological age.

I wish people would wake up and realize how insignificant humans are. So pompus to assume the changes we are noticing in the planet are entirely our doing.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I think one of the reasons behind global warming denial and human global warming denial is the media.

Another reason for that denial is if it does happen to be true, we might have to start considering the radical-left ideas of "conserving" and "not wasting so much" and "pollution is not good" as not so crazy after all.

Our forefathers didn't have to worry about this hippie nonsense like "don't waste gas" and "save money", so why should we? Healthy drinking water? Cheap food? My grandpa would roll over in his grave if he knew we worried about this kinda crap.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

I highly doubt mankind will survive. We'll evolve maybe, like other species, but no species has survived very long on this planet in terms of its geological history. The statistical evidence on the average duration of a given species doesn't bode well for us, and I don't think so highly of humans as to think we can buck the trend through intellect or will, neither of which I personally feel have much impact on the planet, again in terms of its geological age.

I wish people would wake up and realize how insignificant humans are. So pompus to assume the changes we are noticing in the planet are entirely our doing.

To play devils advocate - I'd say sharks are probably the species that has survived the longest on this planet. You should ask them who's winning the Shark vs. Human war!

Humans FTW!!!!

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by troutman

Your two statements seem to contradict each other. What makes you so sure the human race will survive, when we have only been on earth for a small fraction of the earth's history?

We have intelligence and technology. Dinosaurs couldn't build themselves bunkers, clone themselves, travel to the moon. Humans can.

We've still evolving, but very slowly...but our intelligence trumps the forces of nature if we prepare properly. Maybe during the Cold War really really could have wiped out ourselves but if global warming is all that we're fighting, we'll adapt and survive for another few hundred years. Something catostrophic like the Day After Tomorrow is not going to happen.

Humankind will always survive in some manner. There is a huge storage site in Iceland with samples of every seed known to botony. Humans will live on in bunkers, in a few hundred years, we might have some colonies in space. We've only been here a fraction of a percent of the history of life...but in that short time, we've taken over the planet (despite discovering how to destroy it) and have even escaped it's gravity. We're the architects of both our own survival and destruction.

[badnarik]

In twenty years the water might be over my head, and I will drown. Do you guys think i have time to move?

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Humankind will always survive in some manner. There is a huge storage site in Iceland with samples of every seed known to botony. Humans will live on in bunkers, in a few hundred years, we might have some colonies in space. We've only been here a fraction of a percent of the history of life...but in that short time, we've taken over the planet and have even escaped it's gravity. We're the architects of both our own survival and destruction.

Wouldn't it be something if the Borg were actually created by the CIA and come 300 years we've all been assimilated?

[Gozer]

So if the ice goes into the ocean, won't it will cool the water - leading to global cooling?

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Another reason for that denial is if it does happen to be true, we might have to start considering the radical-left ideas of "conserving" and "not wasting so much" and "pollution is not good" as not so crazy after all.

Our forefathers didn't have to worry about this hippie nonsense like "don't waste gas" and "save money", so why should we? Healthy drinking water? Cheap food? My grandpa would roll over in his grave if he knew we worried about this kinda crap.

I think that nobody takes exception to any of those phrases in quotations, but keep in mind those are ends and goals not means of getting there. I think that a caution that one would have is that a lot of left of center politicians are using these ends as justification for seizing the means of production and granting more government control of the economy (Which was their agenda prior to climate change hysteria anyway). Those are bad things which has played itself repeatedly in communist and socialist countries throughout the 20th Century. I don't think anyone is 'for more pollution,' but rather would like to see solutions that don't involve bulldozing industry, nationalizing anything, or using carbon tax revenues to fund new social programs and income redistribution schemes.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Gozer

So if the ice goes into the ocean, won't it will cool the water - leading to global cooling?

[Gozer]

Will a paper-bag touque protect me from global cooling?

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Gozer

Will a paper-bag touque protect me from global cooling?

No man, just head to Chinook mall and have a touque made at headquarters with the paper-bag smiley as a logo.

Hey! Wait a minute....

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Another reason for that denial is if it does happen to be true, we might have to start considering the radical-left ideas of "conserving" and "not wasting so much" and "pollution is not good" as not so crazy after all.

Our forefathers didn't have to worry about this hippie nonsense like "don't waste gas" and "save money", so why should we? Healthy drinking water? Cheap food? My grandpa would roll over in his grave if he knew we worried about this kinda crap.

See, I think global warming (human caused or not) is irrelevant. Those concepts are all worthy of action without the global warming debate. It doesn't matter if we have caused it or contributed to it or to what extent. These ideas are GOOD ideas on their own and should be part of policy.

That's why I've stopped arguing about it. In truth, I tend to think that the human contribution to global warming is probably greatly overstated. Completely irrelevant.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

We have intelligence and technology. Dinosaurs couldn't build themselves bunkers, clone themselves, travel to the moon. Humans can.

We've still evolving, but very slowly...but our intelligence trumps the forces of nature if we prepare properly. Maybe during the Cold War really really could have wiped out ourselves but if global warming is all that we're fighting, we'll adapt and survive for another few hundred years. Something catostrophic like the Day After Tomorrow is not going to happen.

Humankind will always survive in some manner. There is a huge storage site in Iceland with samples of every seed known to botony. Humans will live on in bunkers, in a few hundred years, we might have some colonies in space. We've only been here a fraction of a percent of the history of life...but in that short time, we've taken over the planet (despite discovering how to destroy it) and have even escaped it's gravity. We're the architects of both our own survival and destruction.

A comet could wipe us out in an instant. A nuclear war could make us extinct.

I agree that the future of mankind requires us going to the stars. Earth will ultimately be vaporized when our sun goes supernova.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by Nufy

I don't have near enough Rum for all that ice........

Larf ... now that's showing a practical grasp of the situation. And what about Coke? Mix is going to cost a fortune!

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Gozer

Will a paper-bag touque protect me from global cooling?

No, but a full paper bag mask will protect you from wearing an oilers jersey

[Jason14h]

"I for one welcome our Global Warming Ice Destructing Overlords!"

[photon]

Originally Posted by troutman

Earth will ultimately be vaporized when our sun goes supernova.

What do we do when the atoms themselves are torn apart by the rapid expansion of the universe?? What THEN!!!?

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by photon

What do we do when the atoms themselves are torn apart by the rapid expansion of the universe?? What THEN!!!?

We'll cope. Humans are smarter than atoms.