Skills Debate

[Azure]

Sweet, we can have rep wars too.

Me and Rifleman will show everyone how its done.

On a more serious side, no you probably don't want to open up the skill to everyone, given what I've experienced with other boards. But, what I think would help would be to add more people onto the list of those who can give rep. Jiri said there is too few given out, and I don't think thats good.

And on the other hand, people should be reporting good posts more often. I know it works, because I've reported good posts at least a dozen times, and came back the next day and that poster had either a red square, or his blue one was taken away.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Azure

Sweet, we can have rep wars too.

Me and Rifleman will show everyone how its done.

On a more serious side, no you probably don't want to open up the skill to everyone, given what I've experienced with other boards. But, what I think would help would be to add more people onto the list of those who can give rep. Jiri said there is too few given out, and I don't think thats good.
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Actually you misunderstood - I meant very posts are nominated by regular posters for skill - collectively we still hand out a lot - but we don't get many reported for skill. Would love to get more.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Actually you misunderstood - I meant very posts are nominated by regular posters for skill - collectively we still hand out a lot - but we don't get many reported for skill. Would love to get more.

Ah, okay.

Might help to put a sticky on top of every forum. Let everyone know how they can nominate good posts.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Actually you misunderstood - I meant very posts are nominated by regular posters for skill - collectively we still hand out a lot - but we don't get many reported for skill. Would love to get more.

To be totally honest, monitoring the board for good and bad posts and handing out points sounds like yeoman's work to me. This is a huge board, and mods can't be everywhere at once, so I think you guys are doing a bang-up job. If a few people feel that they're being treated unfairly, so be it--on balance there has been a much greater sense of civility around here, and more posters are taking care to be cogent and thorough rather than messy and flippant which is the usual way people treat message boards. I like that.

And I think the skill system is responsible for that. I like how when a skill point is awarded, there's a brief explanation--and knowing what makes a good post, I don't need the "reward" every time, I just treat it as a guideline to help me contribute in a positive way in the future.

I guess what I'm saying is I like the skills system, and I think the mods are doing a fantastic job. It really has changed the culture around here for the better (not that it wasn't already first rate!). Sure, there are a few trolls and new people who don't know how things are done around here--but the regulars are a large group with diverse views who express those views well, by and large.

(Except Azure. I hate that guy! )

[photon]

I think that's the hardest part of the skill system; the size of the board. So many posts go unread that would be good for skill.

It's easy to see the negative ones and hand out the negative skill, but I know there are a number of people "in the blue" that probably deserve better, and general solid posts should get good skill from time to time, not just the outstanding ones.

It's difficult to do though, in general when I'm browsing around reading a good thread I often just enjoy the thread and forget to hand out good skill, but when I see a dumbass post it's easy to think "that deserves a negative".

Then I realize and then go on a positive skill spree

[Azure]

I hate having to wait 60 seconds between reporting posts.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by photon

I think that's the hardest part of the skill system; the size of the board. So many posts go unread that would be good for skill.

It's easy to see the negative ones and hand out the negative skill, but I know there are a number of people "in the blue" that probably deserve better, and general solid posts should get good skill from time to time, not just the outstanding ones.

It's difficult to do though, in general when I'm browsing around reading a good thread I often just enjoy the thread and forget to hand out good skill, but when I see a dumbass post it's easy to think "that deserves a negative".

Then I realize and then go on a positive skill spree

You're drunk with power, aren't you? Admit it. You're feeling the rush right now.

[photon]

Wheee!

Actually I'd probably be a belligerent drunk....

C'mere and shay that... *hic*

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by photon

C'mere and shay that... *hic*

And there you have it, kids. Don't drink and skill.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Azure

I hate having to wait 60 seconds between reporting posts.

Always the teacher's pet.



That's why you and I will always be enemies. In the end, there can be only one.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Always the teacher's pet.



That's why you and I will always be enemies. In the end, there can be only one.

[Finner]

Why don't you institute a system where everybody can vote on skills, but you only get one vote per day, and say hypothetically, a person needs 100 votes (on any or all of their posts) to raise there skill or lower there skill by 1 "box".

That way if its a great post and 30 vote on it, and the next week the user posts another great post and it gets 70 positive votes, they jump up a level. The system simply keeps track of how many votes, 200 would be 2 boxes, -200 would be 2 negative boxes.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Finner

Why don't you institute a system where everybody can vote on skills, but you only get one vote per day, and say hypothetically, a person needs 100 votes (on any or all of their posts) to raise there skill or lower there skill by 1 "box".

That way if its a great post and 30 vote on it, and the next week the user posts another great post and it gets 70 positive votes, they jump up a level. The system simply keeps track of how many votes, 200 would be 2 boxes, -200 would be 2 negative boxes.

That would be a good system.

Or something like slashdot, where people randomly get anointed with the ability to give a few skill points, but can't give them out in threads they're taking part in. And other people are randomly chosen to evaluate the skill given to judge if that skill is accurate or not, and people that are voted as giving inaccurate skill are less likely to randomly receive the ability in the future.

The problem is with those systems is that they're easy to think up, difficult to implement. We're limited by the forum software so if we wanted to do something like that, someone would have to code it as a plugin for vBulletin.

[Azure]

What about a system where you have limited rep to give out, but each time you do, it has to be reviewed by the mods before it is processed?

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Azure

What about a system where you have limited rep to give out, but each time you do, it has to be reviewed by the mods before it is processed?

That sounds like even more work for our mods, TBQH.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

That sounds like even more work for our mods, TBQH.

True.

Maybe select a group of about 10-15 people that the mods trust to be fair, and allow them to approve the rep points given out by all the posters here on CP.

I mean, all they'd have to do is check a basic 'yes-no' box after reading what the post that the rep was handed out for.

[ricosuave]

I like the idea, and think that anyone with a 'Franchise Player' level should be allowed to do it.

How many posters are there on the board like that?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

I like the idea, and think that anyone with a 'Franchise Player' level should be allowed to do it.

How many posters are there on the board like that?

I wouldn't do it based on post count, rather on how long you've been here.

IFF isn't a franchise player yet, and he is someone I would tend to think would be pretty fair in that regard.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Azure

What about a system where you have limited rep to give out, but each time you do, it has to be reviewed by the mods before it is processed?

That's pretty much what nominating a post for rep is isn't it?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by photon

That's pretty much what nominating a post for rep is isn't it?

It is, yes.

I'm just thinking out loud of an idea that might get more 'regular' posters involved in 'repping' people.