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Old 06-17-2008, 01:54 PM   #1
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Holy... this is crazy! Scientists are saying there are Earth-like planets for every3 stars!

http://www.canada.com/topics/technol...3-87aee2d1eb13

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The planets are bigger than Earth -- one is 4.2 times the mass, one is 6.7 times and the third is 9.4 times.
They orbit their star at extremely rapid speeds -- one whizzing around in just four days, compared with Earth's 365 days, one taking 10 days and the slowest taking 20 days.

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Old 06-17-2008, 01:57 PM   #2
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"Earth like" is a fairly general term. These new planets found are far too hot to support any form of life....that we know of that is.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:57 PM   #3
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Extra Solar planets are being discovered at an amazing rate.

Finally, poor old demoted Pluto gets some love:

http://www.planetary.org/news/2008/0...mends_for.html

Now, in an apparent effort to assuage angry Pluto supporters, the IAU has decided to honor the former planet with a new distinction: Dwarf planets, at least those residing at the edge of the solar system beyond the orbit of Neptune, will henceforth be known as "plutoids."
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:59 PM   #5
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This news could impact the Drake Equation (increasing ne):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

The Drake equation states that:

where:
N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which we might hope to be able to communicate;
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R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy
fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:01 PM   #6
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I wonder if the women on these earths have superboobies.
Yeah, and super junk in the trunk to go along with them.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #7
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I wonder if the women on these earths have superboobies.
Or 3 like in Total Recall

Ahh to be 13 again
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #8
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Here's a good overview

http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2...-super-earths/
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:08 PM   #9
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I recall reading in Technology Review an interesting article about the possibility of a galactic "filter" for intelligent life.

The gist of it is that since most of the universe is older than us, one would expect that if intelligent space faring life existed elsewhere it would have come into contact with us. Life on this plant typically expands very rapidly into every available niche. The supposition is that life advanced enough to colonize other worlds wouldn't stop with just their own solar system, and would rapidly fill the universe.

The alternatives are that it has chosen not to, is unrecognizable to us, or that there is some sort of "filter" that at a certain stage wipes out all technologically advanced societies.

I.e. they discover something they try to use that causes the destruction of the entire species.

The thrust of the article was that we should really really be hoping that life has never existed elsewhere. Because that would mean we are the most advanced life in the universe, and the filter if it exists is most likely behind us.

If advanced life does exist, and it wiped itself out, it would mean that the filter is probably ahead of us. And since we are now a space faring species it is probably rapidly approaching ("rapidly" in geologic terms anyway).

I'm not doing the article justice here, but it was a very interesting piece of food for thought.

EDIT - here is the link. Registration is free. Where Are They? Why I hope the search for extraterrestrial life finds nothing- Nick Bostrom

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From these two facts it follows that the evolutionary path to life-forms capable of space colonization leads through a "Great Filter," which can be thought of as a probability barrier. (I borrow this term from Robin Hanson, an economist at George Mason University.) The filter consists of one or more evolutionary transitions or steps that must be traversed at great odds in order for an Earth-like planet to produce a civilization capable of exploring distant solar systems. You start with billions and billions of potential germination points for life, and you end up with a sum total of zero extraterrestrial civilizations that we can observe. The Great Filter must therefore be sufficiently powerful--which is to say, passing the critical points must be sufficiently improbable--that even with many billions of rolls of the dice, one ends up with nothing: no aliens, no spacecraft, no signals. At least, none that we can detect in our neck of the woods.

Now, just where might this Great Filter be located? There are two possibilities: It might be behind us, somewhere in our distant past. Or it might be ahead of us, somewhere in the decades, centuries, or millennia to come. Let us ponder these possibilities in turn.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:11 PM   #10
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So does the NHL expand there before they do Southern Ontario or Winnipeg?
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:12 PM   #11
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This little book nicely summarizes all the arguments for/against intelligent life in the universe:

Are We Alone (Paperback)
by Paul Davies (Author)

http://www.amazon.ca/Are-We-Alone-Pa...733571&sr=1-29

From Publishers Weekly
This bite-size volume for the nonscientist reviews fact and speculation concerning the possible existence of extraterrestrial life. In the process, Davies (The Mind of God) explores metaphysical arguments and attitudes that would be affected by discovery of other life. A physicist, natural philosopher and winner of the 1995 Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion, he presents an approach that is broad and inquiring, not dogmatic. In clear and comfortable prose, he renders some deep thoughts in terms of simple, intuitive concepts, with many effective references to relevant theology, philosophy and science fiction as well as natural science. Contents include a sketch of NASA's current search program (SETI) and a survey of the vested viewpoints at risk. An intriguing chapter considers the nature of consciousness (distinguished from intelligence) as it may exist in the universe. Davies concludes that boundaries between religious and scientific facets of the topic may be illusory.

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Old 06-17-2008, 02:26 PM   #12
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As stated, these super earths are being discovered more and more often. Problem being, we find these planets throught the wobble they create orbiting the star. Which means that they need to be fairly massive in the first place for us to detect them.

The fact that these planets are much more massive than the earth, have an extremely close and therefore hot and short orbit makes them not very nice planets to visit.

A planet needs to be in the Goldilocks zone, where it's not too hot and not too cold. Being 1000 degrees on this planet means that all the water has boiled and evaporated away, meaning there probably isn't much life there.

Find a planet where the average temperature is 15 or 20 degrees, and it might be a place worth visiting.
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:57 PM   #13
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So does the NHL expand there before they do Southern Ontario or Winnipeg?
Awesome. +1
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:28 PM   #14
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Find a planet where the average temperature is 15 or 20 degrees, and it might be a place worth visiting.
I would rather it be 25-30 degC if there are superboobies. You know, the Summertime Stephen Ave effect.
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