Pope Passes away

[calf]

Originally posted by stamps@Apr 2 2005, 10:14 PM
We should celebrate our Holy Father and Christianity's most important figure,

agreed. He was a very important man, very influential, and will be missed

..but without getting into a big religious debate, you might want to clarify your post a bit

and be thankful the Pope, as God's representitive on earth, upholds the true teachings of the Bible.....

No disrespect to your religion (I assume) intended, but I'm sure you mean upholds the teachings of the Roman Catholic interpritation of the Bible.

if Christianity was left to the Jimmy Swaggards and Queen Elizabeths of this world Christanity would lose all meaning and fade away ....

I would disagree with that. People follow what they believe and have faith in. There are many different interpritations of the Bible - and all have their pros and cons. All follow (or try to) the teachings of Christ - to say that Christianity, if people followed other interpritations, would lose meaning is quite arrogant of you.

[Papa Gino]

RIP PJPII

[Cowperson]

A fair commentary on the challenges the next Pope will be addressing and what the priorities might or might not be. . . . . and the gaps left by the departing Pope . . . . Poverty, Islam and technology will be issues says the New York Times.

The rich nations pose one set of concerns: the Roman Catholic Church is withering in Europe, the continent that once supplied it with priests, cathedrals and intellect, while in the United States, the church is self-consciously struggling to make its message relevant in a materialistic society where even religion is market driven.

The poorer countries pose a different set of concerns: in Latin America, home to 4 of every 10 Catholics in the world, priests say they cannot compete effectively with the exuberant, proliferating evangelical and Pentecostal churches. In Africa and Asia, growing Catholic populations often live uneasily among Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists.

The Roman Catholic Church is, more than ever, a global institution with global problems. With more than one billion members, amounting to half the world's Christians and 17 percent of the world's population, it is the largest and wealthiest religious or charitable institution on the planet.

But the biggest concerns of the new century - the turmoil within the Muslim world and the explosive shift of economic power to India and China - did not draw the focus of John Paul. As he proved, the church's leader is capable of changing the course of history. But the church has to make choices.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/04/internat...artner=homepage

Cowperson

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally posted by transplant99@Apr 1 2005, 12:45 PM
Well either way it is imminent.

He will go down as one of the greatest to ever hold the position IMO. Certainly will be anointed Saint status at some point.

Born and raised in Poland during the depression, living through communism and naziism, had many friends as a youngster than saw their fate end in Auschwitz, visited more countries than any other before him. (129 i think I heard), survived an assassination attempt, debuted the "pope mobile" etc etc...

He embraced people of all religions and, I believe, has paved the way for more understanding between people of all faiths.

I doubt he'll be cannonized as a saint. Part of the criteria is that the person has to have been whitness to (as in a part of) a miracle. As far as I know, the pope doesn't meet that criteria. Certainly he was a pretty holy man, and did a lot of good, but I don't think sainthood is in the cards for him.

[FlamesAddiction]

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What verse? How was it stated?

I don't know. I read it on some regious freak website a while back. Like last year sometime.

Likely some gross misinterpretation by the wingnuts. [/b][/quote]
Here's that site I mentioned.

http://www.666beast.net/

Pretty coo-coo.

[metallicat]

Has Art Bell done that topic yet?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally posted by Bring_Back_Shantz+Apr 4 2005, 01:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bring_Back_Shantz @ Apr 4 2005, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-transplant99@Apr 1 2005, 12:45 PM
Well either way it is imminent.

He will go down as one of the greatest to ever hold the position IMO. Certainly will be anointed Saint status at some point.

Born and raised in Poland during the depression, living through communism and naziism, had many friends as a youngster than saw their fate end in Auschwitz, visited more countries than any other before him. (129 i think I heard), survived an assassination attempt, debuted the "pope mobile" etc etc...

He embraced people of all religions and, I believe, has paved the way for more understanding between people of all faiths.

I doubt he'll be cannonized as a saint. Part of the criteria is that the person has to have been whitness to (as in a part of) a miracle. As far as I know, the pope doesn't meet that criteria. Certainly he was a pretty holy man, and did a lot of good, but I don't think sainthood is in the cards for him. [/b][/quote]
My mistake.

Guess they showed me