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Old 06-10-2008, 11:10 AM   #21
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Interesting that some people think where you went to University still matters. It may matter to some employees, which is their loss....but in my experience and now being in a position to hire, a quality employee usually is a testament to their personality then their school of choice. With few exceptions i suppose, most of your education takes place while you work.

I have had SAIT grads accomplish more then some University grads. That all all came down to character.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:17 AM   #22
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I'm impressed you actually understood what that comment actually meant. My lack of liberal arts training makes me have to read that 5 times over and still not understand it.
LOL... true.

In the interest of honesty, though, I will say that my corollary snide comment about peter12 was attributable only to my electives in the Management faculty. I made sure to take 'Guided by Finances: Smugness 101' and 'I Am A Special Snowflake: Only My World-View Is Possible 300'.
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I don't care about what he took, nor was I making fun of the actual program. I was just saying that it's sort of a standard program you could take anywhere.
gotcha... seemed like a smart-alecky comment but I apologize if I misinterpreted it. I was working 'til late last night so maybe I'm jumpy... my mistake.
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gotcha... seemed like a smart-alecky comment but I apologize if I misinterpreted it. I was working 'til late last night so maybe I'm jumpy... my mistake.
Hey, no problem. We all get cranky. Let's just both elucidate on our respect for liberal arts students everywhere.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:29 AM   #25
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I think you hit the nail on the head right there.

For a bachelors degree people tend not to care where you went to school. It's when you do your masters/phd/etc that people start to really pay attention to the school you went to.
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I chose the U of C, because a) I was lazy and didn't want to apply anywhere else, and b0 I happened to get into Haskayne and am completely glad I did, because if I tried again I'd never get into that faculty... too hard these days, lol.

Working downtown now, I can tell you that where you got your undergrad really doesn't matter one bit. I agree with MelBridgeman, I've seen SAIT students acheive faaaaaar more than me already. It really depends on your personality; however, I've been turned away from some pretty cool jobs because there were people with more impressive resumes.

That's the vicious cycle of a student though; can't get a job because you have no experience, can't get experience because you have no job.

...well, unless you're a geologist or engineer. Then you can command your price.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:08 PM   #27
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I chose the U of C, because a) I was lazy and didn't want to apply anywhere else, and b0 I happened to get into Haskayne and am completely glad I did, because if I tried again I'd never get into that faculty... too hard these days, lol.

Working downtown now, I can tell you that where you got your undergrad really doesn't matter one bit. I agree with MelBridgeman, I've seen SAIT students acheive faaaaaar more than me already. It really depends on your personality; however, I've been turned away from some pretty cool jobs because there were people with more impressive resumes.

That's the vicious cycle of a student though; can't get a job because you have no experience, can't get experience because you have no job.

...well, unless you're a geologist or engineer. Then you can command your price.
That is true, for me i started at a tech startup in technical support, worked my ass off and eventually i offered to do something (actually fix something) that one of our developers did...accomplished it and the client was happy....that is how i worked out of it, sucked it up and started at the bottom of the barrel and than seized my opportunity...ended up starting the professional services department in our company..was able to use that experience to move on to bigger and better things and eventually 7 years after finishing school, i run my own consulting service.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:19 PM   #28
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I find in reading this thread I can inversely correlate my educational stints with how much earning potential each educational milestone.

Bachelor of Arts Degree: Major - History, Minor - Classical Studies
Length of Study: 4 years
Earning Potential: "Would you like fries with that?"

College Diploma: Community Rehabilitation Studies
Length of Study: 2 years
Earning Potential: "Upsize my combo please."

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Based on my own experience, the shorter the time I spent in school the more useful the training was in terms of practical earning potential [sarcasm]Now, I'm going to read a magazine while on the can so I can get a promotion.[/sarcasm]
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Well I'm the exact opposite of everybody here. I live closer to Edmonton and am coming to U of C this year to get away from the family, and because it's not Edmonton.
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:04 PM   #30
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Is it just me or does the whole Engg building remind you of a prison? ...Sure feels like one anyways
Everything from it's dimly lit hallways, barred windows (if you're lucky enough to have a window) and its overall archaic architecture.
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:13 PM   #31
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Recognition and stature. There's a belief that a degree from the UofA will mean more to an employer than one from the UofC.
until you get your first job...

I know people like the UofA because it is "better". But after about a year out of school and you have a job no one will probably ever care again.
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I find in reading this thread I can inversely correlate my educational stints with how much earning potential each educational milestone.

Bachelor of Arts Degree: Major - History, Minor - Classical Studies
Length of Study: 4 years
Earning Potential: "Would you like fries with that?"

College Diploma: Community Rehabilitation Studies
Length of Study: 2 years
Earning Potential: "Upsize my combo please."

Fast Track Certificate - Process Piping Design
Length of Study: 7 months
Earning Potential: "Steaks and Cognac for all my friends!"


Based on my own experience, the shorter the time I spent in school the more useful the training was in terms of practical earning potential [sarcasm]Now, I'm going to read a magazine while on the can so I can get a promotion.[/sarcasm]
LOL, so true. Although, if you know ANYTHING technical, you're guaranteed good money somewhere. Sigh, I'm in the wrong city... I'm technically illiterate! (literally)...

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Old 06-10-2008, 02:25 PM   #33
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I find in reading this thread I can inversely correlate my educational stints with how much earning potential each educational milestone.

Bachelor of Arts Degree: Major - History, Minor - Classical Studies
Length of Study: 4 years
Earning Potential: "Would you like fries with that?"

College Diploma: Community Rehabilitation Studies
Length of Study: 2 years
Earning Potential: "Upsize my combo please."

Fast Track Certificate - Process Piping Design
Length of Study: 7 months
Earning Potential: "Steaks and Cognac for all my friends!"


Based on my own experience, the shorter the time I spent in school the more useful the training was in terms of practical earning potential [sarcasm]Now, I'm going to read a magazine while on the can so I can get a promotion.[/sarcasm]
Not to extend this diversion from the OP's original question, but would you say your first two programs were a waste of time?
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #34
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I am a Calgarian who went to UofA for Education, for a couple of reasons:

1. The UofA is more highly regarded for that program than the UofC is, and you also finish in less time.

2. I started University when I was 21, so wanting to be away from home was a definite factor.

I lived on-campus in Pembina Hall and HUB Mall. I made some lifelong friends in Pembina and always make a point to visit the University when I am up in Edmonton. It was a great four years of my life.
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I am a Calgarian who went to UofA for Education, for a couple of reasons:

1. The UofA is more highly regarded for that program than the UofC is, and you also finish in less time.

2. I started University when I was 21, so wanting to be away from home was a definite factor.
strange that was a reason considering that in education years in university is directly correlated the where you fit in on the salary grid.

and considering that the U of L ED program is more highly regarded than both U of C and U of A
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I am a Calgarian who went to UofA for Education, for a couple of reasons:

1. The UofA is more highly regarded for that program than the UofC is, and you also finish in less time.

2. I started University when I was 21, so wanting to be away from home was a definite factor.

I lived on-campus in Pembina Hall and HUB Mall. I made some lifelong friends in Pembina and always make a point to visit the University when I am up in Edmonton. It was a great four years of my life.
Hurrah for teachers with less education.
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I'm at the UofA right now, I'm here because the Education program is supposed to be superior here than the one offered at the UofC. I love the UofA, great campus(and you'd be surprised about how many Flames jerseys you see around campus, especially during playoff time). In the last MacLean's university rankings magazine, they had UofA ranked over-all as the 3rd best university in the country.
You're not going to see any Oilers jerseys during the playoffs for a long, long, time.

As for UofA vs UofC, I went to the U of C for Haskayne, pure and simple, I couldnt afford to go to school out of town as I wanted to get my degree without incurring any debt, which I did, and the Business faculty is rated quite highly.
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You're not going to see any Oilers jerseys during the playoffs for a long, long, time.

As for UofA vs UofC, I went to the U of C for Haskayne, pure and simple, I couldnt afford to go to school out of town as I wanted to get my degree without incurring any debt, which I did, and the Business faculty is rated quite highly.
Ah, a fellow business brother! When did you graduate from Haskayne?
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You're not going to see any Oilers jerseys during the playoffs for a long, long, time.
You'll see the oilers in the playoffs next year
Anyway, playoff hockey during final exams were always killer nights for me
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What a varied and superior program... I can honestly say that a derivation of that has to be offered at any school with a liberal arts program.
I don't mean this as a jab at you personally, but it's hard to take anyone seriously when they use the phrase "liberal arts".

It's a Bachelor of "ARTS". There is no liberal in there.

It's almost as bad as referring to the Arts programs as "Social Sciences", or the "soft Sciences". History is not exact enough to be a science, and sociology is pretty much hit and miss despite a dogged determination to apply methodological models to human behavior. Either it's science or it's not. Wish they'd figure that out already.

But yeah, as I stated above. Avoid UofC if you want a decent Arts program.
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