05-29-2008, 01:27 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Eddie Bronze
Looking for a little guidance in connecting my old hdd to my new computer. Not looking for it to be a permanent thing, just to move some files. Hooked it up to the motherboard with an IDE cable as the slave drive. Cpu gives me a blue screen telling me to disconnect any new hard drives when I go to boot up.
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Did you get an AMD or Intel system? Most likely what is happening is that the system is refusing the HDD to be connected as slave and it must be in master mode to boot any further. (Setting it to master is ok, as you should be going into your bios to set the boot drive to the SATA drive that's included in the system)
What settings to change may differ depending on which Processor you chose, as the included motherboard will be configured differently depending on whether you got an Intel or AMD based motherboard. Easiest way would be to post the model type of the board, which the user manual should have been included with with the system. (In your accesories, either included in the actual motherboard box itself, or if you got one of the pre-builts, in the long brown box that's packed in with the system that contains all the other parts that are useless to fit into the system, but should be included anyways since it's a carryover of past practices.)
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05-29-2008, 06:10 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Last edited by Eddie Bronze; 05-29-2008 at 06:40 AM.
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05-29-2008, 09:16 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Change the jumper on your old HDD to cable select and don't worry ever again about the master/slave BS. There should be 3 jumpers labeled Master, Slave, and Cable Select (M/S/CS) either near the jumper itself or on a label somewhere on the drive top or circuit board. If not it should be pretty easy to google the jumper configuration for your drive based on make and model.Make sure that the correct boot drive is selected in BIOS or it may try to boot off of your old drive instead of the new one.
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05-29-2008, 09:19 AM
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#24
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Is your old drive IDE, or SATA?
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05-29-2008, 11:05 AM
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#25
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Is your old drive IDE, or SATA?
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^OP indicated that drive was IDE.
Bios configuration will have to be set as most likely the board is detecting the IDE drive first, and booting that, than the SATA drive.
the F2 key after post will get into the bios, or just spam the f2 key immediately after the system is turned on.
Once the bios is entered, select boot options, and confirm that the first hdd to be booted is the SATA. (If it is, then I have no idea, and it will be faster and easier to just get a IDE USB enclosure and just use the drive as an external.)
and for those interested, the board included on the system that Eddie quoted is the intel D945GCNL
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05-29-2008, 11:48 AM
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliche
^OP indicated that drive was IDE.
Bios configuration will have to be set as most likely the board is detecting the IDE drive first, and booting that, than the SATA drive.
the F2 key after post will get into the bios, or just spam the f2 key immediately after the system is turned on.
Once the bios is entered, select boot options, and confirm that the first hdd to be booted is the SATA. (If it is, then I have no idea, and it will be faster and easier to just get a IDE USB enclosure and just use the drive as an external.)
and for those interested, the board included on the system that Eddie quoted is the intel D945GCNL
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Sorry, I was thinking about the issue and scanned that post, but yeah - that was what I was thinking of - the boot order.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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05-29-2008, 06:34 PM
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Franchise Player
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Cliche,
I did as you said and sure enough, it has the old hdd set to boot first. Unfortunately when I enter the sub menu to edit it so the SATA drive will be first, it won't let me make the change.
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05-30-2008, 05:15 AM
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#28
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bronze
Cliche,
I did as you said and sure enough, it has the old hdd set to boot first. Unfortunately when I enter the sub menu to edit it so the SATA drive will be first, it won't let me make the change.
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Odd, the instructions for setting the HDD boot indicate that that you just have to highlight the drive that you want to boot first and press enter to change it.
Otherwise, one of the other options is to make sure the boot menu type is on Advance and not Normal
The other menu option to change would be 1st hdd and to make sure that indicates the SATA drive and not the IDE.
Other than that, it boils down to going through maybe the Advanced menu and changing the options under drive configuration, but that shouldn't be the case, as tweaking the boot options was what usually worked in the past.
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05-30-2008, 06:53 PM
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Franchise Player
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I changed the boot menu type to advanced, still not allowing me to make the change to the SATA drive.
Not sure where to look for other menu options to select the 1st hdd. I looked around in there and couldn't really find anything else.
Is there any way to physically alter the setup outside of bios? Can the info be accessed and edited in document form via notepad for example?
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So I tried the Advanced menu and really couldn't find any way to change it.
Here is the page with the blue lines being the only editable options.
Advanced
Drive Config
Use Auto Mode <Enable>
ATA/IDE Mode <Native>
S.M.A.R.T. <Enable>
SATA Port 0 (new hdd)
SATA Port 1 Not Installed
SATA Port 2 Not Installed
SATA Port 3 TSSTcorp CDDVDW - ATAPI 1
Primary Channel <Enable>
Primary Master (old hdd)
Primary Slave Not Installed
Hard Disk Pre Delay [0]
When I switched Use Auto Mode to Disable one more option appeared:
Use Serial ATA <Enable>
Last edited by Eddie Bronze; 05-30-2008 at 07:13 PM.
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05-31-2008, 01:03 AM
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#30
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bronze
I changed the boot menu type to advanced, still not allowing me to make the change to the SATA drive.
Not sure where to look for other menu options to select the 1st hdd. I looked around in there and couldn't really find anything else.
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It's certainly in there, it might not be under SATA it might be listed as something else. Look at every option that says HDD, boot, or storage. It might be in a sub menu. On my computer, it doesn't matter if they are SATA or IDE. It's all in one menu and I change boot order by pressing +/- to move them up and down. On other computers, you might need to enable SATA instead of SATA RAID. In any case, the first BIOS setup menu, the one where it lists your clock, etc. will usually also have a listing of your harddisks.
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Is there any way to physically alter the setup outside of bios? Can the info be accessed and edited in document form via notepad for example?
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No, that is integral to how your machine boots your OS after posting. You said your computer wouldn't boot windows with the old harddrive attached? If it did boot and it didn't show up in windows you could access it through Disk Management in windows but that doesn't sound like your issue at all.
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**edit**
So I tried the Advanced menu and really couldn't find any way to change it.
Here is the page with the blue lines being the only editable options.
Advanced
Drive Config
Use Auto Mode <Enable>
ATA/IDE Mode <Native>
S.M.A.R.T. <Enable>
SATA Port 0 (new hdd)
SATA Port 1 Not Installed
SATA Port 2 Not Installed
SATA Port 3 TSSTcorp CDDVDW - ATAPI 1
Primary Channel <Enable>
Primary Master (old hdd)
Primary Slave Not Installed
Hard Disk Pre Delay [0]
When I switched Use Auto Mode to Disable one more option appeared:
Use Serial ATA <Enable>
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Why not try turning off auto mode or turning off Primary Channel? If you got the serial ATA option when use auto was off, did it allow you to boot into windows? (leaving use serial ata on since that's where your windows is located). Also, it doesn't hurt to put your IDE into slave although with new computers it shouldn't matter. There are jumpers on the back of it that you need to move to change it to slave mode. If you're really in a bind, go buy a $25 USB harddrive enclosure so you can just hook up your old harddrive via USB. I also don't see anything regarding boot order on that page, you might be in the wrong menu. It's not neccessarily under advanced.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 05-31-2008 at 01:09 AM.
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06-02-2008, 02:08 PM
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#31
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2006
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What would be better would be knowing what menu options are given under the boot menu.
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