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Old 03-31-2005, 08:09 AM   #1
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The New York Times looks at the new movie "Sin City"

If Quentin Tarantino's "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction" shocked audiences with up-close gore, and his "Kill Bill" movies racked up record numbers of spurting arteries and flying body parts, his pal Robert Rodriguez's "Sin City," which opens in 3,300 theaters nationwide tomorrow, may set a new mark for its stomach-churning versatility.

Try this for range: cannibalism, castration, decapitation, dismemberment, electrocution, hanging, massacres, pedophilia, slashings and lots and lots of torture.

"Blood for blood, and by the gallons," vows Mickey Rourke's vengeful character, Marv, in what proves to be no exaggeration.


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Old 03-31-2005, 08:12 AM   #2
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and yet a little nipple causes massive hysteria for months.
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:03 AM   #3
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hey, sex is bad.

violence good!
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hey, sex is bad.

violence good!
True, but it was still just a nipple.

It's a strange world when a nipple is designated as soley an object of sex.
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:39 AM   #5
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I'd highly recommend to anyone interested in this movie to pick up some of the comic books. Absolute literary and artistic brilliance. Comics are so over-looked in North America as being just for kids and not real literature. Sad really.
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I saw Sin City last night, and it was amazing. The artwork and characters were perfect. I have only briefly checked out the comics and the movie is very similar.
I recommend this film, it's surreal. I will be purchasing the DVD when it comes out.
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It's a strange world when a nipple is designated as soley an object of sex.
Ed Helms: "Why do you insist on sexualizing vaginas?"

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Old 03-31-2005, 11:11 AM   #8
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I will definitely be checking it out tomorrow. It looks fantastic.
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This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me. They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed. The only thing missing is Samuel L...
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:21 AM   #10
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I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed.
Why?
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:24 AM   #11
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Flop or not....I'll see it just for Jessica Alba
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:36 AM   #12
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Mar 31 2005, 01:12 PM
This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me. They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed. The only thing missing is Samuel L...
Well at least you're keeping an open mind about it....
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Mar 31 2005, 11:12 AM
This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me. They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed. The only thing missing is Samuel L...
If it's anything like sky captain times 100, I wouldn't watch it.

This movie I will see, because I don't think it will be anything like Sky Captain.
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:14 PM   #14
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I can't wait to check out this movie....too bad i won't have a chance to anytime soon.
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:14 PM   #15
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Yes i have to agree that the comic is AWESOME! The new batman movie coming out later this year is based on Frank Millers Year One story arc from the batman comics so it should be great too. Casting the american psycho as Batman should win someone an oscar!
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:16 PM   #16
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Originally posted by Flames Draft Watcher+Mar 31 2005, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flames Draft Watcher @ Mar 31 2005, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Mar 31 2005, 06:12 PM
I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed.
Why? [/b][/quote]
Ok... why not?

I suppose you'd have to provide me with some examples where the 'all-star' cast concept worked very well (keeping in mind that many movies created 'all-stars' as a result of the movie itself, they weren't stars before the movie).

Examples of star-loaded casts would be Ocean's 11/12, Be Cool, Mars Attacks (ugh), new Star Wars movies to an extent (cue Samuel L).

I much prefer original Star Wars-style casts (mostly no-names, Harrison still wasn't that big) because its easier to actually envisage these people as the 'real' characters.

Every time I see Samuel L saunter on the screen, I think of Die Hard 3, Deep Blue Sea, Loaded Weapon, etc., and I really don't want to think of these things when I'm watching a movie, I'd rather believe he's actually the character he's playing.

Conclusion; I prefer casts where I know almost no one in it. It makes it much easier for me to believe in the fantasy.
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:18 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Neeper+Mar 31 2005, 06:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neeper @ Mar 31 2005, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Mar 31 2005, 11:12 AM
This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me. They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed. The only thing missing is Samuel L...
If it's anything like sky captain times 100, I wouldn't watch it.

This movie I will see, because I don't think it will be anything like Sky Captain. [/b][/quote]
I suppose... I thought Sky Captain was going to be amazing considering the storyline, cast, and technology. Instead, it stank up the screen.

Sin City looks amazing, considering the storyline, cast, technology... this is why I compared it to SkyCaptain in the first place.
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank+Mar 31 2005, 06:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Frank the Tank @ Mar 31 2005, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Mar 31 2005, 01:12 PM
This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me. They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed. The only thing missing is Samuel L...
Well at least you're keeping an open mind about it.... [/b][/quote]
And what... thinking it will be good before seeing it is 'open minded', and thinking it will be bad is 'closed minded'? I don't see how. I just anticipate a different level of quality than you do. I think you're confusing 'open-mindedness' with 'optimistic'.

No, I'm not optimistic about this movie. I wasn't optimistic about Constantine either, but I went and saw it, because I have an open mind, and I liked it.
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Originally posted by Agamemnon+Mar 31 2005, 02:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Mar 31 2005, 02:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me.# They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed.# The only thing missing is Samuel L...

Well at least you're keeping an open mind about it....
And what... thinking it will be good before seeing it is 'open minded', and thinking it will be bad is 'closed minded'? I don't see how. I just anticipate a different level of quality than you do. I think you're confusing 'open-mindedness' with 'optimistic'.

No, I'm not optimistic about this movie. I wasn't optimistic about Constantine either, but I went and saw it, because I have an open mind, and I liked it. [/b][/quote]
When you generalize all comic book movies like you did, that is being close-minded. Then again, I thought Spider-Man 2 would be good, so what the hell do I know?
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank+Mar 31 2005, 07:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Frank the Tank @ Mar 31 2005, 07:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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This looks to me like Sky Captain times ten.

Times ten in scope/cast, times ten in flop-factor.

Something about these comic-book style movies is too cartoony for me.# They even try to 'frame' the scenes in a comic-book fashion.

I think anytime this many stars get loaded into a movie, its doomed.# The only thing missing is Samuel L...

Well at least you're keeping an open mind about it....

And what... thinking it will be good before seeing it is 'open minded', and thinking it will be bad is 'closed minded'? I don't see how. I just anticipate a different level of quality than you do. I think you're confusing 'open-mindedness' with 'optimistic'.

No, I'm not optimistic about this movie. I wasn't optimistic about Constantine either, but I went and saw it, because I have an open mind, and I liked it.
When you generalize all comic book movies like you did, that is being close-minded. Then again, I thought Spider-Man 2 would be good, so what the hell do I know? [/b][/quote]
Well, I suppose I could qualify what I said.

Spiderman 1 and 2, X-Men 1 and 2 were pretty quality flicks, but they were a lot more traditional 'action' movies.

Stuff like Sky Captain, The Hulk, Daredevil seemed a lot more committed to their comic origins, which had different scene cuts and ways to tell the story. Its hard to explain, I could just 'feel' the comic'iness in them, something that wasn't evident in the Spiderman/X-Men movies.
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