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Old 05-26-2008, 09:29 PM   #1041
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Maybe one of the best political commentaries I've ever seen:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...98368#24798368
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:41 AM   #1042
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Delegate update!

Total Delegates:

Clinton 1782
Obama 1981 (199 ahead)


Pledged Delegates:

Clinton 1499
Obama 1661 (162 ahead)


Superdelegates:

Clinton 283
Obama 320 (37 ahead)
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:23 PM   #1043
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:11 AM   #1044
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Delgar funny video but, wouldn't it be more appropriate if the subject was Al Gore? After all he lost an election but, struggled to concede. In Hilliary's case the votes haven't been counted.
I can't see what harm there would be in even her waiting for the convention and losing in a real vote.
If I was a Democrat I'd even perfer her to do that. Imagine if something comes along between now and the convention that ruins Obama's chances to be elected President. The Super-delegates could shift back to her and still give the Republicans a run for their money. If she has already conceded it will make her appear like a loser who has been handed the nomination by default instead of a fighter.
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Delgar funny video but, wouldn't it be more appropriate if the subject was Al Gore? After all he lost an election but, struggled to concede. In Hilliary's case the votes haven't been counted.
I can't see what harm there would be in even her waiting for the convention and losing in a real vote..
The reason the video is funny is because it makes fun of Hillary trying to change what she agreed to (i.e. the rules) after the fact. The video is not about hanging on and hoping to win, but losing, and not accepting it, even if the only way to win is to cheat.

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Old 05-31-2008, 12:58 PM   #1046
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Delgar funny video but, wouldn't it be more appropriate if the subject was Al Gore? After all he lost an election but, struggled to concede. In Hilliary's case the votes haven't been counted.
I can't see what harm there would be in even her waiting for the convention and losing in a real vote.
If I was a Democrat I'd even perfer her to do that. Imagine if something comes along between now and the convention that ruins Obama's chances to be elected President. The Super-delegates could shift back to her and still give the Republicans a run for their money. If she has already conceded it will make her appear like a loser who has been handed the nomination by default instead of a fighter.
Don't want to sidetrack but in Al Gore's case, the votes haven't been counted either much to the shame of American democracy.
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:10 PM   #1047
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Don't want to sidetrack but in Al Gore's case, the votes haven't been counted either much to the shame of American democracy.
Agreed. If anything, Gore conceded way, way too easily. There is no comparison here.... there is no possible way for Hillary to get the numbers to work.

However, on the flip side, all through this dragged out Democratic primaries, John McCain is struggling to find any airtime on TV so I don't think it is all bad for Obama to have this go on a while longer...

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Old 05-31-2008, 01:51 PM   #1048
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Thank you Vulcan & Devil's Advocate for demonstrating my point.

It amazes me that Obama is still seen as a viable canidate considering his connections with black racists. Even with the MSM pretty much giving him a pass I can't see non-black Americans trusting him not to have a hidden agenda. Below is an article that tries to play down the significance of the latest black activist to show his true colours who belongs in Obama's inner circle. Far more interesting than the article is the comments below it made by people writing in:

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...rs-vile-s.html
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:35 PM   #1049
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Thank you Vulcan & Devil's Advocate for demonstrating my point.

It amazes me that Obama is still seen as a viable canidate considering his connections with black racists. Even with the MSM pretty much giving him a pass I can't see non-black Americans trusting him not to have a hidden agenda. Below is an article that tries to play down the significance of the latest black activist to show his true colours who belongs in Obama's inner circle. Far more interesting than the article is the comments below it made by people writing in:

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...rs-vile-s.html
I gotta ask, did you even watch the video or read the accompanying article you posted? The "black activist" is a white Roman Catholic Priest. The article doesn't "play down the significance", it plainly attacks what he said and calls it offensive.
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Thank you Vulcan & Devil's Advocate for demonstrating my point.

It amazes me that Obama is still seen as a viable canidate considering his connections with black racists. Even with the MSM pretty much giving him a pass I can't see non-black Americans trusting him not to have a hidden agenda. Below is an article that tries to play down the significance of the latest black activist to show his true colours who belongs in Obama's inner circle. Far more interesting than the article is the comments below it made by people writing in:

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...rs-vile-s.html
And what point is that? That Bush wasn't legally elected President?

As for Hillary, I have no problem with her going to the convention as she may be able to do some arm twisting on the Democratic platform before conceding or maybe she wants the VP nomination.

That white preacher masquerading as a black racist doesn't amount to a hill of beans, just some guy, nobody has heard of, off on some rant for his 15 minutes of fame.

I haven't heard anything Obama has stated that is racist, in fact that is one his best qualities and I suspect those who are looking too hard to find racism in him, is because they are the racists. Ever heard that old saying, thou protests too much.
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:56 PM   #1051
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I gotta ask, did you even watch the video or read the accompanying article you posted? The "black activist" is a white Roman Catholic Priest. The article doesn't "play down the significance", it plainly attacks what he said and calls it offensive.
Yes I did read/watch both and am aware of the priest's skin colour. The article plays down the significance of the Priest's close association with Obama. The article ignores the obvious problem Obama has with his close association with that racist institution masquerading as a church.

Did you read the comments on the article at the bottom?
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:03 PM   #1052
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I gotta ask, did you even watch the video or read the accompanying article you posted? The "black activist" is a white Roman Catholic Priest. The article doesn't "play down the significance", it plainly attacks what he said and calls it offensive.
It's not a Roamn Catholic priest. The Trinity United Church of Christ is an Evangical Christian denomination (ie. Protestant).
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:03 PM   #1053
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And what point is that? That Bush wasn't legally elected President?
Obviously you take your legal opinions from left-wing bloggers rather than the American Supreme court.

I also understand they have declared the Iraq war illegal even though there has never been any charges laid against Bush or America.
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Obviously you take your legal opinions from left-wing bloggers rather than the American Supreme court.

I also understand they have declared the Iraq war illegal even though there has never been any charges laid against Bush or America.
I don't read any bloggers or magazines or newspapers or attend any church , I arrive at my own opinions, maybe you should try it.
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:19 PM   #1055
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Yes I did read/watch both and am aware of the priest's skin colour. The article plays down the significance of the Priest's close association with Obama. The article ignores the obvious problem Obama has with his close association with that racist institution masquerading as a church.

Did you read the comments on the article at the bottom?
No I didn't read the comments at the bottom of the article. Why would I? What do they ever contribute? They are anonymous, usually illiterate and almost always stupid. It's internet babble and doesn't mean anything. If you think you can take away something from that then go nuts.

Does the priest have a close association with Obama? I've never heard of the guy before. What is this close association?

Considering the nuts McCain has hooked himself too, I don't know why any Republicans would bother even bringing up Obama's religious friends, acquaintances or anything to do with all that, lest the other side do the same thing.
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It amazes me that Obama is still seen as a viable canidate considering his connections with black racists. Even with the MSM pretty much giving him a pass I can't see non-black Americans trusting him not to have a hidden agenda. Below is an article that tries to play down the significance of the latest black activist to show his true colours who belongs in Obama's inner circle. Far more interesting than the article is the comments below it made by people writing in:
Links and Sources or it didn't happen.

Not including your most recent link that has already been raped.
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:21 PM   #1057
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It's not a Roamn Catholic priest. The Trinity United Church of Christ is an Evangical Christian denomination (ie. Protestant).
Well I don't know if he was visiting or what, but Pfleger is a Catholic Priest.

From the Chicago archdiocese....
Statement of Cardinal Francis George concerning remarks of
Fr. Michael Pfleger about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton during
an address at Trinity United Church of Christ on Sunday May 25, 2008

The Catholic Church does not endorse political candidates. Consequently,
while a priest must speak to political issues that are also moral, he may
not endorse candidates nor engage in partisan campaigning.
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:24 PM   #1058
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That white preacher masquerading as a black racist doesn't amount to a hill of beans, just some guy, nobody has heard of, off on some rant for his 15 minutes of fame.
He was on a advisory committee with Obama's campaign until his buddy Rev Wright went down. Barak has given tax payers money(over $100,000) to this priest's organizations. Barak's church of 20 years cheered the racist comment's of this Priest just like they cheered on Wright's racist sermons. Barak's current Pastor heartily thanked the Priest for his racist sermon. Barak has gone on record as calling both of these men mentors in his past. No rational person is going to believe that these sermons are isolated occurences in that church. Likewise, no rational person still believes that Obama isn't aware of the racist beliefs of both his mentors.
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Well I don't know if he was visiting or what, but Pfleger is a Catholic Priest.

From the Chicago archdiocese....
Statement of Cardinal Francis George concerning remarks of
Fr. Michael Pfleger about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton during
an address at Trinity United Church of Christ on Sunday May 25, 2008

The Catholic Church does not endorse political candidates. Consequently,
while a priest must speak to political issues that are also moral, he may
not endorse candidates nor engage in partisan campaigning.
Well OK then.
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Links and Sources or it didn't happen.

Not including your most recent link that has already been raped.
Google is easiy to use:

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid...ichael+Pfleger

This has been on Fox news as well. I suppose the rest of the networks don't see how publishing this story would help their canidate.
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