ok so lemme get this straight. he's deaf, goes riding on a crotch rocket, AND pulls stunts? jesus it's a shame that darwin missed this one
being able to hear is so crucial for safe driving, i can only imagine it's magnified 10 fold when you're on a bike and one stupid driver could mean your death. seems like lunacy for him to be riding to begin with let alone pull stupid crap on the road
Apologies to any anyone offended by when I made this post. It was actually in response to something I saw last night. 7-10 bikers weaving in and out of traffic on Crowchild going at least 150...It was ridiculous. I felt embarrassed to be living in this city at that moment.
20 minutes ago I just had some guy on a bike run a red right in front of me as I was in an advance left lane. I was halfway through the turn, noticed he didnt seem to be slowing for the light, so I braked, and he rode right through 5 feet in front of me doing probably 60. I know if I rode I would sure as hell be expecting every car to run every light/stop sign/entrance in front of me, let alone paying enough attention to stoplights myself. Lucky for him I wasn't quick off the line.
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ok so lemme get this straight. he's deaf, goes riding on a crotch rocket, AND pulls stunts? jesus it's a shame that darwin missed this one
being able to hear is so crucial for safe driving, i can only imagine it's magnified 10 fold when you're on a bike and one stupid driver could mean your death. seems like lunacy for him to be riding to begin with let alone pull stupid crap on the road
The bikers message at the end tells the whole story.....
"To be old and wise you have to be very young and stupid first."
Clearly the guy got the message and won't be doing stunts like that anytime soon.
That said he did have his friend riding beside him sorta acting as his hearing.
When bikers get killed in accidents, it is always so easy to simply assume the biker was doing something stupid, becuase that is usually the case.
I 100% disagree with this stat. A majority of the accidents with bikes are cause by ######ed drivers not paying attention. I don't ride but I want to and I am going to be taking my test at some point this summer. Sure there are some ######s out there but it is not 80%, it is more like 5%. I pass TONS of bikes on my drive to work (Ranchlands to Sundance) and I haven't seen a single wheelie yet.
Just dont give them the courtesy you would other drivers.
Also just think, for every ###### that dies while speeding is one less person that CPP has to pay when they retire.
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I've said it in the past, but I've found that 80% of bikers are aholes. And of those that aren't, 80% of that drive Harleys.
When bikers get killed in accidents, it is always so easy to simply assume the biker was doing something stupid, becuase that is usually the case.
Wow, that is so far off base it isn't even funny.
Boblobla already mentioned it, but the VAST majority of bike accidents are caused by drivers not paying attention and hitting a guy on a bike.
On more than one occasion, I've had people pull out in front of me and I've had to do my best to avoid hitting them, or going for a spill.
Trust me, there is nothing more annoying then going up the hill to my house at 60-70k (the speed limit is 60) and having people pull out to turn left when I'm about 20 yards away.
On one occasion, this exact situation happened and I managed to keep it on two wheels and came to a stop with my leg about 4 inches in front of her headlight.
She rolled down her window and said somewhat appologetically "Oh, sorry, didn't see you there"
To which I replied (in a not very friendly manner) "I know you didn't, because you didn't even Fataing look" then as a courtesy to her, I tested the impact stregth of her bumper with my foot.
This kind of thing happens all the time to just about everyone who rides.
Of all of the people I ride with (and that's quite a few) just about everyone has crashed. Some of those were due to gravel, or other bad road conditions (that's how I bailed) and had nothing to do with stunting, or in my case even speeding, and most were caused by cars not paying close enough attention. Not a single one was caused by stunting, or doing something stupid like weaving in and out of traffic at 100mph.
Turst me, once you've been on a bike, you'll start to realize that when you see an accident, it's probaby a safe assumption that it was caused by someone in a car doing something stupid.
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To me it seems that Motor bikes can do what ever they want. They can drive double the speed limit or faster. They can weave in and out of traffic or drive in between cars. The Harleys can be loud and the rider can rev the snot out of it at 11pm riding through a residential neighborhood.
To me it seems that Motor bikes can do what ever they want. They can drive double the speed limit or faster. They can weave in and out of traffic or drive in between cars. The Harleys can be loud and the rider can rev the snot out of it at 11pm riding through a residential neighborhood.
What about this a-hole that lives behind me that starts his goddamn diesel truck at 5 in the morning and lets it Idle for about 20mins while he gets ready for work? What about the noise pollution from all of the subs? There are far more cars that 'do whatever they want' than bikers.
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I really cannot believe the ignorance of some of these comments.
Agreed.
Seriously, nothing pisses me off more than people with their hollier than thou attitude that think that an effective way of solving the problem of a biker riding in an usafe manner is to make it even more usafe by swerving in front of them or slamming on the brakes.
Serilously, who's the bigger , the guy who is riding at 100mph and endangering himself, or the guy who thinks it's his right/duty, to do something to intentionally endanger someone else in a very direct way?
Granted, the guy on the bike is endangering everyone on the road, but by doing something stupid you're not reducing any risk to anyone on the road (I'd argue you're actually increasing it), and you're certainly increasing the danger to the guy on the bike to a rediculous degree.
If someone's being an ass and riding at 100mph, just keep your distance and don't make the situation any worse, becasue doing something stupid yourself certainly isn't going to make it any better.
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I agree that Bikers are often overlooked by 4 wheel drivers, but that is what makes the "bad" bike drivers more annoying. You know in any collision, no matter who is at fault, you are going to come out on the losing end.
Then why, in the riding season as brief as it has been so far, have I already seen 3 riders driving so dangerously? Maybe that is why it is so annoying - because it is so scary. We know if anything happens we won't just be denting your fender, we may be denting your head.
All the good riders get a bad rap from the bad ones, but it just seems like, from my totally anecdotal experience, there are a larger percentage of dangerous bikers. Or it may be that I just remember them more, since bad car drivers are so frickin' common.
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Wow, that is so far off base it isn't even funny.
Boblobla already mentioned it, but the VAST majority of bike accidents are caused by drivers not paying attention and hitting a guy on a bike
Just my personal observation, YMMV.
There are more than enough idiot car/truck drivers out there, absolutely. That in and of itself is a pretty good reason why morons on bikes shouldn't be making a habit of doing 30 over the limit while weaving through lanes.
And I'm sorry, but on Deerfoot, that describes 80% of the bikers.
So really, how much of the problem is innattentive drivers, and how much is idiots who are weaving so much that when you blink, they've vanished?
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I agree that Bikers are often overlooked by 4 wheel drivers, but that is what makes the "bad" bike drivers more annoying. You know in any collision, no matter who is at fault, you are going to come out on the losing end.
Then why, in the riding season as brief as it has been so far, have I already seen 3 riders driving so dangerously? Maybe that is why it is so annoying - because it is so scary. We know if anything happens we won't just be denting your fender, we may be denting your head.
All the good riders get a bad rap from the bad ones, but it just seems like, from my totally anecdotal experience, there are a larger percentage of dangerous bikers. Or it may be that I just remember them more, since bad car drivers are so frickin' common.
I think the fact that people think the majority of bikers are bad drivers is a fantastic testament to the fact that most accidents are caused by cars not noticing guys on bikes.
Of course everyone is going to notice the guy doing a wheelie at 100mph down crowchild, but how often do you notice the guys on bikes who aren't driving like ######s?
Trust me, try riding yourself, and you'll start to notice a whole lot more bikes than you used to, both while you're riding and driving.
Then you'll realize that the vast majority of people on bikes aren't ######ed.
Sure most of us like to wind it up on the highway, and maybe take off quick from a red light, but that's the nature of the beast, and is a FAR cry from stunting and ripping down city streets at twice the speed limit.
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Just my personal observation, YMMV.
There are more than enough idiot car/truck drivers out there, absolutely. That in and of itself is a pretty good reason why morons on bikes shouldn't be making a habit of doing 30 over the limit while weaving through lanes.
And I'm sorry, but on Deerfoot, that describes 80% of the bikers.
So really, how much of the problem is innattentive drivers, and how much is idiots who are weaving so much that when you blink, they've vanished?
80% of bikes on deerfoot? No dude, that's not right. I hate to flat out contradict you like that, but MAYBE 80% of the guys you notice are doing that, but trust me, once you start riding and you actually start to look out for bikes, you'll realize that you're way off.
Besides how many bike accidents happen on deerfoot every year?
Not nearly as many as happen in intersections all over the city where guys are doing 50-60 kph, and the majority of those are caused by drivers turing left and not paying attention to the bike coming their way.
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I realize you have a superiority complex when it comes to being a biker.
Fact is, I do notice bikers when they cross my path. I do so, and I watch them carefully, because I expect that they are going to do something dumb. I'm not often disappointed.
Usually I'm just happy when they fly up an open lane well above the speed limit. At least when they are driving a straight line it is easier to avoid problems.
I really cannot believe the ignorance of some of these comments.
What, when soemone is speeding dont show them the same courtesy as you would someone who isnt putting yours and other peoples lives in danger?
Get off your high horse, people who speed if they die its their own damn fault and no one elses. If someone is coming up highway 2 in a crotch rocket going 150+ do you really think I am going to show him the same courtesy as other drivers.
Him and is 12K bike vs me and my 40K SUV, if we both obey the rules of the road then no one gets hurt but I wont go out of my way to allow him to rip down the road.
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