Five people found dead in Dalhousie

[OilersBaby]

Well I'm not defending any of the killers (heck my husband is a prosecutor at the District Attorney's office so i'm all about justice)..but sometimes conditions prevent people from thinking logically and they do crazy things. That's why its so important to intervene and seek medical attention for someone else if they dont get help themselves. There are so many people that live with or are close to someone that have clinical depression or post partum depression or are substance abusers, but they dont help them and think it will get better on its own. Im not saying that its an excuse.....but a lot of times, tragedies can be prevented.

[Flames_Gimp]

its too bad the guys parents didn't do a better job answering the cry for help. One phone call to someone out here to check on them could have avoided this possibly.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by fotze

Probably ever child on the planet has made a call like that to their folks. I think it is as much their fault as it is mine. How could they possibly figure something remotely close to this would happen. (maybe your parents would think this of you) but not all parents. Choosing to fly out is a lot more than a lot of parents would do. I know people whose folks won't even pick them up at the airport after being away from home for 2+ years.

You think everyone has phoned their parents in a panic thinking they were going to have a breakdown?

anyways just saying its too bad they didn't make a call to someone. who knows maybe things wouldn't have happened. I'm betting this wasn't the first cry for help..

[Eddie Bronze]

They were reporting on Global last night as an aside to this story about domestic violence in Calgary. The stats were 1 in 4 murders in this city are domestic and there have been 70 domestic murders in the last 13 years. They also said these statistics make Calgary the domestic violence capital of Canada.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

My early theory was that perhaps the father became mixed up in some shady business and as a result, some thugs killed his family (but they didn't know about the baby in another room). Upon entering the home, he became so distraught that he picked up the murder weapon and killed himself because he couldn't live knowing that it was brought on by something he did.

First the mafia and now this......maybe you shouldn't speculate and just STFU.

[Reggie Dunlop]

This is a pretty sad story all around. I've been just sick about it all day, as one of the victims was someone I know.

[RougeUnderoos]

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[the_only_turek_fan]

I was at Cohos for about 4 hours today, and it was a very very somber atmosphere. Most of his co-workers described him as a wonderful and cheerful person. A lot of the office was restricted during the day.

They did confirm that his doctor advised him to take a week off work due to a mental illness.

What a horrible story.

[Saint Troy]

Condolences Reg. Myself I can't get this story out of my head, with having two little ones the same age as the victims. The profile of this makes no sense, as there seems to be no warning signs other than the call to the parents. It seems to be a "psychotic break" by the father, which may explain the brutality of the scene, it's all very stomach churning.

[Eddie Bronze]

Originally Posted by fotze

Maybe the girl in the cross-border shopping thread should thank her lucky stars. Men suck.

I'm actually not familiar with the topic you are speaking on but I don't think it comes down to men sucking. Women have committed similar crimes. Looking at it from my own perspective, I would love to meet a nice girl. Be really nice to have someone to do stuff with. But you look up there at what Kris said about what causes someone to go this way and that's all I need to know I can't get involved because 16 years down the road the person you thought you knew could snap and end the one life your given. Is it really worth it? I don't care what anyone says, you never really know someone. Whether it's your wife or your son or your father. And as far as that goes, I doubt we even know ourselves as well as many like to think.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

This is a pretty sad story all around. I've been just sick about it all day, as one of the victims was someone I know.

Sorry to hear that Reg. My condolances.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by chummer

First the mafia and now this......maybe you shouldn't speculate and just STFU.

Get over yourself. You're the only one who has a problem. I just find it unfathomable that a father could do this to his girls.

Feel free to put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Dion

Sorry to hear that Reg. My condolances.

Actually, its more of a friend-of-a-friend type thing, but still very distressing.

What an awful way to die.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Get over yourself. You're the only one who has a problem. I just find it unfathomable that a father could do this to his girls.

Feel free to put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts.

I agree with you FA, telling someone to STFU because they are trying to theorize how such a tragedy can happen is rude and uncalled for. Many have speculated here and yet you singled out a fellow CPer because you don't agree with his speculation. I think you should apologize myself, totally uncalled for chummer!

[T@T]

Originally Posted by troutman

You can bet your bottom dollar that divorce lawyers were actually involved, creating and manipulating conflict by threatening loss of children and perpetual servitude based purely on psychiatric speculation, innuendo and lies OR, on the horizon.

That is entirely speculation, and misguided. Family lawyers are trained to minimize conflict and consider the impact of the process on the welfare of the children. Many cases are resolved in a collaborative format. If couples want to beat each other up in court, it is their choice, but most family lawyers I know would rather avoid an adversarial court battle if possible.

Are you a Lawyer Trout?

From 2 tour of dutys i call billclap

From the getgo before any quotes Lawyers are very interested in:

1) Bank account, stocks/bonds
2) Equity in home
3) In telling you "if you wait it out you'll win"
4) Her Lawyer tells her the same damn thing
5) Both lawyers probably get together for a few drinks and plan what to do with the money from the couples house and bank accounts.

When a Lawyer has the nerve of taking a 5 grand retainer from you and then charge $93.60 for a 2 page fax (numerous times) to the other Lawyer I know where their hearts are. yes i know even Lawyers would have feelings for this tragedy but facts are they are money hungry creaps who don't give a crap about the people they represent.

The sooner the courts ban Lawyers from divorce the better society will be, every divorce should go threw mediation.

PS, my last one i just said f*** it, I'd rather her have the house than him have a new BMW.

[BuzzardsWife]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

its too bad the guys parents didn't do a better job answering the cry for help. One phone call to someone out here to check on them could have avoided this possibly.

I think they were concerned enough to come see him, but truly, what could they have done? Phoned the police? Nothing would have been done. It's too bad we all didn't have a crystal ball. One of my best friends Mom called her saying she was really down and didn't want to be alone. My friend was out at sea and couldn't get in till the next day. Her Mom hung herself that night, even though my friend had sent family over to check on her. If someone is going to do something nuts, they are going to do it. This guy could have planned it for days or hours or minutes or seconds. Noone will ever know and noone is remotely responsible except him. What could make a 'normal' guy go so crazy? I am wondering if he wasn't on some anti-depressant that made him go nuts? That does happen. What a tragedy. My dentist did this to his family in the 70's.

[BuzzardsWife]

Originally Posted by T@T

Are you a Lawyer Trout?

From 2 tour of dutys i call billclap

From the getgo before any quotes Lawyers are very interested in:

1) Bank account, stocks/bonds
2) Equity in home
3) In telling you "if you wait it out you'll win"
4) Her Lawyer tells her the same damn thing
5) Both lawyers probably get together for a few drinks and plan what to do with the money from the couples house and bank accounts.

When a Lawyer has the nerve of taking a 5 grand retainer from you and then charge $93.60 for a 2 page fax (numerous times) to the other Lawyer I know where their hearts are. yes i know even Lawyers would have feelings for this tragedy but facts are they are money hungry creaps who don't give a crap about the people they represent.

The sooner the courts ban Lawyers from divorce the better society will be, every divorce should go threw mediation.

PS, my last one i just said f*** it, I'd rather her have the house than him have a new BMW.

Amen to that.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by T@T

Are you a Lawyer Trout?

...and a bunch of bitterness

[prarieboy]

Originally Posted by T@T

Are you a Lawyer Trout?

From 2 tour of dutys i call billclap

From the getgo before any quotes Lawyers are very interested in:

1) Bank account, stocks/bonds
2) Equity in home
3) In telling you "if you wait it out you'll win"
4) Her Lawyer tells her the same damn thing
5) Both lawyers probably get together for a few drinks and plan what to do with the money from the couples house and bank accounts.

When a Lawyer has the nerve of taking a 5 grand retainer from you and then charge $93.60 for a 2 page fax (numerous times) to the other Lawyer I know where their hearts are. yes i know even Lawyers would have feelings for this tragedy but facts are they are money hungry creaps who don't give a crap about the people they represent.

The sooner the courts ban Lawyers from divorce the better society will be, every divorce should go threw mediation.

PS, my last one i just said f*** it, I'd rather her have the house than him have a new BMW.

If this is your past expierience I think you might be hiring bad lawyers.

I've had one "tour of duty" and my lawyer was all about mediation, not court. In my personal opinion I was well represented and a fair comprimise was reached by all.

I've dealt with lawyers who post on this forum that have done work for me at no charge because in their mind they felt it was the right thing to do.

Obviously we have had a very different exposure to the legal proffesion.

I just think it's hard to paint the world with such a broad brush.

Back on Topic....


My Heart goes out to this family and all that know them. I grew up in Dalhousie. One of my best friends did as well and he could throw a rock at that house from where he grew up.

It's been in my mind since I heard about it.

RIP

[Eddie Bronze]

According to 660 News this morning, they say the Herald is reporting that the husband was "hearing voices in his head" and was convinced he had become "possessed by the devil". Apparently the mom and two girls were found together in one room, they said "huddled together" but didn't say if they were in the same room when they were slain or if they were moved there by the killer. The Bowerman girl found in her basement suite and the dad found dead beside the babies crib.