05-25-2008, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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i just read an article in the latest Fast Company about the Chinese economic invasion of Africa. A long but interesting read if you get a chance...
Anyways...the article says that if all Chinese Citizens get to have the same lifestyle as Americans do now...if we don't change things we are going to need another Earth just to support this planet Earth. That's shocking.
And may explain alot!
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05-25-2008, 07:41 PM
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#62
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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Originally Posted by McG
i just read an article in the latest Fast Company about the Chinese economic invasion of Africa. A long but interesting read if you get a chance...
Anyways...the article says that if all Chinese Citizens get to have the same lifestyle as Americans do now...if we don't change things we are going to need another Earth just to support this planet Earth. That's shocking.
And may explain alot!
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Maybe the Chinese can go to Mars and promise the martians they will build schools, hospitals, roads, and universities for the right to pillage their planets resources while putting martian businesses out of business because of all the chinese crap they bring in duty free whilst not building a single school, hospital, road, or university.
Things will balance out McG. Just be thankful you don't live in either of those places when the 'balancing' occurs.
I am glad they are returning to retro rockets for re-entry. Space expolration has been so boring in the past 20 years. You sent men to the moon with a vehicle that had the computing power of a Casio watch and giant air bags is the most advanced way of landing on Mars? Take some risks NASA!
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05-25-2008, 08:20 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Daradon
Heheh, but they are so cute in their matching outfits.
I dunno, with a name like Phoenix I was expecting a different ending, lol.
Serious question for a moment. Why do they keep sending probes and vehicles to Mars? Are they still looking for signs or water or life? Is it general exploration? Are they trying to pinpoint one of those face rocks?  I remember lots of people getting excited for the landings of these vehicles but not much newsworthy every coming back once they land. |
Looking for water mostly yeah, if they want to send humans to Mars it would be SO much easier if we could use some resources that are already there, having to launch everything up out of our gravity well and take it all with us makes it waaaay harder.
If there's fairly easily mined water there then that's worth knowing.
And just general science too, the only planet we know a huge amount of details about is our own, being able to do chemistry, geology, etc on another planet is VERY useful.
In a way I would prefer seeing us trying to go to asteroids first, use robots to mine the heck out of them... get an infrastructure up there so we can build stuff without having to launch it.
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05-25-2008, 08:21 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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05-25-2008, 08:23 PM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Pics coming in eh Photon?
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05-25-2008, 08:27 PM
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Hmm, I see something in the distance, up in the left hand side of the horizon, I can't believe they actually did it, they say the odds of pulling something like this are comparable to winning the lottery!
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05-25-2008, 08:41 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Just watched most of the coverage from Jay Ingram and the Discovery channel, fantastic stuff. If I had some khaki pants and a yellow had full of peanuts I'd be freaking out too.
That's a lifetime of work into much a little time for something so important. I'm not smart enough to put it into words, but it was pretty amazing to watch.
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05-25-2008, 09:24 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Agreed, the coverage is a bit cheezy but sometimes it's easy to forget how truly crazy these achievements are.
In what, 6 or 7 average lifespans we've gone from really understanding that the earth orbits the sun to putting our mechanical representatives all around the solar system and a few beyond. Crazy.
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05-25-2008, 09:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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05-25-2008, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Sector 2814
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Any updates or breaking news? 
Studying for a math test tomorrow.. summer school sucks and I would love to be distracted!
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05-25-2008, 09:52 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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05-25-2008, 10:09 PM
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I'll get you next time Gadget!
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How come the photos are b&w?
Anyone know if they eventually going to release video?
How ridiculous is it that we threw a camera off our planet 10 months ago and are now looking at the pictures it is taking for us millions of miles away. Could you imagine suggesting such a thing was possible 60 years ago? The pace of scientific progress is truly baffling sometimes. Obviously Phoenix is much more than a camera... hah... but I just thought it was funny way of looking at it.
How many years until there is an outpost on Mars... launching it's own ships to the further reaches of our solar system? Obviously a long way off, but I get excited thinking about just what could be possible if we continue progressing at this speed.
This may sound cheesy, but with the amount of crap I usually heap on our species, accomplishments like this make you realize just what we are really capable of.
Edit: Just to drive my point home, I printed off that first picture and hung it on my wall. So WITHIN FOUR HOURS of Phoneix landing on Mars (a minor miracle in itself), I have a framed photograph THAT IT TOOK hanging on my bedroom wall. And I could have had it sooner had I thought of it! haha
Try to explain that to a person from 1930.
Last edited by Save Us Sutter; 05-25-2008 at 10:18 PM.
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05-25-2008, 10:29 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Lol that's true, what's the bigger achievement?
Getting pictures back from Mars (heck, that's been done for a long time), or not having to wait for a book or a newspaper, almost instant global access to the data being sent back.
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05-25-2008, 10:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Directly from Nasa's site. Not clear if this is a recolor of the b/w picture, or, using data sent back to apply correct color filters, or, if its a flat out color picture straight from the ship 275 million km's away. Still cool.
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05-25-2008, 10:46 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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why are the rocks green?
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05-25-2008, 10:53 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Green? Or maybe blue, I think I read somewhere that rocks on mars are more blue than the dirt.
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05-25-2008, 10:57 PM
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I'll get you next time Gadget!
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It's Martian moss!
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05-25-2008, 11:00 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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Green? Or maybe blue, I think I read somewhere that rocks on mars are more blue than the dirt.
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ok.. but why? do we have blue/ green rocks on earth? Or is it just some sort of oxidization? But not with Oxygen, since there isn't any oxygen on mars.
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05-25-2008, 11:06 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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05-25-2008, 11:15 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Location: Calgary
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