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Old 05-23-2008, 04:13 PM   #121
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In a lot of these instances though, I didn't even tell them I had a girlfriend (i.e. ATM blonde). It's like they have some kind sixth sense. Maybe your pheremones change are something wacky like that if you're getting sex on a regular basis.

They do. Some perfumes are designed to smell like pheremones to increase your attractiveness to the other sex.
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A little OT but do you guys find more women attracted to you when you're in a relationship? I've been hit on more since I've had a girlfriend than in the previous years that I was single. I even had one smokin' hot blonde flat out ask me on a date when she was standing behind me at an ATM machine. It's some kind of strange phenomenom.
Ahhh good ol' TMS or 'taken man syndrome'. Happens because you're projecting added confidence (with being in a relationship) and probably some other qualities as well (loyalty etc.)

The best way to make the most of TMS without being a jerk is find a girlfriend who shares your love of women.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:13 PM   #123
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I'd like to know where you guys meet these women?! Of course I ask a guy what they do for a living... however it has nothing to do with what kind of money they make, rather it has to do with what they do for 8 hours of their day! If I want to know a guy, I want to know how he spends his time and whether or not he actually enjoys it.

As for the woman who asked what the guy made... I don't even know where to start. I mean really, even if the guy makes $250,000/year, how is he going to take being asked that at all? What kind of guy are you attracting that has no issues dating a woman with that as their main criteria anyway?

I think some of the men and women in this city have ruined it for the rest of us. God forbid I want to dress up to go out lest I get labelled a gold-digger or something. And God forbid a guy actually strike up a conversation with a lady lest he get shot down for bad shoes. It's a sad state of affairs.
Honestly when I went out to bars I used to try to go for women who were older than me (21) because of these kinds of things. I find there's less of that kind of attitude past age 24, but then I was getting shot down for being too young so I guess it's a no-win situation.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:14 PM   #124
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Is it really the fault of the fish for not taking the bait, or is it really a matter of not baiting the hook with proper bait? I don't think you can get mad at people for wanting what they want.

The laws of attraction are inately biological and not based on any set of egalitarian ethical principles or optimally derived constructs to appease and accomodate everyone. Not everyone is equal. So when we are all given freewill to make choices in life, more intelligent people will do the more intelligent jobs, athletic people will be athletes, and quite frankly more attractive people will have an easier time attracting mates and thus have greater control as to who it is they mate with. So when men have certain expectations/standards/ideals it tends to reflect the reality that they percieve.

It's kinda like selling a house. If you're house if properly priced and marketed for you to optimize your revenue you'll get some lower offers and within a reasonable amount of time there will be one particular buyer who will meet your price. If its priced too high or not marketed enough, your price simply won't be met until you lower it and you can't crap all over potential buyers for not seeing a higher valuation.
This really is the best way to look at it... but I kind of see it as the buyer rather than the seller...

Some people have a lot of "credit" and go straight to the "showhomes and estate homes," while some have to settle for a "fixer-upper in a rough neighborhood" or in some cases, a "craphole".

The average and above average shop in the decent to well above average market depending on "negotiating" skills and personal opinion.

Its brutally unfair, but no one said life is fair. Especially since men are more likely to cash in as much of their "credit" as possible.

However, sometimes there's people who could afford a "mansion" and buy a "townhouse" because it suits them better.
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Of course it’s human nature

The second something becomes off limits it instantly goes up in value

It’s the “Do not push this button syndrome” the second you see that sign you want to push that button

Back in my bar/club days I would tell almost every girl I met that I had a GF, and they where all over me
I think it has more to with vibes.

When I'm dating someone, and serious about them, I stop looking at other women. I mean I still glance (of course), but I'm not actively seeking anyone out, or trying to be attractive, etc.

Experience has taught me that women prefer a guy who doesn't look like they're single, whether they actually are single or not.



Either way, though, I do agree that I tend to get a lot more "potential" action when I'm already taken than I do when I'm single.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:15 PM   #126
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In a lot of these instances though, I didn't even tell them I had a girlfriend (i.e. ATM blonde). It's like they have some kind sixth sense. Maybe your pheremones change are something wacky like that if you're getting sex on a regular basis.
Body language is everything

If you single you a much more inclined to check out a girl or a nervous tendencies when one is around (i.e. ATM machine)

When you’re single you don’t do those thing and girls pickup on it
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I'd like to know where you guys meet these women?! Of course I ask a guy what they do for a living... however it has nothing to do with what kind of money they make, rather it has to do with what they do for 8 hours of their day! If I want to know a guy, I want to know how he spends his time and whether or not he actually enjoys it.

As for the woman who asked what the guy made... I don't even know where to start. I mean really, even if the guy makes $250,000/year, how is he going to take being asked that at all? What kind of guy are you attracting that has no issues dating a woman with that as their main criteria anyway?

I think some of the men and women in this city have ruined it for the rest of us. God forbid I want to dress up to go out lest I get labelled a gold-digger or something. And God forbid a guy actually strike up a conversation with a lady lest he get shot down for bad shoes. It's a sad state of affairs.

You should ask what their dream job is or what they have always hoped to try doing one day instead. Something more along those lines.

It will usually result in them revealing what they do currently while (1) making it seem less loaded of a question (2) resulting in more than a simple answer (3) allow for all sorts of new areas of banter (4) make you seem like an insightful and thoughtful person/conversationalist and (5) give you FAR more insight into the person you are talking to.

A great follow-up question is something along the lines of what is holding the person back from acheiving that dream job or what is their plan to get there. Then you have made it clear you are goal driven (which women seem to be more than men i meet) yet open to having dreams and being about more than where you are now and instead of where you will be in the future. Allow a guy to sell himself as more than the sum of his parts, instead of suggesting you could actually sum up ANYTHING of value about a person based on what job they hold at 25 or 29 years old.



I have thought about starting a blog about this stuff from a guys perspective. I was always in a relationship so i couldn't do it before but now all my female friends are telling me to do it... Always interesting line of discussion though...



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Old 05-23-2008, 04:20 PM   #128
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I read a Far Side comic once, couldn't find it though.

Two men read a sign that says "No Juggling Machetes."
One man says to the other "I have a sudden urge to juggle machetes."
Caption: Human Nature.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:22 PM   #129
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I have thought about starting a blog about this stuff from a guys perspective. I was always in a relationship so i couldn't do it before but now all my female friends are telling me to do it... Always interesting line of discussion though...
Hey, I'd read it. I think there needs to be more "real" man-centered stuff out there.

I'm not talking Playboy, Maxim, or tractor pulls and mullets... I mean real topics that actually matter to real men.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:23 PM   #130
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I've definatley been hit on more since I got married than before. I also got hit on more when I already had a girl friend... it is sorta weird.

In any event, the chick in the original article needs some obvious help. I concur with whoever said it was her friend that wrote the article; how else does this make it to print? Sorta makes her seem pathetic more than any commentary on any potential suitors.

As for Firefly, you know we all love you.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:33 PM   #131
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A little OT but do you guys find more women attracted to you when you're in a relationship? I've been hit on more since I've had a girlfriend than in the previous years that I was single. I even had one smokin' hot blonde flat out ask me on a date when she was standing behind me at an ATM machine. It's some kind of strange phenomenom.
That's a typical social behaviour pattern. And to arouse your suspicion, are you certain it's not your girlfriend throwing her friends at you to make sure you aren't cheating?

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Depends on the age of the guy you're talking to, but most of the single guys I know don't like dating in Calgary because the women tend to be looking to marry rich.

Calgary is a great place, but it has a strange culture and energy to it. I am certainly glad that I am not single.

About that, it took me over a year to finally get a date with the woman who I ended up marrying.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:48 PM   #133
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People already commented, but there is a difference in your subconscious when you have a bf/gf and when you don't. There is some truth to the advice that the best way to attract women is to ignore them. When you're with someone, you won't usually be trying to come on to any beautiful person you meet, and women pick up on that. Also, when you talk to a complete stranger, your midset really is that you have nothing to lose, since you already have the mindset of having nothing to lose since you already have a gf, and you're not looking to score, just talk to the person
Was quite difficult when I went over to Europe for a year with my gf in Canada. Found myself a lot more popular with the ladies than I was use to back home. Being Canadian helped too though with that department
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:52 PM   #134
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The bulk of the comments in the article/start of the thread revolve around the theme of "guys are too polite and gentlemanly for me to go anywhere with."

I'm sure that if I walk up to girls with a line stolen from my "best of Captain Crunch" collection, I get more tail than following the advice of my girl-friends.
Does the best of Captain Crunch collection come on easy to use 8tracks for the socially impaired?
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:56 PM   #135
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In any event, the chick in the original article needs some obvious help. I concur with whoever said it was her friend that wrote the article; how else does this make it to print? Sorta makes her seem pathetic more than any commentary on any potential suitors.
Agreed, this article unfairly project's that chick's defeatist attitude onto all women in this city, which certainly isn't the case. Plenty of perfectly decent single boys AND girls to be had, you just have to keep a positive frame of mind and good things will follow. Maybe try a different drink besides the cosmo and branch out, not every guy goes to the Met to meet girls.

Good luck in NYC! What's she going to say when she comes back from her little work sojourn STILL single?
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:57 PM   #136
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I think you misinterpret me. I get that like attracts like, and I don't dispute that. The standards I set in myself I expect in someone I'd date as well. What I was saying is that men are inundated with sexy, beautiful women in media. The reality is that the majority of women are not like this. Women on the other hand are given a more egalitarian look at men through media, and generally, have lower standards looks-wise. How often do you see a guy with a hot chick and think "how did he score that?" Likewise, do you EVER see a hot guy with an average girl? Just doesn't happen.
I have a problem with this post, FF.

All advertising is designed for demographics. If you're noticing an add, you're in the demographic... like it or not. A guy is going to look at a naked or near-naked chick no matter how "hot" her peers would rate her. Those ads are more designed to make women feel bad about themselves and buy whatever product will help make them look better - it is NOT about programming mankind into liking a certain kind of woman.

I often see guys with girls that are "better looking" than them and vice versa. Those are people who understand that there is more to life than the surface.

Bottom line is that you have to do what makes you happy and I am sorry to say but a lot of your language seems to focus on things that seem to make you confused or unhappy.
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I know a large part of it is because I am cripplingly shy. I probably give out a very strong "please stay away" vibe
I'm in the same boat. My social skills and confidence have taken a beating since junior high, and having friends stab me in the back doesn't help much.

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You want someone who has no self-confidence issues, well sorry they don't exist, no one is perfect and no one really believes they are perfect.
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Also, acting confident and being actually confident are two mutually exclusive things.
You want someone who has no self-confidence issues, well sorry they don't exist, no one is perfect and no one really believes they are perfect.
Its like Eddie Murphy said, everyone needs to find someone just as f##ked up as they are.
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Do I have a match?

Not since John Holmes died
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