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Resolute 14 · 05-22-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boblobla

I am not excusing what I did but there is a difference between someone driving home that might blow a .085 and isn't actually impaired and someone who climbs behind the wheel of a cement truck at 3 or 4 times the legal limit and kills an entire family.

Indeed. And that difference is luck. Nothing else.

Dion · 05-22-2008, 04:30 PM

Imapired driving facts.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drving.htm

Boblobla · 05-22-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Indeed. And that difference is luck. Nothing else.

Huh?

Sorry, that doesn't make sense to me.

Resolute 14 · 05-22-2008, 04:33 PM

Simple. You are lucky you haven't killed anyone by driving drunk yet.

Boblobla · 05-22-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Simple. You are lucky you haven't killed anyone by driving drunk yet.

Do you speed?

Do you drive when you are tired?

604flames · 05-22-2008, 05:10 PM

At least he wasn't smoking in the car too

JD · 05-22-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 604flames

At least he wasn't smoking in the car too

And that car better have had winter tires if it was winter.

Tron_fdc · 05-22-2008, 05:52 PM

I've read somewhere that talking on the phone (nevermind texting) reduces your driving capabilities to that of someone who is impaired. Dunnoif it's true or not, but it's a pretty scary thought.

If it's actually true, the way some people smoke, drive, talk on the phone and eat, they would be absolutely SMASHED behind the wheel in comparison to someone who's a few bevvies over. Not justifying, just thought it was an interesting comparison.

Ford Prefect · 05-22-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I've read somewhere that talking on the phone (nevermind texting) reduces your driving capabilities to that of someone who is impaired. Dunnoif it's true or not, but it's a pretty scary thought.

If it's actually true, the way some people smoke, drive, talk on the phone and eat, they would be absolutely SMASHED behind the wheel in comparison to someone who's a few bevvies over. Not justifying, just thought it was an interesting comparison.

Plus, there are days when that smoking, cell phone yakking, burger munching driver has a head cold/allergies and has taken a double dose of anti-histamines just to put a nice glow on his overall state of euphoria. Truly, drinkers aren't the only people who are a menace to society and need to be handed a blind fold and a cigarette. Wait, cigarettes are politically incorrect ... better just give him a stick of sugarless gum with that blind fold.

RougeUnderoos · 05-22-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Indeed. And that difference is luck. Nothing else.

Okay, this just isn't true. There are different levels of intoxication. It's not just bad luck that the pisstank who can't see straight is more likely to get in a wreck than a guy who is barely over the line. The drunker you are the worse you are going to drive. There isn't any luck involved.

It's not an excuse for anybody or anything. It's just common sense.

I heard an interview with a longtime drunk-driving crusader on the radio once and he was quite skeptical about this whole "zero tolerance" approach. I wish I could remember his name. Anyway, he said "our goal was to get drunks off the road, not people who'd had a drink with dinner off the road, but drunks because they were killing people, but now people are advocating a 0.0 limit and that wasn't the goal and not what I wanted to do and not who the focus should be on".

That isn't really directed at anybody (and doesn't even apply to this story), but it made sense to me so I figured I'd add it in.

Resolute 14 · 05-22-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boblobla

Do you speed?

Do you drive when you are tired?

Yes, and not if I can avoid it.

The difference though is that I am not sitting here trying to rationalize and excuse the things I do.

And "I wouldn't drive drunk if the transit system was better" is an incredibly lame excuse.

metallicat · 05-22-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yes, and not if I can avoid it.

The difference though is that I am not sitting here trying to rationalize and excuse the things I do.

And "I wouldn't drive drunk if the transit system was better" is an incredibly lame excuse.

You've got that right. Why not just NOT drink when going out? It isn't hard to do. I realize sacrificing a little fun for the lives of innocent people is a lot to ask, but...

Resolute 14 · 05-22-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Okay, this just isn't true. There are different levels of intoxication. It's not just bad luck that the pisstank who can't see straight is more likely to get in a wreck than a guy who is barely over the line. The drunker you are the worse you are going to drive. There isn't any luck involved.

I wasn't referring to that idiot's "bad" luck.

I was referring to Boblobla's good luck in not hurting anyone yet by driving drunk.

And I agree with your later comments about how the idea is to get legally drunk people off the road, not all people who have had any kind of drink. However, if you are too drunk to operate a vehicle properly, you are creating a dangerous situation on the road, whether you are at .085 or .85.

And while boblobla tried to deflect his dangerous actions by comparing them to speeding, the simple fact is, you can adjust your speed while driving to adapt if you are creating a dangerous situation. You can't change your drunkenness while driving. Stop making excuses and get off the road.

SebC · 05-22-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ResAlien

Heading home from the bar with a girl, get pulled over for a head light that apparently just went out. Yeah, I'm an idiot for not noticing.

No, you're in idiot for driving drunk.

Got Miikka? · 05-22-2008, 06:33 PM

You know what I consider luck? That no one I care about (excluding myself) has been involved in any alcohol-related vehicle accidents. I honestly hope the odds aren't stacking up against me.

onetwo_threefour · 05-22-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by onetwo_threefour

Self-righteous, holier than thou BS

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Originally Posted by Boblobla

Come on. A life time ban? When child molesters only get a few years in prison for first offenses? Wow, I just wonder about people sometimes.

Yeah, I'm not the one justifying Drunk Driving or even Drinking and Driving... I may be self-righteous and holier-than-thou, but since I don't put people at risk by driving after drinking, I'd say I've got a right to be as compared to you and the OP on this issue. If you don't like it, tough...

Wow, I just wonder about people sometimes....

The Fonz · 05-22-2008, 06:45 PM

I'd be curious to see a poll with the question "Have you ever driven after drinking?"...

CaramonLS · 05-22-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

I'd be curious to see a poll with the question "Have you ever driven after drinking?"...

...? That is a pretty dumb question because everyone probably has.

Now, over the 0.08 limit? I did that once 7 years ago (I was probably over the limit) - was never caught or got even close to getting in an accident, but it was still one of the dumbest things I've ever done.

Having a drink or 2 with dinner, then driving after having a little bit of time to digest? Who hasn't? Most people aren't near the limit after that.

yyc · 05-22-2008, 07:06 PM

dont have the time to read this now, but on page 6 is a chart of leading factors in car crashes{UK}. seems like booze is low on the list. agian i havent read this yet, but i figured I would add it anyways. driver error is the biggest problem.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/162259/162469/...storoadacc1802

macker · 05-22-2008, 07:27 PM

Until you come face to face with the consequences of drunk driving you will never truly see what this does to people and how it changes lives. Clearly the penalties for drunk driving are not strict enough. Way too much justification going on and there is a large percentage of people that openly think it is acceptable. A lady got mowed down in the SW a few weeks back and the guy that did this was in court to make sure that he can still go to see his kid graduate and watch soccer games etc. Will likely see a few years in jail or if he gets a good lawyer who knows what kind of scheme they can arrange for him. In this case someones life was taken away by someone who will likely get out of jail and repeat his actions. You can't tell me that you can't afford a cab so what is it.....laziness....ignorance....or just a system that isn't strict enough....we are way too forgiving in this area and is not something that we should be forgiving of when lives are lost because someone made a selfish choice. I am clearly a stick in the mud on this issue maybe because of my experiences with this issue but if everyone on CP alone decided to never drink and drive and to call a cab each and every time then our roads would be a lot safer. It takes commitment and in some cases it can be very inconvenient but in return you will never be "that guy" in the newspaper....RANT OFF.