04-26-2008, 08:38 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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No Playboy for US Soldiers?
Congress wants to ban soldiers from owning Playboy and Penthouse magazines because they contribute to the high rate of sexual assult in the military.
"Sexual assault is going up within the military, and I certainly think there's a very high likelihood the pornography being sold in military PXs is contributing to that,"
Seems like the same arguement that music is contributing to school violence.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/134035?GT1=43002
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04-26-2008, 08:41 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Mmm... yes.... remove the sole sexual gratification outlet that the soldiers have will obviously help reduce the rate of sexual assault.
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04-26-2008, 08:56 AM
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I would rather have them rubbing out terrorists!
On a serious note, while I do see the connection they are making and it does have some merit, I doubt it would do as much as they are thinking it will. If someone is willing to commit sexual assault to 'relieve' themselves then lack of some glossy pages for them to stick together isn't going to really change that much.
A better solution would be looking into government contracted brothels
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04-26-2008, 09:32 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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So these congressman are saying that these 18 year old guys are mature enough to handle shooting people, but not topless women? (or booze for that matter)
I'm sure they (these congressman) have seen a Playboy before, how come they're not sexual deviants because they saw a woman's breasts?
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04-26-2008, 09:54 AM
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
On a serious note, while I do see the connection they are making and it does have some merit, I doubt it would do as much as they are thinking it will.
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I really wonder if there is a connection. How long has Playboy been around? Early 60's or late 50's right? But its just now that these instances of sexual assault are up, so why the sudden connection.
One thing that has changed in recent years is the number of women going into the millitary, and also going into combat roles. So now you take the fact that a small portion of the men who go into the millitary because they feel the need to be violent; and now provide a lot more potential victims for them to assault.
20 years ago those guys with the chip on their shoulders would have just gotten into fights with their fellow male soldiers, and would have ended up with a nickname like "crazy Mike."
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Originally Posted by Rathji
A better solution would be looking into government contracted brothels
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As politically incorrect as that might be; I don't see that as being a bad idea. I wonder if the fact that you get hookers X times per year might remove the need for any other kind of recruitment advertizing.
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04-26-2008, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042
I really wonder if there is a connection. How long has Playboy been around? Early 60's or late 50's right? But its just now that these instances of sexual assault are up, so why the sudden connection.
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Porn is more abundant and socially acceptable now. To deny that it alters your perception of acceptable sexual behavior would be extremely naive. It stands to reason that incidents that would be a result of this altered perception would be more abundant as porn becomes more available.
So it is clear that there is some connection, but I don't think that connection is strong enough to warrant taking this action. I would argue that fighting against an enemy that uses women and children as suicide bombers, would increase hatred towards the people you are supposed to be defending, making them more easily considered as targets of sexual assault or any other type of violence.
Soldiers raped women in Vietnam and Korea as well, so I don't think there is allot different now other than the media coverage that has made it a larger issue.
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04-26-2008, 10:39 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Congress has always been a great meter for moral standards. Great men like Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Bill Clinton, Jack Ryan, and Gary Hart, just to name a few. What next? I think this is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
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04-26-2008, 10:59 AM
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Had an idea!
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Doesn't Congress have better things to do?
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04-26-2008, 11:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
Soldiers raped women in Vietnam and Korea as well, so I don't think there is allot different now other than the media coverage that has made it a larger issue.
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I think that is what is really happening. If stuff like this happened during past wars it was kept among the soilders or it never left the military.
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04-26-2008, 11:12 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Really, by this congressmans theory, shouldn't any man be a greater risk for sex crimes because he looked at a Playboy? Hugh Hefner and every 13 year old boy could be public enemy #1.
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04-26-2008, 11:14 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Doesn't Congress have better things to do?
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Things have kinda cooled on the MLB steroid scandal so they need something to justify having jobs.
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04-26-2008, 11:18 AM
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Coincidentally, upon widespread publication of this new mantra enrollment in the US military has nosedived.
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04-26-2008, 12:05 PM
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The first rape in a war happened about the time the first war got going. That isn't their concern here. What they seem to be worried about is sexual assault within the armed services -- a male soldier (stoked by airbrushed boobies) assaulting a female soldier.
Well that, and the fact that some poor woman and her children in Georgia had to witness a man in uniform purchase a Playboy magazine and their world came crashing down.
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04-26-2008, 03:18 PM
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Yeah, and I guess watching Halloween will turn me into a Killer. Oh and I'm sure I became a serial killer after watching Bundy. And now I'm gay because I watched Boys Don't Cry.
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04-26-2008, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzardsWife
Yeah, and I guess watching Halloween will turn me into a Killer. Oh and I'm sure I became a serial killer after watching Bundy. And now I'm gay because I watched Boys Don't Cry.
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I have to say, did you kill your husband? I havent seen Buzzard on here for a long time now.....
Just sayin'
Someone got bit by the CP bug....
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04-26-2008, 05:52 PM
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Norm!
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What a waste of effort, I don't really think that Playboy or Hustler or any other mens magazine is a uncontrollable gateway to raping in the battlefield. Rape for the most part is more about dominance and control then a arousal image. Rape in the battlefield is about a need to establish control by the individual over an enemy in a f'd up situation. Rape in the battlefield is about undirected rage.
To me also rape in any context but especially in terms of war is a disgusting act, soldiers are supposed to protect the weak.
Besides soldiers don't fight for the flag, they don't fight for anything but the right to look at a hot naked centerfold. Because that hot naked centerfold, well boys, thats like the great expression of freedom.
She's free to be naked, slightly wet with big boobies, and I'm free to look at her.
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04-26-2008, 06:33 PM
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tromboner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
A better solution would be looking into government contracted brothels
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Amsterdam fathers once had a problem with sailors coming sleeping with their daughters. Regulated / legalized prostitution was a damn good solution.
But the Dutch are practical, and the Americans are theocratic, so they've come up with this instead.
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04-26-2008, 07:09 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
What a waste of effort, I don't really think that Playboy or Hustler or any other mens magazine is a uncontrollable gateway to raping in the battlefield. Rape for the most part is more about dominance and control then a arousal image. Rape in the battlefield is about a need to establish control by the individual over an enemy in a f'd up situation. Rape in the battlefield is about undirected rage.
To me also rape in any context but especially in terms of war is a disgusting act, soldiers are supposed to protect the weak.
Besides soldiers don't fight for the flag, they don't fight for anything but the right to look at a hot naked centerfold. Because that hot naked centerfold, well boys, thats like the great expression of freedom.
She's free to be naked, slightly wet with big boobies, and I'm free to look at her.
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I couldn't agree more Captain Crunch.
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04-26-2008, 08:33 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
Porn is more abundant and socially acceptable now. To deny that it alters your perception of acceptable sexual behavior would be extremely naive. It stands to reason that incidents that would be a result of this altered perception would be more abundant as porn becomes more available.
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I don't think it stands to reason. You'll have to provide some evidence that increased viewing of porn results in a change of what's acceptable sexual behaviour (i.e. makes things that aren't acceptable such as rape seem acceptable).
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04-26-2008, 10:12 PM
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Dances with Wolves
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yah, I'm sure playboy is really at fault here. Nevermind the instances of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as well as other mental disorders related to war that are through the roof . . . it's gotta be the pron!
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