Boy, 15, nailed to a cross as Filipinos whip and crucify themselves in gory GF

[Azure]

GF = Good Friday.

A 15-year-old boy has been crucified in the Philipines today in a gory ritual to mark the death of Jesus Christ.


Dozens of Filipinos, including the boy and an 18-year-old girl, were nailed to crosses and scores more whipped their backs into a bloody pulp as the country's devout Roman Catholics marked Good Friday.


The voluntary crucifixions in the northern Philippines were the most extreme displays of religious devotion in this mainly Catholic country, where millions are praying and fasting ahead of the Easter weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811

[Muta]

Hardcore.

Voluntary? That's even more hardcore. I thought Jesus did it in the first place so others didn't have to, no? These people must be on a more dedicated level than anything we can understand.

[arloiginla]

Won't judge others...but that is crazy stuff, conisdering (as the above poster mentioned) the Bible makes it quite explicit that Jesus was the sacrificial lamb on the cross so that we wouldn't need to this stuff.

I can't imagine the dedication that these people have though, to put themsevles through something liek that.

[Resolute 14]

There was an article from an Adelaide, Australia newspaper a couple days ago about this phenomenon, with the classic headline of "Crucifixion is detrimental to your health".

Good thing for those Ausies, or I never would have guessed...

[FireFly]

The look on the one man's face in that picture was like he didn't realize it would hurt so bad. Duh.

[Dion]

Talk about taking religon to extreme.

Good grief!

[Hack&Lube]

The crucifixtion and the torture and suffering Jesus went through as a catalyst for religious furvor has always puzzled me. I mean, many people have suffered far worse in human history. Mankind is very keen to devise the most agonizing ways of prolonging death and creating unmentionable, humiliating suffering.

The suffering of Christ is valid when you consider the theological viewpoint that he was taking on all of mankind's sins. When you take the physical and mental suffering purely as the catalyst for your religion, I fear your perspective is way off. Hint-hint Mr. Mel Gibson and the "Passion" of Christ. I've heard countless statements or sermons about how horribly Christ suffered and it seems all engineered to generate piety of out some false sense of guilt.

I mean, can you imagine being put on a wheel? That's probably 10-times worse than crucifixtion.
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...re/devices.htm

The victim, naked, was stretched out supine on the ground or on the execution dock, with his or her limbs spread, and tied to stakes or iron rings. Stout wooden crosspieces were placed under the wrists, elbows, ankles, knees and hips. The executioner then smashed limb after limb and joint after joint, including the shoulders and hips, with the iron-tyred edge of the wheel, but avoiding fatal blows. The victim was transformed, according to the observations of a seventeenth-century German chronicler, “into a sort of huge screaming puppet writhing in rivulets of blood, a puppet with four tentacles, like a sea monster, of raw, slimy and shapeless flesh mixed up with splinters of smashed bones”. Thereafter the shattered limbs were “braided” into the spokes of the large wheel, and the victim hoisted up horizontally to the top of a pole, where the crows ripped away bits of flesh and pecked out eyes. Death came after what was probably the longest and most atrocious agony that the ingenuousness of the power structure could inflict.

[Locke]

Go to church.

I understand its boring, but it is infinitely less painful than that.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I mean, can you imagine being put on a wheel? That's probably 10-times worse than crucifixtion.
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...re/devices.htm

Did they use the 'wheel' in those days?

I don't know, but too crucify someone seemed like the way they killed people in those days.

Not sure though.

I don't see the point in arguing for which way he suffered MORE though.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Locke

Go to church.

I understand its boring, but it is infinitely less painful than that.

Depends on the minister. When i was a kid i used to fall asleep during the service Then he'd get upset when my snoring caused the parishoners around me to laugh

[CaptainCrunch]

Crucifixion is an incredibly painful way to go and you tend to last for a fairly long time. The pain of getting nails driven through your wrists (usually, palm crucifixions was done more rarely because the victims usually pulled their hands off of the spikes). All of your weight is on your hands and feet, and as you slumped forward you would start to asphyxiate and instinctively pull yourself straight against your nailed down limbs.

A particularly cruel add on was the shattering of the shoulder blades, which meant that when you slumped forward you were jarred awake by the pain of broken bones grinding together.

The wheel was cruel, but usually the victim died during the act of being softened, the screaming individuals surviving long enough to be put up for the crows tends to be a bit of a urban legend. One of the other key things was that the victims of those particular punishments (Broken on the wheel), were drunk to the point of unconsciousness as a mercy of the squeamish jailers.

The most horrific execution method was prescribed for Treason, where a victim was hung not to kill but to inflict pain, then his stomach was gashed open and his intestines were ripped out and burned while the victim usually was conscious and able to watch. Then the executioner quartered the limbs. Usually the victim pumped up on adrenaline caused by this public display survived through the quartering before he was mercifully beheaded.

The Spanish Donkey was another method, where the condemned straddled a wooden horse which came to a sharpened end, and weights were tied to the feet so that the victim was slowly torn in half. Death was quick or slow depending on the weigh decided on by the judge.

Forgot about the Iron Maiden, however the spikes were strategically placed to missed vital organs, and the victims usually lasted for two agonizing days of being pinned in that device.

[CaptainCrunch]

Looking at the pictures, at least they tied them up to take the weight off of their hands and they gave them the platforms to stand on instead of spiking their feet flat to the upright.

Far less painful then an actual crucifixion but probably still outright painful considering that they went through the center of the hand.

[flamesrule14]

Some foreigners have previously been crucified including a Belgian nun and a Japanese man, who later allowed footage of his ordeal to be used in a pornographic film. No one has ever died during the rituals.

Hmm that is uh weird. That is a porno I don't want to see.

[Bob]

[Thor]

Thats so messed up.

[peter12]

It's pretty weird. Live and let live. Not like they're being forced to do anything.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by peter12

It's pretty weird. Live and let live. Not like they're being forced to do anything.

You could apply that to pretty much anything. What about shooting heroin? That's pretty weird, but it's not like they are being forced to do anything.

It seems to me that anyone who would subject themselves to this kind of torture is suffering from a mental illness.

If a teenager scratches "death" in her arm with a pen knife, she goes to the shrink.

[FireInTheHole]

This thread is making me ill...........

[peter12]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You could apply that to pretty much anything. What about shooting heroin? That's pretty weird, but it's not like they are being forced to do anything.

It seems to me that anyone who would subject themselves to this kind of torture is suffering from a mental illness.

If a teenager scratches "death" in her arm with a pen knife, she goes to the shrink.

Well, you might be able to make the case for psychological or emotional addiction, but I don't really think this is the same as heroin.

Hey, I'm not saying I don't find it weird, but I'm also not saying that I would force them to go see a shrink or make them stop. The separation of Church and State goes both ways.

[Slava]

Wow. Where are the parents? Surely a minor is a minor, even a world away? No complaints of child abuse I guess...its a sign of devotion!