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Old 03-19-2008, 08:27 PM   #21
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True, they do, but that doesn't include sitting back observing with glee as the whole thing unfolds. It doesn't include basically using the girl because "she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company." That, my friend, is using a person. No wonder the girl cheated on him.

Not to defend her, she's just as unimpressive a human being.

Thing is, most guys...whether they will admit it or not...will ride out (excuse the pun) a good lay for as long as they can even if the woman is just right out horrible. From where I'm sitting, all the guy did here was protect himself. She was the one who was trying to trap him into a bad situation.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:30 PM   #22
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I remember in a genetics course I took, we were discussing dominant and recessive traits, and the case in point was how the allele for brown eyes was dominant over the allele for green and blue eyes. So basically, if your parents both have brown eyes, it is still possible to have a blue eyed child as they both might also carry the recessive blue eyed allele. Conversely, if both your parents have green or blue eyes, they cannot have a child with brown eyes, because if either one carried that allele, then it would be dispayed as it is dominant.

I think at least 2 students protested with the prof that it was not true because they brown eyes but both parents had blue eyes. After chatting with the prof after class, she said it happens every year and she felt bad that students had to find out that way.

To her credit, she did do some damage control talking about it maybe being an extremely rare mutation that affected the alleles so drastically as to change it completely. Technically speaking - possible... but not very likely at all.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:32 PM   #23
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Thing is, most guys...whether they will admit it or not...will ride out (excuse the pun) a good lay for as long as they can even if the woman is just right out horrible.
I don't know about that. If they're that unselective about who they lay, why can't they just go scrounge up some other little trick?
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From where I'm sitting, all the guy did here was protect himself. She was the one who was trying to trap him into a bad situation.
Nah, he went pretty far out of his way to show this girl up. As mentioned by others, you take the high road and it makes the other party look that much worse.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:55 PM   #24
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I don't know about that. If they're that unselective about who they lay, why can't they just go scrounge up some other little trick?

Nah, he went pretty far out of his way to show this girl up. As mentioned by others, you take the high road and it makes the other party look that much worse.

Taking the high road is overrated, there are some people...like the woman in this story, who deserve to be embarrassed badly. In a way, how else will they learn not to treat other people that way.
As for being "un-selective", well that's just not the point at all. I've been guilty of this, where I was sleeping with a woman I hated while still dating other women just because...it's kind of hard to give up a good thing
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:01 PM   #25
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I dont see him as an a-hole ...If someone tries to 100% screw you over and you catch them, wouldnt you want a little payback?
No. The guy is an over-the-top fatahead. (If this story is even true, and it's likely not.)

Payack?They're women, they're not our enemies.

In a nutshell:
Her: I'm pregnant.
Him: Are you sure?
Her: 100%
Him: Well, not by me.
Her: Huh?
Him: Vasectomy. Listen, its probably best if you pick up your stuff and go, but if you need someone to talk to the guy that got you pregnant, give me a call. Bye.

To go through the process of what this guy did, (not only after she said she was pregnant, but to use her the way he did before) he is just as bad as she is for trying to pin a pregnancy on him. He obviously has some issues with women and his own manhood if he has to resort to this sort of BS to feel good about getting one over on some woman.
So yeah; marriage made in heaven. The only good thing about this little tale is that he isn't able to breed.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:14 PM   #26
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No. The guy is an over-the-top fatahead. (If this story is even true, and it's likely not.)

Payack?They're women, they're not our enemies.

In a nutshell:
Her: I'm pregnant.
Him: Are you sure?
Her: 100%
Him: Well, not by me.
Her: Huh?
Him: Vasectomy. Listen, its probably best if you pick up your stuff and go, but if you need someone to talk to the guy that got you pregnant, give me a call. Bye.

To go through the process of what this guy did, (not only after she said she was pregnant, but to use her the way he did before) he is just as bad as she is for trying to pin a pregnancy on him. He obviously has some issues with women and his own manhood if he has to resort to this sort of BS to feel good about getting one over on some woman.
So yeah; marriage made in heaven. The only good thing about this little tale is that he isn't able to breed.
I disagree.

I would agree with you, if the woman had been honest.

She, however, slept with someone else and then lied to him about it. What if this guy had given up a major part of his life to raise this kid? His career? His schooling? An opportunity to travel?

She throws her relationship out the window by sleeping with a guy in a band and then boldly lies to her boyfriend's face. As far as I'm concerned, any class or dignity this woman deserved left when she started lying.

Although it's technically not criminal, I'm sure you could make a pretty solid fraud case here. I wonder if anyone has ever won a civil case based on a maternity case showing that a kid he raised was not his? In Canada, the best interest of the child is the prime factor and anyone who stands in place of the parent becomes liable for the child, but does that stop action being brought against a fraudulent mother?
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:26 PM   #27
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how would you bring civil charges against a fruadulent mother tho? Divorce her and keep 100%, that wouldnt be in the best interest of the child at all.

I saw a case like this on Dr. Phil and basically if you dont catch the fact that you are not the father in the first year or two, you're screwed for life.
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how would you bring civil charges against a fruadulent mother tho? Divorce her and keep 100%, that wouldnt be in the best interest of the child at all.

I saw a case like this on Dr. Phil and basically if you dont catch the fact that you are not the father in the first year or two, you're screwed for life.
I am assuming the woman has some kind of independent income source... but yeah I think you're probably right you are screwed if you don't deal with it immediately, I am just wondering if anyone has heard of any cases otherwise.

Anyways another reason why I think the woman gets what she deserves is the chance of STD spreading. She's most likely having unprotected sex with random band members... awesome. She might as well just stick her boyfriend's penis in a jar full of genital warts.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:33 PM   #29
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I disagree.

I would agree with you, if the woman had been honest.

She, however, slept with someone else and then lied to him about it. What if this guy had given up a major part of his life to raise this kid? His career? His schooling? An opportunity to travel?

She throws her relationship out the window by sleeping with a guy in a band and then boldly lies to her boyfriend's face. As far as I'm concerned, any class or dignity this woman deserved left when she started lying.

Although it's technically not criminal, I'm sure you could make a pretty solid fraud case here. I wonder if anyone has ever won a civil case based on a maternity case showing that a kid he raised was not his? In Canada, the best interest of the child is the prime factor and anyone who stands in place of the parent becomes liable for the child, but does that stop action being brought against a fraudulent mother?
Yes, she's dishonest and he's a jerk. Therefore they are made for each other.
I'm focusing on the man here, because I'm a man and I find his actions reprehensible. Hers are as well, of course, but if you're in a relationship as he describes it, your warning buzzer better be going crazy if she plays the pregnancy card, vasectomy or not.
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When I hear stories like this, It makes me wish there was a procedure for males that would allow them to control their biological breeding. Something similar to the birth control pill without all the side effects. Man, having your future controlled by 5 minutes of pleasure freaks me out. Its time the scientists did a favor for men who don't watch Oprah.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:39 PM   #31
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Yes, she's dishonest and he's a jerk. Therefore they are made for each other.
I'm focusing on the man here, because I'm a man and I find his actions reprehensible. Hers are as well, of course, but if you're in a relationship as he describes it, your warning buzzer better be going crazy if she plays the pregnancy card, vasectomy or not.
What he did was obviously pretty reprehensible. In the circumstances, however, it is more of an even out call. Had he not done that he would have been the victim. His actions put him on a level playing field, which also means they are justified. Definitely worth giving up victim status for this kind of poetic justice.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:39 PM   #32
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When I hear stories like this, It makes me wish there was a procedure for males that would allow them to control their biological breeding. Something similar to the birth control pill without all the side effects. Man, having your future controlled by 5 minutes of pleasure freaks me out. Its time the scientists did a favor for men who don't watch Oprah.
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When I hear stories like this, It makes me wish there was a procedure for males that would allow them to control their biological breeding. Something similar to the birth control pill without all the side effects. Man, having your future controlled by 5 minutes of pleasure freaks me out. Its time the scientists did a favor for men who don't watch Oprah.
I've heard of many guys out there who get a vasectomy and freeze some sperm first. Might not be such a bad idea when you hear stories like this. Just dont freeze the sperm yourself makes a big mess if the power goes out
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What he did was obviously pretty reprehensible. In the circumstances, however, it is more of an even out call. Had he not done that he would have been the victim. His actions put him on a level playing field, which also means they are justified. Definitely worth giving up victim status for this kind of poetic justice.
I'll agree on the even out call - they deserve each other. But his actions make him look like a really, really, small man. There are ways to even this out without looking like an industrial sized, community ###### bag.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:47 PM   #35
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Speaking as someone that's been in a similar position, without the snip-snip to back me up, it can be extremely frustrating. Thankfully, in my case, she wasn't very smart and I could count.
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I dont see him as an a-hole ...If someone tries to 100% screw you over and you catch them, wouldnt you want a little payback?
He used her for good sex then presented the documents.

She used him for good sex and tried to pull the baby is yours stunt.

One is no better than the other. In fact they both deserve each other.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:08 PM   #37
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It seems to me that we're just discussing the relative high ground of white trash here. They're both bad examples of their respective genders. I'd have to say that her actions were worse because they were potentially more damaging. The bottom line though is they deserve each other and their double wide.
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The beauty of being in the 10-15% of men that think they are dad but really are not is that you are still on the hook for child support. As soon as you stand in the place of being the parent, even if it is not your kid, you are on the hook. Best advice is to get a DNA test, it could save you thousands of dollars.
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this story has to be complete BS ... far to "engineered" ... who goes to that expense (lawyers).

can anyone find a source verifying its authenticity?
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