02-14-2008, 06:44 AM
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Question time!
If I purchased an iPhone, would I be able to use it unhindered on the Telus ($30) data plan?
Thanks.
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02-14-2008, 07:20 AM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by algernon
Question time!
If I purchased an iPhone, would I be able to use it unhindered on the Telus ($30) data plan?
Thanks.
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The current incarnation of the iPhone can only be used on Rogers in Canada (iPhone uses GSM and Rogers is the only GSM provider in Canada, Telus and Bell phones use CDMA protocol)
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02-14-2008, 07:56 AM
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#44
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Thanks! Is it going to stay that way for awhile? (the network situation)
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02-14-2008, 08:18 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Until either Apple makes a CDMA version of the iPhone (probably a matter of when not if) or another carrier deploys a GSM network in Canada (far more unlikely) yeah that'll be the situation.
Speculation is that there'll be a CDMA version of the iPhone in Canada on Bell, but that's probably just wishful thinking.
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02-14-2008, 08:23 AM
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I see... thanks.
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02-14-2008, 12:41 PM
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iPhone will work on Fido as well (which uses Rogers towers).
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02-14-2008, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by Burninator
iPhone will work on Fido as well (which uses Rogers towers).
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Yeah, but as Photon pointed out, the iPhone is not a Rogers or Fido phone, so you can't take advantage of those "unlimited" packages.
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02-14-2008, 02:51 PM
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by photon
Until either Apple makes a CDMA version of the iPhone (probably a matter of when not if) or another carrier deploys a GSM network in Canada (far more unlikely) yeah that'll be the situation.
Speculation is that there'll be a CDMA version of the iPhone in Canada on Bell, but that's probably just wishful thinking.
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But if Apple came out with a CDMA version of the phone it wouldn't be able to just work on Telus or Bell unless they sold it right? I haven't used a CDMA phone in a while but it uses the ESN of the phone or something right?
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02-14-2008, 02:53 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Correct, they'd have to actually sell the phone otherwise they wouldn't allow it on their network, no SIM cards like GSM has.
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03-18-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by photon
You don't have to tell them, they know what kind of phone you are using.
That's the small print of that $20 plan, it has to be browser traffic from a Rogers phone through the built in WAP browser.
They can tell the phone from the IMEI, and which browser from the browser itself; it send out info identifying itself whenever a page is requested. So on the iPhone the browser constantly says to pages requested "Hi, I'm iPhone Safari".
I'll be hugely surprised if you aren't being charged 5cents / KB
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Update: >70 mb used.... $0
I don't know how it worked but it did
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03-18-2008, 11:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton
Update: >70 mb used.... $0
I don't know how it worked but it did
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So I'm getting an iPhone.
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03-18-2008, 11:40 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Hm, interesting. I read somewhere that it may take a few months for them to catch up with it, but this makes me more interested in getting an iPhone.
You can get them refurb for $249 from AT&T right now too if you know someone in the US. Hm....
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03-18-2008, 03:21 PM
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I "heard" it's not only on the iPhone, but also with Blackberrys, if you install Opra, you can surf the net for free too. But AnythingButEdmonton, damn, 70 MB's to take the risk?? Imagine what you'd do if you were actually were billed for it? If my calculations are correct 1000 kb = 1 MB and at $0.05/kb, you just dodged a $3,500 bullet. Nice!
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03-18-2008, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fleury
I "heard" it's not only on the iPhone, but also with Blackberrys, if you install Opra, you can surf the net for free too. But AnythingButEdmonton, damn, 70 MB's to take the risk?? Imagine what you'd do if you were actually were billed for it? If my calculations are correct 1000 kb = 1 MB and at $0.05/kb, you just dodged a $3,500 bullet. Nice!
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Beware of Opera. It's ok to surf using opera mini if you don't intent to hit a lot of wap sites, but if you do, opera mini often tends to return a user agent string of Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini; en; U; ssr). I know this doesn't mean anything to you, but some wap sites require a device user agent to recognize the device you are using. Of course, this does not affect web browsing at all, only if you intent to use on some wap environments.
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03-19-2008, 02:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
Hm, interesting. I read somewhere that it may take a few months for them to catch up with it, but this makes me more interested in getting an iPhone.
You can get them refurb for $249 from AT&T right now too if you know someone in the US. Hm....
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I have heard this too. I would be very wary, and wait a few months. For those brave people who are testing it out, dont be surprised if you see a huge bill coming in the coming months.
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03-19-2008, 10:42 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by fleury
I "heard" it's not only on the iPhone, but also with Blackberrys, if you install Opra, you can surf the net for free too. But AnythingButEdmonton, damn, 70 MB's to take the risk?? Imagine what you'd do if you were actually were billed for it? If my calculations are correct 1000 kb = 1 MB and at $0.05/kb, you just dodged a $3,500 bullet. Nice!
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I figured it would be harder for them to charge me if I went big. Plus i had called the CSR's every day for the first week to make sure what I was using is covered. They made a note on my account that I had checked with them so I wasnt too worried.
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03-19-2008, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton
I figured it would be harder for them to charge me if I went big. Plus i had called the CSR's every day for the first week to make sure what I was using is covered. They made a note on my account that I had checked with them so I wasnt too worried.
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Good thing that you did that, but most csr's know nothing at all. I have heard many stories where information given out by a CSR is totally wrong. I suggest you read:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...0&page=1&pp=15
It looks like they are slowly implementing IMEI filtering. Dont mean to sound condescending but just be careful.
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03-19-2008, 11:39 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Jing
Good thing that you did that, but most csr's know nothing at all. I have heard many stories where information given out by a CSR is totally wrong. I suggest you read:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...0&page=1&pp=15
It looks like they are slowly implementing IMEI filtering. Dont mean to sound condescending but just be careful. |
Legally, if a CSR says something, it represents what the company's policy is. It doesn't matter if they don't know anything, it's not up to the consumer to decide whether or not a CSR is knowledgeable.
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03-19-2008, 12:18 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
Legally, if a CSR says something, it represents what the company's policy is. It doesn't matter if they don't know anything, it's not up to the consumer to decide whether or not a CSR is knowledgeable.
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It is also clearly stated that these plans will not work for non roger phones.
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