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Old 01-24-2008, 01:11 PM   #61
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OK so now I am more confused than ever. My only question is this:

Will that 50W Peavey Tube Amp get the job done for me who will be playing with a drummer and another guitar player? AND how does the 50W tube amp compare to a 100W solid state amp??!!?!?!

Kermitology??? What are your thoughts on this?

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I have 50 watt tube... and it is plenty loud I dont even turn it up all the way... this is playing small clubs not having my amp mic'ed

IMO 50 watt tube is louder then 100W ss

Also comparing 50 watt tube to 100 watt tube you can barley notice a huge difference... its only like 2 dB difference... just because you double the watts it doesnt double the sound output...

here is a GREAT thread to read on a guitar forum

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum...d.php?t=149114

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As a rule we have for SS:

10-30W: practice on your own.
30-50W: practice with a band or recording.
50 to 100W (or more): Gigs (as much wattage as you ever need)

And for valves:

<20W: practice on your own
20-30W Band practice/Recording
30-50W Gigging.
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To put this into perspective a 100W amp is ten times more powerful, electrically, than a 10W amp, but only twice as loud (as a rule of thumb).
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:15 PM   #62
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OK so now I am more confused than ever. My only question is this:

Will that 50W Peavey Tube Amp get the job done for me who will be playing with a drummer and another guitar player? AND how does the 50W tube amp compare to a 100W solid state amp??!!?!?!

Kermitology??? What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks
You'll be loud enough in my opinion.

I can keep up with drums and bass on 30W, but we were playing in a very small space so I kicked it up to 60W.

Line out is great if you ever played a show. I also like Peavy amps, used to have two Studio Pro 112's (which can also compete with drums depending on your scene)
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:30 PM   #63
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I actually just sold a Studio Pro while here because I don't want to pay to have it shipped home...besides selling stuff in the north is EASY and you get top dollar. I got $400 for my Studio Pro!

Thanks for the advice though guys, been a great help.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:35 PM   #64
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I actually just sold a Studio Pro while here because I don't want to pay to have it shipped home...besides selling stuff in the north is EASY and you get top dollar. I got $400 for my Studio Pro!

Thanks for the advice though guys, been a great help.
If you are worried about the loudness of the Valveking go with the 212... You can probally blow over a midget with that
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:56 PM   #65
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Bang on!

There are some amps that are solid state that sound really good for what they meant to do. Roland Jazz Chorus have amazing clean tones and are solid state. If you are on a budget I would take a Roland Cube or Vox Valvetronix over a Marshall MG or line 6 spider every day.

A new company called Blackheart have some interesting looking amps that I cant wait to try out.

http://www.blackhearteng.com/

that little 1 watter looks cool
Wow!!! That video they have on there is amazing and hilarious. This looks like a really fun company. That video is everything I've ever wanted in playing guitar
http://www.blackhearteng.com/stuff.html

(my future self comes back in time and shows me how to do things and then I wake up in a gaggle of beautiful girls and I decide to just play some more)
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:57 PM   #66
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Ok thanks everyone for their opinions! You talked me out of the Marshall and into a Peavey Tube amp...I hope it works out!!!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:44 PM   #67
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Wanted to bump this and see what you did MJK, Did you get your gear yet?

I got the 5 watt Blackheart combo and it sounds AMAZING... they are sending me the head and cab sometime here too. I cant wait to do some recording with it..
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:33 PM   #68
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I got the Gibson Les Paul, Peavy 50W Tube amp and thennn...

I picked up an Ibanez AEF Acustic/Electric guitar...I had a Masa before and loved it so I hope this one will sound just as nice.

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Old 02-28-2008, 10:36 PM   #69
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Good deal... How do you like the Peavey? Is it loud enough for you?

Edit: And that Ibanez is just plain sexy! Man I love Quilted Maple! I am getting a custom guitar built and it is going to be Quilted Maple... drool

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Old 02-29-2008, 12:27 AM   #70
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Gretsch makes pretty incredible amps
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:53 PM   #71
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Good deal... How do you like the Peavey? Is it loud enough for you?

Edit: And that Ibanez is just plain sexy! Man I love Quilted Maple! I am getting a custom guitar built and it is going to be Quilted Maple... drool
I haven't played anything yet becuase I am still in Nunavut. I will be back in Newfoundland in 8 days!!!!!

Can't wait to play the Les Paul. I also switched colors and went with the Black Cherry Ibanez:

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Just got a jonny greenwood telecaster.

What can you tell me about pickups?
I want to put in a humbucker at the bridge(something that will scream) and something less wussy than whats given at the neck.
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Old 03-16-2008, 01:50 PM   #73
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If you still want to stick with the Marshall amp and want something that is cool and kooky you could get a Full Stack Jr.
Or for a good general you could get a Marshall TSL602
Its a combo amp so you wouldn't have to lug around the head and the cab. Granted I only play bass so i'm just used to dealing with bass amplification but every Marshall amp i have heard sounds great.
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I'm just following this thread, relatively new to guitar (fender american deluxe tele), and was wondering what the difference was between the sound of a solid state amp and a tube amp. Does it make a difference with what guitar is used (les paul, strat, tele, etc)? Sound? Style of music played?

Thanks in advance...my crap amp will be replaced in the future.
Think of it like the difference between listening to a CD and listening to an LP on a decent system. The CD just lacks that ... special something ... that the vinyl has.

I can't believe no-one's mentioned the Fender Deluxe. A fantastic-sounding amp for it's price (a new one will run you about $700-$800). I've played in numerous live settings with guitarists playing through these amps and love their tone and clarity.

http://www.fender.com/products//sear...tno=0213202000
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Just picked up a Gibson Les Paul Voodoo. Love it, LOVE IT! and a Boss ME 50 pedal. sawwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet stuff.
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Just picked up a Gibson Les Paul Voodoo. Love it, LOVE IT! and a Boss ME 50 pedal. sawwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet stuff.
Post up a pic sleaze bag!

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Fancy....I only had to get out a magnifying glass to see it!

A man with your kind of money should be able to make bigger pictures!

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Fancy....I only had to get out a magnifying glass to see it!

A man with your kind of money should be able to make bigger pictures!

for the blind people in the crowd

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Just got a jonny greenwood telecaster.

What can you tell me about pickups?
I want to put in a humbucker at the bridge(something that will scream) and something less wussy than whats given at the neck.
What kind of amp do you have? New pickups with a crap amp is pretty much the most pointless thing you can do...

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Think of it like the difference between listening to a CD and listening to an LP on a decent system. The CD just lacks that ... special something ... that the vinyl has.

I can't believe no-one's mentioned the Fender Deluxe. A fantastic-sounding amp for it's price (a new one will run you about $700-$800). I've played in numerous live settings with guitarists playing through these amps and love their tone and clarity.

http://www.fender.com/products//sear...tno=0213202000
I dont think the Fender OD would have fit in to what MJK played (Tool etc)
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