Spanking Raises Chances of Risky, Deviant Sexual Behavior

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

You were able to keep them from all injuries and accidents?

Pretty well, my daughter fell down a few stairs one time and my son bumped his head on the coffee table and my son was as active a child as there is out there.

Neither of them even got close to being electrocuted, being mauled or being run over in traffic.

[Sparks]

Originally Posted by redforever

I don't believe in beating people period.

The Leafs have the same view.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by redforever

Pretty well, my daughter fell down a few stairs one time and my son bumped his head on the coffee table and my son was as active a child as there is out there.

Neither of them even got close to being electrocuted, being mauled or being run over in traffic.

Neither did mine.

If we were at the park as a family for instance I thought it was important to give my children a little bit of freedom. Always within sight. Don't go into the road. When they didn't listen, a little swat was very effective.

But I'm evil I guess.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Neither did mine.

If we were at the park as a family for instance I thought it was important to give my children a little bit of freedom. Always within sight. Don't go into the road. When they didn't listen, a little swat was very effective.

But I'm evil I guess.

I have never called you evil. I just merely pointed out that for examples you used, discipline at that point is not the primary issue, safety of the child is.

And it is my belief that toddlers should not only be kept in sight but they should also be kept in reach.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by redforever

Of course you are once again offering your 2 bits of so called "funny" advice about a topic that is not very funny.

I don't believe in beating people period.

This isnt a moral referendum on physical abuse.

This is a discussion regarding whether or not spanking your kids affects their future regarding sexual deviancy.

You dont think a discussion regarding spanking being the causal link to future sexual deviance is funny? Then you must think that this article and study are completely correct and accurate.

I, on the other hand, very sincerely doubt it, I believe that theres is likely more to it than just spanking.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by redforever

I have never called you evil. I just merely pointed out that for examples you used, discipline at that point is not the primary issue, safety of the child is.

And it is my belief that toddlers should not only be kept in sight but they should also be kept in reach.

I didn't raise my kids in the city, so there's a difference.

I didn't mean to say you called me evil...it was just a shot at the overtones in this thread.

I imagine that you have some visions of what I've described that aren't entirely accurate. Oh well.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by fotze

Exactly. When they soil themself you should show them their mistake by putting their face in the mess. Show them who is boss.

Really? Cause that is how I taught my dog not to crap on the carpet back in the day.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Nah, you're playing it right.

Locke's Boarding School for the Betterment of Young Minds.

If we keep this thread going long enough you'll find someone willing to give away ...i mean send away their 2 or 3 year old for higher education.

Don't give him ideas.

He teaches little kids how to play soccer.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by redforever

Of course you are once again offering your 2 bits of so called "funny" advice about a topic that is not very funny.

I don't believe in beating people period.

A little humor never hurt nobody.

[Crazy Flamer]

I'm with Cheese on this one.

Can we, as grown, rational, level-headed adults not find a better way to discipline our children other that to cause them physical pain?

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Azure

A little humor never hurt nobody.

Well, count me as one who does not think the idea of beating people has humorous inflections.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Geezuz Krist Tball...dominate your children? What are you King of the Jungle? Lowering yourself to your kids level? What kind of comment is that? Seriously?

Cut the elitist BS, Cheese.

Dominance: dom·i·nance /ˈdɒmənəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dom-uh-nuhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun
1.rule; control; authority; ascendancy.
2.the condition of being dominant.
3.Psychology. the disposition of an individual to assert control in dealing with others.

If a parent can not assert control over their toddler, they aren't good parents. Period.

You don't approve of a smack on the ass if the kids do something very stupid/dangerous/disrespectful. Fine. If having a fireside chat with a 3 year old works everytime, you must have some good genes. Don't go hooting at everyone who disagrees with your outlook and finds a different means of parenting that is effective.

I'm with Displaced on this one. There's a difference between discipline and abuse... some people seem to be skewing the line here.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by redforever

Well, count me as one who does not think the idea of beating people has humorous inflections.

I'm sure Locke meant that you should beat the hell out of them.

Geez.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

You think a 2 year old following a puppy into the street for instance is testing me? I think he wants that damn puppy and has no clue what dangers await him on that quest.

And if you're not being elitist please explain the last line. You are insinuating that you are better than me which frankly is nothing new for you.

I don't use force now at all. Nice try though.

So letting your toddler follow your puppy onto the street is cause for a good arse whuppin? I think the danger isnt following the dog. Seriously...and that is being elitist...just so you dont have to say so.
There is never a time when smacking your kid a good one is something to be proud of...

edit
I see redforever and others basically said the same thing LOL.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Cheese

So letting your toddler follow your puppy onto the street is cause for a good arse whuppin? I think the danger isnt following the dog. Seriously...and that is being elitist...just so you dont have to say so.
There is never a time when smacking your kid a good one is something to be proud of...

edit
I see redforever and others basically said the same thing LOL.

Way to turn the tables Cheese! Well played!

You said a toddler would be testing me....I disagreed and gave that as an example why. Would you like to address what I was actually arguing?

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

Cut the elitist BS, Cheese.

Dominance: dom·i·nance /ˈdɒmənəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dom-uh-nuhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun
1.rule; control; authority; ascendancy.
2.the condition of being dominant.
3.Psychology. the disposition of an individual to assert control in dealing with others.

If a parent can not assert control over their toddler, they aren't good parents. Period.

You don't approve of a smack on the ass if the kids do something very stupid/dangerous/disrespectful. Fine. If having a fireside chat with a 3 year old works everytime, you must have some good genes. Don't go hooting at everyone who disagrees with your outlook and finds a different means of parenting that is effective.

I'm with Displaced on this one. There's a difference between discipline and abuse... some people seem to be skewing the line here.

Cut the crap Tball...and I know damned well what "dominance" means! Quite frankly I dont give a flying if you or others think Im elitest because I dont beat my children. There is never a good reason for force no matter the idiotic reasons you spew. If you arent able to use your mind and your abilities as a parent to outsmart a toddler then maybe you shouldnt have thought of having kids in the first place. Stupid, dangerous and disrespectful things dont require pain to outgrow.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Quite frankly I dont give a flying if you or others think Im elitest because I dont beat my children. .

1. I don't think you're elitist because you don't beat your children. I think you're elitist because you belittle others that don't agree with you. Consistantly.

2. Spanking does not equate with beating. Ever.

3. I don't beat my children, never have.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Way to turn the tables Cheese! Well played!

You said a toddler would be testing me....I disagreed and gave that as an example why. Would you like to address what I was actually arguing?

Oh go fark yourself Displaced...I never turned any tables...I simply used your example against you. We cant read your mind or read into what you supposedly think or type.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

1. I don't think you're elitist because you don't beat your children. I think you're elitist because you belittle others that don't agree with you. Consistantly.

2. Spanking does not equate with beating. Ever.

3. I don't beat my children, never have.

So using your examples doesnt make you elitest? I would think you are a minority.

Spanking DOES equate with beating...all of the time.

Whatever you want to believe go for it.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Oh go fark yourself Displaced...I never turned any tables...I simply used your example against you. We cant read your mind or read into what you supposedly think or type.

It was clear as a bell what I typed and you just flat out ignored it.