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Old 02-20-2008, 07:55 AM   #41
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I don't think they needed you to be involved in the baptism to carry it out.

There was a show on PBS last week about the LDS church and according to the story millions (the number might have been 200 million but I can't remember) of deceased people have been baptized posthumously in Mormon temples.

They had some fella on there who had left the church and he said he was physically dunked in the name of some dead person 20 or 30 names in a stretch and it went on all the time.
Included in that 200 million (or so):

Adolf Hitler
Adolf Eichmann
Eva Braun
Joseph Goebbels
Herman Goering
Heinrich Himmler
Benito Mussolini
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:18 AM   #42
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Ever since this thread popped up, I've been humming Iron Maiden and doing random fist pumps.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:26 AM   #43
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Included in that 200 million (or so):

Adolf Hitler
Adolf Eichmann
Eva Braun
Joseph Goebbels
Herman Goering
Heinrich Himmler
Benito Mussolini
Link to this stuff? Interesting.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:32 AM   #44
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Talk about a twisted faith, and you're right, same applies to their predictions
Twisted faith? Any religion that is based on a guy using magic rocks to read tablets from God out of a hat is on the straight and narrow in my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:51 AM   #45
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I think this is more of an attempt to skew something that could be true and put them side by side with things that most people wouldn't think to be true, thus making the one that could be true look silly.

I believe a NAU and world government could definitely happen, and I believe there are some conspirators out there trying to make it happen, but I really doubt the antichrist and mark of the beast business.
Yep no doubt if the religious aspects of the post were removed methinks the answers are entirely different.

Are there those(corporations etc.) who would like to see one world government with a set of rules which favor big business for example? Is the possibility that to combat identity theft, theft in general that we could move from the tech they have now to embedded chips?

Personally I would have NEVER have thought the European Union was possible and now they just keep adding countries. North America forms a union to compete --Ditto Asia and South America and eventually Africa.

Don't know about you but that sure does NOT seem like a remote possibility. More like an eventual outcome of the global economy.

Ditto the concerns about theft.

Wonder how many would answer yes if the religious parts are removed. I know I would.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:04 AM   #46
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Some say The European Union is rapidly fulfilling prophecy in becoming the prophesied revived Roman Empire

http://www.raptureready.com/abc/Roman_Empire.html
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:27 AM   #47
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668 - neighbor of the beast.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:47 AM   #48
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And I'm called a conspiracy theorist? Wow.
I wouldn't put very much credit to that tittle considering who called you it
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:58 AM   #49
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Ever since this thread popped up, I've been humming Iron Maiden and doing random fist pumps.
Me too. And the theme from Good Times:

End Times.
Any time you meet a payment.
End Times.
Any time you need a friend.
End Times.
Any time you're out from under.

Not getting hastled, not getting hustled.
Keepin' your head above water,
Making a wave when you can.

Temporary lay offs.
End Times.
Easy credit rip offs.
End Times.
Scratchin' and surviving.
End Times.
Hangin in a chow line
End Times.
Ain't we lucky we got 'em
End Times.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:04 AM   #50
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Ever since this thread popped up, I've been humming Iron Maiden and doing random fist pumps.
Hilarious! I've been doing the same thing. It was driving my wife nuts last night, especially when Phaneuf (or Fluffy as she calls him) scored his second goal and I went into a shredding air guitar solo in celebration, a la Ted Logan and Bill S. Preston, Esq.! Now I must go listen to some Bruce Dickenson!
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:09 AM   #51
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http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=258

Here's the report about wealth and religiosity that I was talking about, found it.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:16 AM   #52
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Hilarious! I've been doing the same thing. It was driving my wife nuts last night, especially when Phaneuf (or Fluffy as she calls him) scored his second goal and I went into a shredding air guitar solo in celebration, a la Ted Logan and Bill S. Preston, Esq.! Now I must go listen to some Bruce Dickenson!
I also shaved my beard into a handlebar mustache, much to the disconcernment of my co-workers. You gotta love the shredders.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:16 AM   #53
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Reading this stuff is only slightly less fun than reading comic books. I think it is the lack of pictures.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:19 AM   #54
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Thats exactly why this 'endtimes' crap has gotten such a foothold on our society.

Especially amongst the older religious people who were brought up in the Baptist theology....and were taught this stuff in Sunday School. Those same people were gullible enough to believe Hal Lindsey when he said the planets aligning in 1986 meant the end of the world was here...and they're STILL gullible enough to believe everything they read on the internet.
This stuff has been around the beginning. It's something odd within the human genetic makeup that encourages the development of eschatology. I would actually blame it's increase on scientific modernity which challenges the reasoning behind millenarianism but doesn't actually develop anything that replaces the psychological need that humans have when it comes to believing in a new age or end of times.

Secularists have the same need, but put in different terms.
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Twisted faith? Any religion that is based on a guy using magic rocks to read tablets from God out of a hat is on the straight and narrow in my opinion.
Does anyone remember the South Park episode about the history of Mormonism? I've been trying to locate it on YouTube, but have been quite unsuccessful.
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Does anyone remember the South Park episode about the history of Mormonism? I've been trying to locate it on YouTube, but have been quite unsuccessful.
Go to www.allsp.com .
Every single episode has been uploaded to the site.
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This stuff has been around the beginning. It's something odd within the human genetic makeup that encourages the development of eschatology. I would actually blame it's increase on scientific modernity which challenges the reasoning behind millenarianism but doesn't actually develop anything that replaces the psychological need that humans have when it comes to believing in a new age or end of times.

Secularists have the same need, but put in different terms.
I don't know about that. Jewish eschatology has its roots in the Babylonian exile, and it was a phenomenon that increased in poularity surprisingly quickly. The Seleucid period was also a watershed moment for eschatological fanaticism, as were the Jewish Wars which eventually ended with the destruction of Jerusalem c. 70 C.E. The pockets of apocalytpicism that persist within Christian sects today pale in comparison to the intensity of the Second Temple period of Jewish history.
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I don't know about that. Jewish eschatology has its roots in the Babylonian exile, and it was a phenomenon that increased in poularity surprisingly quickly. The Seleucid period was also a watershed moment for eschatological fanaticism, as were the Jewish Wars which eventually ended with the destruction of Jerusalem c. 70 C.E. The pockets of apocalytpicism that persist within Christian sects today pale in comparison to the intensity of the Second Temple period of Jewish history.
Actually, I do remember that. Wasn't the period of Christ considered to be an almost feverish period of millenarian movements?

What's your opinion on Karen Armstrong's thesis on fundamentalism and eschatology being the result of modernity?
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Does anyone remember the South Park episode about the history of Mormonism? I've been trying to locate it on YouTube, but have been quite unsuccessful.
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