02-19-2008, 12:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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Castro Resigns as Cuba's President
Not a bad guy, as far as dictators go.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...rvaiWh-7P7JMdg
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HAVANA (AFP) - Fidel Castro resigned Tuesday as president and commander in chief of Cuba in a message published in the online version of the official daily Granma.
"I neither will aspire to nor will I accept -- I repeat -- I neither will aspire to nor will I accept, the position of president of the council of state and commander in chief," wrote the Cuban leader, who had been in power for almost 50 years.
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The question is, where does Cuba go from here?
Last edited by HotHotHeat; 02-19-2008 at 12:58 AM.
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02-19-2008, 01:12 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary,AB
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Well I just hope everything remains all right down there. My wife and a few of her friends are in Cuba right now and do not leave until Saturday!
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02-19-2008, 01:16 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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When Castro came to power he was infinitely better than Batista but I was hoping he would put some kind of democratic succession in place, such as Franco did in Spain. I fear all the gangsters and landed gentry will move back in and rape the country like they once did.
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02-19-2008, 02:18 AM
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My face is a bum!
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^ Not on Team America's watch they won't. F#%& yeah!
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02-19-2008, 07:49 AM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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This is one very poor country.
Just like it could have used some socialism in the 1950's, it can now use some capitalism.
There's an optimum balance there that the Caribbean and many parts of the world struggle to find . . . . and people suffer as a result.
Still, the people with the guns are still in charge and the people with the guns are probably going to stay in charge.
The brother, however, seems more likely than Fidel to ease up on the long ago disgraced tenets of communism that have rendered this place one of the poorest around.
The people at the top won't change but you're likely to see a push towards capitalism.
Cowperson
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02-19-2008, 08:08 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
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Castro was a monster. Simple as that. Wonder why Cuba doesn't have a high HIV/AIDS prevalence like a lot of other Caribbean countries? Castro introduced mandatory testing and threw all those infected into concentration camps and let them die.
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02-19-2008, 08:25 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter12
Castro was a monster. Simple as that. Wonder why Cuba doesn't have a high HIV/AIDS prevalence like a lot of other Caribbean countries? Castro introduced mandatory testing and threw all those infected into concentration camps and let them die.
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My understanding is that he separated them and their families from the general population when the AIDS epidemic started but that is no longer the case. Do you have any proof for the concentration camps?
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02-19-2008, 08:34 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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It's really too bad the US are such jerks to that poor country. I'll be interested to see what happens with Cuba over the next few years with Castro gone.
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02-19-2008, 08:42 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Removed by Mod
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Hunh. We're also flying out...on Sunday(same day as elections, i believe). I doubt there'll be revolution in the streets, but the unknown is slightly unnerving, none the less.
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02-19-2008, 09:09 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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I was under the impression from my Latin American history professor that Raul was not a good alternative to Fidel. He may be more oppressive, was I misled?
I understand the gaming industry is licking thier chops, waiting for the opportunity to make some inroads.
This is all hearsay, as we don't have much access to the daily workings of Cuba here in the States.
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02-19-2008, 09:15 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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yeah, Raul is no boy scout either. He's been there since ay one, was a big participant in the revolutionary uprising. He's not the powerful presence his brother Fidel is, though, which gives some people hope of a change.
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02-19-2008, 09:23 AM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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The big question is, what impact this will have on the price and availability of Cuban cigars?
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02-19-2008, 10:36 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: up north (by the airport)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Moe
I was under the impression from my Latin American history professor that Raul was not a good alternative to Fidel. He may be more oppressive, was I misled?
I understand the gaming industry is licking thier chops, waiting for the opportunity to make some inroads.
This is all hearsay, as we don't have much access to the daily workings of Cuba here in the States.
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When Castro came to power, Raul (along with Che Guevera) embraced Marxist communism much more than Fidel did. Fidel was never really a true communist, he was more of a chameleon who turned to whatever political ideology would secure his grip on power.
A lot of Canadians see Fidel as this charming socialist who stood up to the Americans. Yes he is charismatic and yes, he stood up to the U.S. But don't forget about the bloodshed. He was responsible for the massacre of thousands of people who didn't support his regime when he took power.
I just finished reading this book, " the man who invented fidel". Good read, and great insight into some of the cold-war tensions of the time.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=DE_I...mbnail#PPP1,M1
Last edited by Fuzzy McGillicuddy; 02-19-2008 at 10:41 AM.
Reason: added book link
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02-19-2008, 10:44 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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Thanks for the links, folks! Always good to get a fresh perspective.
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02-19-2008, 11:08 AM
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Norm!
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I've never understood the respect for Che Guervara, he was a murderer, a rapist and a thug who prayed on the weak, and he died basically begging for his life and trying to leverage his name to survive.
I'm sure that the executioner who drew the short straw and got the honor of plugging him prayed that he would shut up and die like a man.
Instead he screeched, "Do you know who I am, I'm worth more alive then dead"
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Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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02-19-2008, 11:12 AM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I've never understood the respect for Che Guervara,
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. . . . . because he makes a helluva t-shirt.
Cowperson
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02-19-2008, 11:19 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Cowperson
. . . . . because he makes a helluva t-shirt.
Cowperson
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Yeah you got me there.
I just never understood making him the face of a revolutionary, he was a failure at it.
If your going to make the face of the revolution and put it on your T-Shirt, then you might as well be as contraversial as possible and put Stalin on your shirt.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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02-19-2008, 11:23 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
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Yeah you got me there.
I just never understood making him the face of a revolutionary, he was a failure at it.
If your going to make the face of the revolution and put it on your T-Shirt, then you might as well be as contraversial as possible and put Stalin on your shirt.
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Yeah, but then Socialists would have to be honest about their absolute disregard for human life.
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