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Old 02-18-2008, 08:07 PM   #1
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http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnBAN554443.html
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The men on death row in Bauchi state include a 52-year-old sentenced in 2004 for getting his teenage step-daughter pregnant and another who was sentenced in 2002 for having sex 13 times with his friend's wife, the agency said.


The report did not say how many people were facing such penalties in 11 other northern Nigerian states that have criminal courts using sharia law. Such data is not collated centrally.


The Bauchi convicts awaiting the amputation of their hands include a 46-year-old trader, Husseini Maidoya, who was convicted in 2002 for hacking off the leg of his wife after accusing her of unfaithfulness.


A sharia court had then ruled that Maidoya be amputated without the application of anaesthesia.
And screw the Muslims in Canada who think it should be brought here.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:16 PM   #2
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you forgot this part

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Punishments have been rare since 2000 as several of the sentences, including those of six women condemned to death by stoning for adultery, were overturned on appeal.
also i agree it shouldnt be allowed...we have our laws...we all live under them.

having said all that, people should know the consequences of their actions..
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:22 PM   #3
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Is Canada thinking of adopting Sharia Law? Arm cutting and everything? I'd be pretty surprised to see that day...
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:23 PM   #4
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Is Canada thinking of adopting Sharia Law? Arm cutting and everything? I'd be pretty surprised to see that day...
There was a debate on it a while back....I can't recall off hand...but a certain group wanted it to be implemented in Canada.

It was shot down pretty harshly....and I hope it stays that way.
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also i agree it shouldnt be allowed...we have our laws...we all live under them.

having said all that, people should know the consequences of their actions..
The thing is....we don't exactly have people hacking off someone's leg because they were deemed 'unfaithful.'

Both the 'action'...and the 'consequence' are equally ignorant actions.
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There was a debate on it a while back....I can't recall off hand...but a certain group wanted it to be implemented in Canada.

It was shot down pretty harshly....and I hope it stays that way.
There has never been any debate about full sharia law. The Sharia courts would be more or less limited to family law matters. Similar courts had been running in Ontario for both Jews and Catholics for decades. The potential Sharia courts were strongly opposed by various feminist groups. The end result was that all religious courts were banned in Ontario. Not sure what the status is in the rest of the country. You can still get parts of Sharia law through arbitrators though. This requires both parties consent ahead of time. Also, the arbitration cannot result in anything that would illegal. ex. cutting off people's hands.
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There was a debate on it a while back....I can't recall off hand...but a certain group wanted it to be implemented in Canada.

It was shot down pretty harshly....and I hope it stays that way.
I'm not sure of the details of this, but since you seem a little worried about it, let me say that I'm pretty confident sharia law will never be implemented in Canada.

Multiculturalism doesn't mean "we'll go along with whatever you want." Canada is a country that embraces pluralism. Sharia is antithetical to pluralism. Even if Christians weren't the dominant religious group in Canada, it would still be a non-starter.
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Didn't the Anglican church say adopting the Sharia Law should be a conversation point in the UK?

Also, isn't Ontario allowing polygamist marriages to be recognized in Ontario when the multiple marriages were performed in a country where polygamy is allowed?
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The thing is....we don't exactly have people hacking off someone's leg because they were deemed 'unfaithful.'

Both the 'action'...and the 'consequence' are equally ignorant actions.
I wont agrue that one bit...i am sure people in other countries are laughing at us because child rapists get off after 2 years....or a person convicted of murder got 5 years....

again know the consequences of your actions, regardless of how ignorant they are, at least know what you are getting yourself into..maybe you will think twice...

ignorance is something this world isnt lacking
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Can we adopt portions of it? I hear they cut off the wangs of rapists...
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Is Canada thinking of adopting Sharia Law? Arm cutting and everything? I'd be pretty surprised to see that day...
Judging by how often this subject comes up you'd think there would be some sort of large conspiracy to bring Sharia law to Canada, but it isn't actually happening in reality.

Some people, apparently, believe our society and legal system is so delicate that the whole thing can be subverted or even turned upside down by a tiny number of uneducated fundamentalist nitwit immigrants who probably don't even speak English.
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Judging by how often this subject comes up you'd think there would be some sort of large conspiracy to bring Sharia law to Canada, but it isn't actually happening in reality.

Some people, apparently, believe our society and legal system is so delicate that the whole thing can be subverted or even turned upside down by a tiny number of uneducated fundamentalist nitwit immigrants who probably don't even speak English.
yup..the minority always have the loudest voice..if its being reported, chances are it isnt mainstream thinking....
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I wont agrue that one bit...i am sure people in other countries are laughing at us because child rapists get off after 2 years....or a person convicted of murder got 5 years....

again know the consequences of your actions, regardless of how ignorant they are, at least know what you are getting yourself into..maybe you will think twice...

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Well, its no secret that we need much harsher penalties for MANY crimes that are committed here in Canada.

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Well, its not secret that we need much harsher penalties for MANY crimes that are committed here in Canada.

well than maybe sharia law is an option, but we can do it canadian style, instead stoning we will pebble or instead of cutting off hands, we cut off fingernails...
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well than maybe sharia law is an option, but we can do it canadian style, instead stoning we will pebble or instead of cutting off hands, we cut off fingernails...
I don't think so.

Maybe just locking rapists up and throwing away the key would be a 'better' option.
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I don't think so.

Maybe just locking rapists up and throwing away the key would be a 'better' option.
but what if a child found that key...
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but what if a child found that key...

Hope they aren't child rapists?
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There was a debate on it a while back....I can't recall off hand...but a certain group wanted it to be implemented in Canada.

It was shot down pretty harshly....and I hope it stays that way.
Haha, off-hand!
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:02 PM   #19
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Heres the 1st link to a very good BBC program on Sharia Law. Its a 6 parter...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BtBEg3PL4kc
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There has never been any debate about full sharia law. The Sharia courts would be more or less limited to family law matters. Similar courts had been running in Ontario for both Jews and Catholics for decades. The potential Sharia courts were strongly opposed by various feminist groups. The end result was that all religious courts were banned in Ontario. Not sure what the status is in the rest of the country. You can still get parts of Sharia law through arbitrators though. This requires both parties consent ahead of time. Also, the arbitration cannot result in anything that would illegal. ex. cutting off people's hands.
The latter sounds all fine and dandy, however the ultimate evil of allowing this in Canada to settle even family law disputes is that ultimately muslim women end up getting mistreated. This is why feminists argue against this. In muslim communities in Canada often the only people a woman knows is her family and other members of the Muslim community. Should she not want to participate in a Sharia-based arbitration, she could end up being shunned by her family, her friends, and her mosque. So when both parties consent there's a hidden motivation for the woman to consent to a Sharia-based tribunal even if she wished to be in front of Canadian courts.
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