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Old 02-14-2008, 01:45 PM   #1
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Sources: Romney to endorse McCain for GOP nomination

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(CNN) -- Former Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney plans to announce Thursday that he is backing Sen. John McCain in his bid for the Oval Office, two sources familiar with the decision said.

One source said Romney wants to endorse McCain "in the interest of healing."

The source said Romney also wants to help McCain move faster to "secure the nomination and unite the party for the general election against the Democrats for November."

Romney will "release" his delegates to McCain, meaning he will encourage them to get behind McCain's candidacy, the source said.

Romney had collected 286 delegates before he suspended his campaign two weeks ago.

Those delegates would give McCain 1,013 total delegates, 78 short of securing the nomination.
Well there you have it folks... the fat lady is warming up.

Announcement is expected at 2 PM Mountain time.

Now all focus turns to the Democrats.
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And now, with the attention focused on the Democrats, they're going to have to figure out what's going on with their Superdelegates. Except in the highly unlikely possibility of a complete blowout over the remaining primaries from one or the other candidates, either would wind up short of the 2,025 needed to win as there just aren't enough pledged delegates left.

And so the superdelegates will end up deciding the Democrat candidate, which seems pretty undemocratic. Highly, even. So as I see it there are two options, as the public backlash from such a thing would probably defeat them in november.

1) Play out the rest of the primaries and have the superdelegates side with the carrier of the popular vote (the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates).
2) Broker an internal solution within the party now, forego the remaining primaries and begin to campaign nationally with whatever ticket they've effectively chosen.
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But, McCain is just sooo freaking old...

There's something about him that makes me thing he'll snap and go 'Nam and cause WWIII with China
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Makes sense to me. Seems like the preamble to a McCain-Romney ticket.

From Romney's Point of View: He wants to be President one day, and sometimes being the VP first is a good way to go. He'd be 69 in 2016, which is still "young" enough to run. If anything happens to McCain, he'd be President.

From McCain's Point of View: This brings the hard right back into the fray and they need to bring out that vote to win. McCain appeals to moderates and independents, Romney appeals to the hardcore conservatives. He would have a running mate 10 years his junior in case something happens. Romney also has very deep pockets for a strong campaign.

As for McCain's age... 71 and in good shape is a pretty limited risk. He'd be 79 when he steps down, which is still around the average life expectancy.

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But, McCain is just sooo freaking old...

There's something about him that makes me thing he'll snap and go 'Nam and cause WWIII with China
What is with you young guys and old people?
Age = Wisdom
Youth = hard ons
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But, McCain is just sooo freaking old...

There's something about him that makes me thing he'll snap and go 'Nam and cause WWIII with China
Unlike most of the other candidates, McCain has been exposed to the actual horrors of war.

Most people that have been there don't want to repeat it.

Bush Jr - Never fought in a war
Clinton - Never Served
Bush Sr - Pilot in the air force
Jimmy Carter - Never served
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What is with you young guys and old people?
Age = Wisdom
Youth = hard ons
Age can also = An out of date outloook on things.

VOTE OBAMA in 08

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Unlike most of the other candidates, McCain has been exposed to the actual horrors of war.
Is this really a good thing?? Didn't this guy say he thought the Iraq war needs to go on 100 years still?
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As a older person, I don't trust anyone that looks or is younger then me, or uses the word "Word", "Yo", "Bling", "Vision" in any statement.

Younger people have a more idealized view of the world, but the world doesn't work in an idealized way. At least an older person realizes that its a dog eat dog world out there and everyone is wearing milkbone underwear.

I just don't trust Obama, he's playing too much out of the Kennedy handbook, and he's trying to seduce America in the same way that Paul Martin tried to seduce Canadian's.

Its ok to have a plan, and to talk about bridging gaps, but I don't trust someone that hides that plan behind pretty speeches.

Cause I'm old.

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As for McCain's age... 71 and in good shape is a pretty limited risk. He'd be 79 when he steps down, which is still around the average life expectancy.
Wait, what? Presidential terms are 8 years now?

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As a older person, I don't trust anyone that looks or is younger then me, or uses the word "Word", ... in any statement.
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Wait, what? Presidential terms are 8 years now?
No, they are 4 years. But unless McCain resigns/retires/dies/REALLY screws up... he'd be the Republican candidate in 2012. No one really replaces their incumbent candidate otherwise... Bush steamrolled his primaries in 2004.

(this is all assuming he goes full term)

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Unlike most of the other candidates, McCain has been exposed to the actual horrors of war.

Most people that have been there don't want to repeat it.

Bush Jr - Never fought in a war
Clinton - Never Served
Bush Sr - Pilot in the air force
Jimmy Carter - Never served
Can't believe you made this mistake. Carter never fought but he was a graduate of the US Naval Academy and was a Lieutenant when he resigned after his father died.

One thing about McCain is, he's not a chicken hawk like those in the Bush administration, so that's somewhat of an upgrade.

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Also, Bush Sr. wasn't in the Air Force; he was a WWII naval aviator (flying Avenger torpedo bombers) and was shot down over the Pacific. Of his three-man crew, he was the only one to survive the crash.
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If someone as nuts as Romney supports McCain he has to be the right choice.
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Also, Bush Sr. wasn't in the Air Force; he was a WWII naval aviator (flying Avenger torpedo bombers) and was shot down over the Pacific. Of his three-man crew, he was the only one to survive the crash.
I know, I was trying to be funny as to anyone in the army, anyone who flies a plan is a slacker.

I mean they got upset one time when they got served steak for dinner two nights in a row and due to budget cuts they had to sleep with sheets that had a lower thread count.
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Can't believe you made this mistake. Carter never fought but he was a graduate of the US Naval Academy and was a Lieutenant when he resigned after his father died.

One thing about McCain is, he's not a chicken hawk like those in the Bush administration, so that's somewhat of an upgrade.
Your right, I missed that.

What a disgrace to the naval academy.

Sorry, not really a Carter fan.
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Unlike most of the other candidates, McCain has been exposed to the actual horrors of war.

Most people that have been there don't want to repeat it.

Bush Jr - Never fought in a war
Clinton - Never Served
Bush Sr - Pilot in the air force
Jimmy Carter - Never served
Obama - never served
Hillary - never served
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And now, with the attention focused on the Democrats, they're going to have to figure out what's going on with their Superdelegates. Except in the highly unlikely possibility of a complete blowout over the remaining primaries from one or the other candidates, either would wind up short of the 2,025 needed to win as there just aren't enough pledged delegates left.

And so the superdelegates will end up deciding the Democrat candidate, which seems pretty undemocratic. Highly, even. So as I see it there are two options, as the public backlash from such a thing would probably defeat them in november.

1) Play out the rest of the primaries and have the superdelegates side with the carrier of the popular vote (the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates).
2) Broker an internal solution within the party now, forego the remaining primaries and begin to campaign nationally with whatever ticket they've effectively chosen.
Why would Hilliary or Obama give up super delegates they paid good money for?

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...delegates.html
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Obama - never served
Hillary - never served
FD Roosevelt - never served
in my mind maybe the greatest president of the 20th century.

Ronald Reagan - never served
I include him just to be fair to you right wing lovers.

To me it's only an issue if the candidate loves war but wants someone else to do the dirty work, while never having experienced it first hand.
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FD Roosevelt - never served
in my mind maybe the greatest president of the 20th century.

Ronald Reagan - never served
I include him just to be fair to you right wing lovers.

To me it's only an issue if the candidate loves war but wants someone else to do the dirty work, while never having experienced it first hand.
Not to mention Abraham Lincoln. Or Thomas Jefferson. Or Woodrow Wilson.

The list of presidents who "never served" is pretty long, actually--as is the list of presidents who did. There are good and bad ones on both lists. It's pretty much an irrelevant biographical detail, IMO.
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Not to mention Abraham Lincoln. Or Thomas Jefferson. Or Woodrow Wilson.

The list of presidents who "never served" is pretty long, actually--as is the list of presidents who did. There are good and bad ones on both lists. It's pretty much an irrelevant biographical detail, IMO.
No kidding.

On the matter at hand, the New Republic has a startling recommendation for the Republican VP - Condoleeza Rice:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3831288.shtml

Interesting to see Colin Powell suddenly appearing out of the woodwork on the weekend, neither endorsing McCain nor Clinton but not dissing them either. He seemed effusive about Obama at one point then dumped on him regarding foreign policy. Powell said his endorsement would come at a later date, almost like he was positioning himself to endorse either side.

Obviously, McCain/Powell would be an interesting ticket . . . . .

Interestingly, Jimmy Carter was the first President to carry what is now the religious right as a potent political force . . . . then Reagan stole them and they've been largely Republican ever since.

But it's a reminder that there is a religious left in the USA.

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