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Old 02-11-2008, 07:54 AM   #101
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If Barack Obama becomes the next US president he will surely be assassinated, British Nobel literature laureate Doris Lessing predicted in a newspaper interview published here Saturday.

Obama, who is vying to become the first black president in US history, "would certainly not last long, a black man in the position of president. They would murder him," Lessing, 88, told the Dagens Nyheter daily.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
Somehow . . . . . I think the "they" she's talking about might be different than the backwoods Idaho/Michigan "they" some of you guys are thinking about.

Political assassinations really have little to do with domestic gun availability. And for what it's worth, such motivations come in such a wide variety, that targeting a certain group is quite silly.

The last three assassination attempts have been against two Republican presidents.

Gerald Ford escaped two assassination attempts, both by women. First on September 5, 1975, Lynette Fromme, a follower of Charles Manson, pointed a gun at him but did not fire. She was convicted of attempting to assassinate the president and sentenced to life in prison. The second attempt on Ford's life occurred on September 22, 1975 when Sara Jane Moore fired one shot that was deflected by a bystander. Moore was trying to prove herself to some radical friends with the assassination of the president. She was convicted of attempted assassination and sentenced to life in prison.

On March 30, 1981, Ronald Reagan was shot in the lung by John Hinckley, Jr. Hinckley hoped that by assassinating the president, he would earn enough notoriety to impress Jodie Foster. He was arrested but found not guilty by reason of insanity. He was sentenced to life in a mental institution.

Obviously, those attempts didn't have a lot to do with ideology.

Other attempts:

http://americanhistory.about.com/od/...ssinations.htm

I do agree that Obama is likely at greater risk of an attempt than the other contenders.

EDIT: The oddity is that, theoretically, this shouldn't be a particularly difficult task for a trained sniper of the type you could find in the closeted Idaho/Michigan Disturbed Members Club . . . . most of these attempts on Presidents seem to be handguns at close range, not a particularly smart way to go.

It's like the prior theoretical argument of why people don't strap explosives on themselves and blow up a C-Train in Calgary? What prevents people from doing that if they were really determined? Not much. But it never happens.

We can probably conclude that up to this point, smart and motivated people - as opposed to the klutz's before them - who might want to take out a President perhaps don't exist.

Will they exist in the case of Obama?

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Old 02-11-2008, 08:15 AM   #102
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Gerald Ford escaped two assassination attempts, both by women. First on September 5, 1975, Lynette Fromme, a follower of Charles Manson, pointed a gun at him but did not fire. She was convicted of attempting to assassinate the president and sentenced to life in prison. The second attempt on Ford's life occurred on September 22, 1975 when Sara Jane Moore fired one shot that was deflected by a bystander. Moore was trying to prove herself to some radical friends with the assassination of the president. She was convicted of attempted assassination and sentenced to life in prison.
Thank god that Superman was buying a hotdog from a street vendor nearby at the time.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:34 AM   #103
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The threat of assignation or perceived threat, will be high for any president considering the United States perception in the Middle East. Sure hate groups in the US will want to see Obama dead. But like others have stated, despite their strong hate for African Americans (among others), they would not have the organization or the funding to pull it off. Any President, regardless of race or gender, will have the highest security since the threat from well funded highly organized terrorist states or groups is treated as a real possibility. Look at the security measures that have been put in place since 9/11.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:56 AM   #104
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Conservatives have more issues with McCain than that of immigration and election reforms. He has been at odds with the religious right for at least a couple election cycles. They were the reason Bush beat him in the first go-around. I don't think they will move to Obama if McCain becomes the republican candidate but, rather they will probably stay home. This will almost insure a Obama victory if he survives to be elected President.

I think there will at least be an attempt on Obama's life if he becomes the Democrat's candidate for President. There are too many Arians and skin heads that believe the white race is going have to fight for their survival against their black counterparts. The possibility of a black President is their worst fears. Unfortunately they've trained and stockpiled weapons for this imagined war for years and will look quite impotent and cowardly if they don't act. It will take divine intervention to keep Obama alive long enough to say the oath of office. Barring that he will be killed after he is the Democrats official candidate and Bush will be blamed.

Does anybody know who would take Obama's place as the Democrat's canidate if Obama is killed after(if) he wins at the convention?
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:44 AM   #105
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:23 PM   #106
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:49 PM   #107
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Conservatives have more issues with McCain than that of immigration and election reforms. He has been at odds with the religious right for at least a couple election cycles. They were the reason Bush beat him in the first go-around. I don't think they will move to Obama if McCain becomes the republican candidate but, rather they will probably stay home. This will almost insure a Obama victory if he survives to be elected President.

I think there will at least be an attempt on Obama's life if he becomes the Democrat's candidate for President. There are too many Arians and skin heads that believe the white race is going have to fight for their survival against their black counterparts. The possibility of a black President is their worst fears. Unfortunately they've trained and stockpiled weapons for this imagined war for years and will look quite impotent and cowardly if they don't act. It will take divine intervention to keep Obama alive long enough to say the oath of office. Barring that he will be killed after he is the Democrats official candidate and Bush will be blamed.

Does anybody know who would take Obama's place as the Democrat's canidate if Obama is killed after(if) he wins at the convention?
For those of you who were laughing at HotHotHeat's post on who would try to kill Obama, this quoted post says all you need to know. There's a certain mentality in the United States, and its in perfect alignment with the quoted post.
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Without getting into all the "is it possible" or "why's" - **IF** (huge if) Obama was assassinated it would make the rodney king riots look like a womens WWE match, American White people might be safer in Pakistan.

The USA would become a warzone.
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Without getting into all the "is it possible" or "why's" - **IF** (huge if) Obama was assassinated it would make the rodney king riots look like a womens WWE match, American White people might be safer in Pakistan.

The USA would become a warzone.
And Charles Manson would have been right all along with his Helter skelter war of the races prediction! I think people are putting too much stock into the Obama vs. JFK change mentalitly - but I could be wrong.
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Lets not forget that with JFK, there were some fairly large questions that have yet to be answered, particularly with his Mob ties.
What do you mean, still need to be answered? Lone nut killing the president seems to be the consensuses opinion.
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For those of you who were laughing at HotHotHeat's post on who would try to kill Obama, this quoted post says all you need to know. There's a certain mentality in the United States, and its in perfect alignment with the quoted post.
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What do you mean, still need to be answered? Lone nut killing the president seems to be the consensuses opinion.
Lots of Americans believe it was mob related.
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What do you mean, still need to be answered? Lone nut killing the president seems to be the consensuses opinion.
Well, there's some questions as to why this lone nut was himself assassinated by someone who has been linked with organized crime. As well as some other theories and links to organized crime that may or may not be true.
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Lots of Americans believe it was mob related.
But there is lots of Americans who believe we didn't land on the moon, the earth is 6000 years old, and 9/11 was an inside job. Just because lots of people subscribe to something doesn't make it true. In my opinion the JFK assassination conspiracy was that generations equivalent of this current 9/11 inside job mumbo-jumbo.
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But there is lots of Americans who believe we didn't land on the moon, the earth is 6000 years old, and 9/11 was an inside job. Just because lots of people subscribe to something doesn't make it true. In my opinion the JFK assassination conspiracy was that generations equivalent of this current 9/11 inside job mumbo-jumbo.
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Well, there's some questions as to why this lone nut was himself assassinated by someone who has been linked with organized crime. As well as some other theories and links to organized crime that may or may not be true.
I can't say I have ever read anything even remotely compelling about the JFK assassination that would point to it being a conspiracy. I'll admit that I am not entirely familiar with the conspiracy side on this one. But most conspiracy theories are a wide variety of unrelated events and facts intentionally connected together in a very bias manner. People like to think big events had big causes, but it isn't always the case.
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What do you mean, still need to be answered? Lone nut killing the president seems to be the consensuses opinion.
Consensus? Hardly.

I'll bet at least half the Americans with an opinion on the matter don't believe this explanation. Like you said, just because a lot of people believe it doesn't make it true, but just because it's not the official explanation doesn't mean it is false.

The official explanation is flimsy at best. There are questions that never have been answered and it doesn't look they ever will be.
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What is that suppose to mean?
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The official explanation is flimsy at best. There are questions that never have been answered and it doesn't look they ever will be.
Like what exactly? Feel free to point me there.
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