02-07-2008, 11:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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So Roger's would know if I had an iPhone right?
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02-07-2008, 12:07 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton
I sure as hell am not going to tell them what kind of phone I am using... i phoned 4 times yesterday to make sure... and all 4 CSR's told me that the data Im using is covered... I may phone today to get it in writing though. Ill keep you guys posted on whether or not it works.
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You don't have to tell them, they know what kind of phone you are using.
That's the small print of that $20 plan, it has to be browser traffic from a Rogers phone through the built in WAP browser.
They can tell the phone from the IMEI, and which browser from the browser itself; it send out info identifying itself whenever a page is requested. So on the iPhone the browser constantly says to pages requested "Hi, I'm iPhone Safari".
I'll be hugely surprised if you aren't being charged 5cents / KB
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02-07-2008, 12:08 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Tyler
So Roger's would know if I had an iPhone right?
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For sure, they know by the IMEI # in each phone. The only way to get around that is to clone the IMEI or something which I'm sure is either illegal or at the very least will get you booted off their network.
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02-07-2008, 12:12 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Another example of this was when Fido had unlimited data plan for the Hiptop devices.. people took their SIM and put it in other phones to try and get the unlimited data, but the network detected that it wasn't a Hiptop by the IMEI and were charged normal data rates.
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02-07-2008, 03:26 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Im using a device called turbosim with my phone. I called this afternoon and they have made a note on my account that I have inquired about the data and that what I am using is covered. That being said Im very interested in seeing my bill... Ive entered a WAP setting in the phone so maybe thats whats causing it to look like a WAP browser...
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02-07-2008, 04:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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The fine print is a bit vague.
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The option is available on selected handsets only (non-Fido certified handsets,Windows Mobile devices and PC cards are not eligible)
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A couple things, are only phones purchased from Fido "Fido certified"? What does "Fido certified" mean?
And does this mean "non-Fido certified handsets, non-Fido certified Windows Mobile devices and non-Fido certified PC cards are not eligible"
or does it mean "non-Fido certified handsets, any Windows Mobile devices and any PC cards are not eligible" ?
There seems to be a grey area, but not one I would be willing to risk thousands of dollars in bandwidth fees to find out what the real meaning might be. But maybe this is legalese they can pull out to cover their behinds in the event a network upgrade disables a phone, or someone uses a phone to hack wi-fi.
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02-07-2008, 04:31 PM
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Marshmallow Maiden
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary
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Fido will be adding PDAs to their line-up shortly (apparently, at the end of Q1). Their new phones and PDAs include: Nokia 6555, Samsung SGH-e747, Motorola Q9h, Samsung SGH-i616, Motorola ROKR U9, and the Sony Ericsson Z750i.
I wish Fido didn't have such a love-in with Motorola and although the Moto Q9 looks great, I'd never buy a Motorola again.
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02-07-2008, 04:54 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
A couple things, are only phones purchased from Fido "Fido certified"? What does "Fido certified" mean?
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The guys on howardsforums seem to think it just means they check to see if the phone came from Fido, they check it's unique IMEI against their database. So an unlocked Fido phone would work, but an unlocked phone not purchased from Fido wouldn't. That's the speculation anyway.
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And does this mean "non-Fido certified handsets, non-Fido certified Windows Mobile devices and non-Fido certified PC cards are not eligible"
or does it mean "non-Fido certified handsets, any Windows Mobile devices and any PC cards are not eligible" ?
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The latter, otherwise you'd be able to get the existing Windows Mobile devices that they've sold into the program, and most people have been turned down from what I read (though people are saying they've had success getting the E62 on?).
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02-08-2008, 06:33 PM
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Likes Cartoons
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Originally Posted by Mango
Fido will be adding PDAs to their line-up shortly (apparently, at the end of Q1). Their new phones and PDAs include: Nokia 6555, Samsung SGH-e747, Motorola Q9h, Samsung SGH-i616, Motorola ROKR U9, and the Sony Ericsson Z750i.
I wish Fido didn't have such a love-in with Motorola and although the Moto Q9 looks great, I'd never buy a Motorola again.
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People are gonna be disappointed by the next wave of Fido devices. the Q9's hardware engine is sloooooooooooooow. The only decent ones I'd say are the samsungs.
Oh, and the 6555 enjoys turning off by itself...and dialing by itself. It's great!
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02-08-2008, 06:35 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The 7 dollar unlimited browser is WAP browsing, not actual http browsing...as in its 5 years late on rogers behalf
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02-08-2008, 06:36 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Tyler
So Roger's would know if I had an iPhone right?
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I believe they do whenever you surf the internet with it now with the new IMEI tracking system they have.
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02-08-2008, 06:38 PM
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Likes Cartoons
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Originally Posted by photon
For sure, they know by the IMEI # in each phone. The only way to get around that is to clone the IMEI or something which I'm sure is either illegal or at the very least will get you booted off their network.
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There's that, but they don't really need the IMEI to identify your phone. The User Agent will do nicely, since in the UA string, the identity of your phone is spelled out.
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02-08-2008, 07:38 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Yeah, that's probably even easier.
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02-09-2008, 12:04 AM
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Marshmallow Maiden
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce
People are gonna be disappointed by the next wave of Fido devices. the Q9's hardware engine is sloooooooooooooow.
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That really is disappointing. I was seriously considering getting the Q9, but I'll avoid it now. I currently have a Nokia N70. It's a great phone, but I find it is slow as well. I'm a bit Nokia fan, and I'd like to go to a Nokia PDA but there aren't many available. If I get an un-locked model, I wouldn't be able to benefit from web browsing anyway. Frustrating!
Virgin is going to post-paid in the next few months and I'm curious to see what their lineup is going to be like. I've heard they will not be having a system access fee. Hopefully, other providers will follow suit.
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02-09-2008, 09:35 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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No system access fee, I wonder how they're going to pull that off?? Virgin is just an MVNO for Bell, so they must still pay Bell the system access fee.
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02-11-2008, 02:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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And now Ars Technica is examining Rogers' plan (and agreeing Photon - Photon, did you tip off Ars?)
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...after-all.html
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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02-11-2008, 03:09 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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lol, well I do play a lot of TF2 with the ARS clan 
Interesting thing from the discussion thread though, they're saying that the iPhone is coming to Canada on Bell after a 3G version of the iPhone is released.
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02-11-2008, 03:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by photon
lol, well I do play a lot of TF2 with the ARS clan
Interesting thing from the discussion thread though, they're saying that the iPhone is coming to Canada on Bell after a 3G version of the iPhone is released. |
I thought is was going to be Rogers simply because of GSM. I haven't followed the iPhone for a while, has it been released to CDMA carriers overseas?
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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02-11-2008, 03:39 PM
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#39
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Not yet, speculation is this spring, but who knows for sure.
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02-11-2008, 07:23 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I was without tv, internet, anything for a day. I used my cell to Bluetooth me some CP. Loaded like 6 pages and over $100.00 later on my cell bill.....
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