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Old 12-19-2007, 04:03 PM   #41
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:03 PM   #42
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I say it depends on one thing. Her behavior over the last 4 years... especially recently.

Does she date?
Does she complain about them to you?

If she is full on dating and having a sexually active life without you, yet you go antiquing together you are a girlfriend with a penis. Forget about it. If she is hot and yet strangely never dates or hooks up with guys, then you might have a chance.

I'm not in a similar situation as I have a girl that has been a friend for 5-6 years now. We are close... but, even though I think she is attractive I know we would never work as a couple... we can hang out in short doses but a full time relationship would destroy us. So I am more than happy leaving it the way it is.. that said we did have the "friends with benefits" talk in Mexico... but even drunk we both knew it would be a bad call...

Make sure you are not risking this friendship because your lonely and maybe a little intimidated to risk getting to know a girl that may actually like you back in a "your hot" kind of way. Sometimes its easy to think the friend is the one because she is right there and easily accessible, but that doesn't mean you and her are right for each other. If you look at it and your feelings are real and not feelings created by conveyance and horny... If you really feel you are really compatible in a sexual relationship maybe its worth the shot... especially if you can't let it go.

If you really have feelings for her and you don't do anything about it you are being unfair to your self... if she will never be a partner for you then you are overlooking so many more possibilities and your friendship with her has a layer of falseness... which is safe and can't hurt your feelings but ultimately no good.
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Well, before you start up the parade, I don't speak for all women, so you have only my endorsement, but I like to think that means a lot.

I like and appreciate blunt, brutal honesty. I don't like all the games and the tiptoeing around. If you hint around or what not, then there is always room for misinterpretation on her part. If he's just up front, there's no confusion and he gets an answer, may not be the one he wants given that he said they have a brother-sister type relationship, but he'll get an answer. But like I said before, make sure you're willing to risk your friendship, cause this will change it. That's just my opinion though.
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Why ruin a good friendship? If it turns romantic, odds are it ultimately won't work out in the long run (most relationships fail). Then, you can't be friends anymore.
Because he would like to plow her...
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The thing about the friend zone is to think of it like a finger trap, easy to get into, impossible to get out of. Either she does or she doesn't find you attractive to her in a romantic sense. She will subconsciously know this within the first few times meeting you and it usually doesn't evolve that much over time. The only time I've seen a girl get to like a guy she previously didn't is when the guy left the city for University and came back 4 years later in amazing physical shape and more emotionally evolved.

My guess is that unless she's floating signs indicating she might be harbouring feelings for you than you're SOL. There is nothing you can do to pursue those feelings without putting your friendship at risk. Once it's out there, it'll never be the same in a friendship sense. My advice to you would be to take stock of your romantic life thus far and figure out ways in which you can move on. While the movies and TV lead us to believe there's only one person for everyone, my personal experience has told me that there's plenty. The only obstacle in the way of finding someone you find just as attractive as her is your own ability to meet new people. As my good buddy always says about the process of finding his next: "Sometimes you have to slay a few dragons to get to the princess"
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Because he would like to plow her...
Other mothers have nice daughters as well (Old German expression) . . .
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You sir are 100% screwed. And not the agreeable proper kind, I'm talking the unfortunate figurative variety.

Approach her wearing nothing but socks with a bottle of wine whilst proclaiming your love for her in song.

If that doesnt work, Rohypnol is your friend. I dont condone the use of the date rape drug, but that doesnt mean I cant advocate for it.

Slip it to her, knock her up and then she'll have no choice but to marry you and love you forever. You just have to keep her on a steady intervenous drip of the stuff for the rest of her life.

Now, if you are really running out of options, or the first two suggestions didnt work (if they didnt work, then you did them wrong), stage an intervention. This is particularly classy, but you have to be one hell of an actor to pull this off. It should go something like this.

"This is an intervention, its time you finally told everyone that you're a lesbian."

To which she is obviously going to reply that she is not a lesbian. This is where you pull out one of these:

- "Really? Then why havent we slept together yet?"

Or, my personal favorite is you really make her life hell for a few days by telling all her friends and family that shes a lesbian and when she finally asks you stop it because she isnt a lesbian you whip out the tried and true:

"Prove it."

Works everytime.

BTW, foofighter_15, I'd have been here earlier but I'm nursing a vicious hangover from last night. Its good to see that the Captain and fotze have been holding the fort though.
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I'm not in a similar situation as I have a girl that has been a friend for 5-6 years now. We are close... but, even though I think she is attractive I know we would never work as a couple... we can hang out in short doses but a full time relationship would destroy us. So I am more than happy leaving it the way it is.. that said we did have the "friends with benefits" talk in Mexico... but even drunk we both knew it would be a bad call...
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Why ruin a good friendship? If it turns romantic, odds are it ultimately won't work out in the long run (most relationships fail). Then, you can't be friends anymore.
Yeah but how good of a friendship can it be if he's always thinking about doing her? That's unfair to him. Sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
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If that doesnt work, "Forget me now" is your friend. I dont condone the use of the date rape drug, but that doesnt mean I cant advocate for it.


BTW, foofighter_15, I'd have been here earlier but I'm nursing a vicious hangover from last night. Its good to see that the Captain and fotze have been holding the fort though.
Fixed, and that a boy. Make me proud.

And by the way, the lesbian thing? Genius!
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:19 PM   #53
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I disagree with people who say you are screwed or should forget about it.

You've been close with this girl a long time, maybe she too is realising you're the kind of person suited to her. If she's a nice girl and not a superficial bitch then she might be attracted to you already.

My advice is to avoid the serious blunt talk. It always leads to awkwardness of some sort or another.

I agree with the posters who suggest pushing your times together more in the date direction. New Years idea is great. Or any sort of thing you can get yourself invited to that would require you to take a date. Any weddings coming up? When you ask her, be sure to ask if she wants to be your date, not "I can bring a friend along".

Go for dinners, and if you go for dinners already, make them more intimate. Nicer places, wine, the kind of place where its obvious only couples go to eat.

She'll get the hint and will give you signals back, positive or negative.
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:21 PM   #54
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I think you need to get selfish quickly. I was like you once. Tried to escape the friend zone once and ended up wasting one of the better years of my life. When it was all said and done I was a little more bitter and quite a bit wiser.

Your feelings aren't changing and this certainly won't settle itself. It's unfair to her if you are looking for something more and she's not into it. It's unfair to you for the same reason. I think you need to legitimately consider that this friendship can't continue on this path. You either need to take it to another level or leave it behind.

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Get drunk and hit on her. Hard. What are you going to lose? You're probably going to get all pissed off when she dates another guy and ruin the friendship anyways, so you might as well go out in a blaze of glory. If she likes you and you take her home, good on ya. If it ruins the friendship who cares....chicks are for fags. Just remember; it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. Especially with Rohibnol.
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I think the Ladder Theory applies here. Once you're knocked onto the friendship ladder, that's pretty much all she wrote.

The only exception I know of is if the girl is with a guy she's not happy with, she might have you in the friend list because she has to break up with this other guy first. But you'd know. Women who want to be more than just friends tend to send out a lot of signs.
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Get drunk and hit on her. Hard. What are you going to lose? You're probably going to get all pissed off when she dates another guy and ruin the friendship anyways, so you might as well go out in a blaze of glory. If she likes you and you take her home, good on ya. If it ruins the friendship who cares....chicks are for fags. Just remember; it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. Especially with Rohibnol.
And here we were worrying that you had gone soft on us.
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You could also pull the whole "You might as well sleep with me because I'm going to tell all your friends you did anyways." If she still says no then you can say "Fine...but now I'm telling everyone you gave me crabs."

Btw Tron, that avatar is hilarious. Where'd you gind it?
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The story almost always ends up the same way when 2 friends sleep together.

You get that initial awkward phase for a little while, then you slowly drift apart, till one day you notice that you haven't talked to her for months.

Seems to happen every time. Good luck man!
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Murder her current boyfriend and bury him in a tub of Lye. Confort her, accompany her to the funeral. On the way back to the limosine pull the old stumble on a rock grab the goods move. If she suddenly jumps into your arms, then mission accomplished. If not race back to the limo, and have him drive you directly to the nearest hooters or strip club so that you can get shot down by a woman that you have no emotional attachment to.
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