USA Political race knee-deep in religion. People getting tired

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Religion is a huge part of our world today. The religion or lack of one effects a person's approach at everything they do. I think religion will always form part of the political debate.

I don't deny that religion is a huge part of the world's social fabric, but what on earth does one person's choice of regilious belief (or not) have to do with their ability to lead and choose wise policies?

Like I said earlier, a prospective CEO would never have to answer questions about his or her religion when interviewing for the job. Why should choosing the leader of a nation be any different?

[Weiser Wonder]

I like Jon Edwards best.

Oh god..."Mike Huckabee explains his surge in the polls thus: "There's only one explanation for it, and it's not a human one. It's the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000 people."

Officially never voting for Mike Huckabee.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Azure

Pretty much.

Obama is young though, hasn't been around for THAT long.

A lot of people look at his inexperience as a negative towards him being President.

To me its awesome. JFK was young too.

From what little I've seen of Obama, he seems not very knowledgeable on foreign affairs. I don't think the world deserves or can stand another President who has to learn on the job.

Yeah, JFK had to do some learning and testing on the job but he'd had some real military experience, some good experience as a Senator and had been groomed for the job since a youth.
I don't particularly like Hillary either but she has good credentials. What is this anyways a popularity contest?
Maybe Obama next time.

[AC]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I don't deny that religion is a huge part of the world's social fabric, but what on earth does one person's choice of regilious belief (or not) have to do with their ability to lead and choose wise policies?

Its surprising how many people in polls state they believe morality can only come from religion.

[moon]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Like I said earlier, a prospective CEO would never have to answer questions about his or her religion when interviewing for the job.

They would if the board/shareholders thought that it was important to him running the company.

Today many voters feel that religion is an important part of how a candidate would run the country.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by moon

They would if the board/shareholders thought that it was important to him running the company.

Today many voters feel that religion is an important part of how a candidate would run the country.

Uh, legally they can't ask anyone about their religious beliefs in a job interview. The board would be exposing themselves to a discrimination lawsuit (and the negative publicity that comes with it) if, for example, a Christian was chosen over a Jew and one of the interview questions asked the candidate to indentify his or her religion.

But again, religious beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not someone is a capable leader and makes wise decisions. As such, it should play no role in elections.

[moon]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Uh, legally they can't ask anyone about their religious beliefs in a job interview. The board would be exposing themselves to a discrimination lawsuit (and the negative publicity that comes with it) if, for example, a Christian was chosen over a Jew and one of the interview questions asked the candidate to indentify his or her religion.

But again, religious beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not someone is a capable leader and makes wise decisions. As such, it should play no role in elections.

It would be easy enough to do a background check to find out. If the board wanted to find out they could easily do it and hire the guy with the "right" religious background or religiosity that they wanted. So CEO's could easily be held up to the same standard.

I am also not sure that CEO of a company is a lateral comparison to the President of the United States of America.

I agree that it shouldn't be a factor in who you elect and that, unless we are talking about fanatics, that it would play no, or a very miniscule, role in who would make the best President.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Uh, legally they can't ask anyone about their religious beliefs in a job interview. The board would be exposing themselves to a discrimination lawsuit (and the negative publicity that comes with it) if, for example, a Christian was chosen over a Jew and one of the interview questions asked the candidate to indentify his or her religion.

But again, religious beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not someone is a capable leader and makes wise decisions. As such, it should play no role in elections.

Well under normal circumstances of educated unbiased candidates, I agree, but when a candidate professes they believe and follow everything in the Bible, Koran, etc., I'll reappraise my vote. We aren't hiring someone to build a house here. In that case I wouldn't care if he's a monk or an alcoholic, as long as he builds a good house at a good price. A politician has to represent his voters, not his religion.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

"Those who say that religion has nothing to do with politics does not know what religion is." - Mahatma Gandhi

Religion is a huge part of our world today. The religion or lack of one effects a person's approach at everything they do. I think religion will always form part of the political debate.

Gandhi surrounded himself with young girls who'm he insisted constantly be given enemas to keep themselves clean.

God bless.

Oh and Vote Ron Paul.

Time to stop central banking and their control over the world.

[badnarik]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

Ron Paul is way too radical for the mainstream. I'm all for liberty but some of his ideas are pretty out there. There's no way he gets elected and for good reason.

Limited federal government with an economy based on sound money and a non-interventionist foreign policy is too radical, which is unfortunate.

Beyond his foreign policy none of his radical ideas would ever materialize.

BTW Boston tea party is today, which should add about 5 million bucks to Paul's campaign.

[REDVAN]

The more and more I hear about Obama, the cooler of a guy I think he is. He seems like a normal guy. Is that the sort of man the USA wants running their country?

As for the inexperience some people seem to think he has- doesn't every president learn on the job? Maybe not Bush 2, but most of them haven't seen it up close and personal, so hence they must learn on the job.

Religion shouldn't matter, but unfortunately, that is how it works.

[feartheflames]

I've been reading about Obama and I think genuinely he is an untainted politican. However it's both an advantage and a disadvantage-
advantage- he is rational and honest and wants to work WITH the Republicans
disavantage- his age and he has only been a senator for 2 year thus he is untainted


I think he is the right man for the job however I'm not convinced that he is ready to have it yet

Hilary is way too wishy washy

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by badnarik

Limited federal government with an economy based on sound money and a non-interventionist foreign policy is too radical, which is unfortunate.

Beyond his foreign policy none of his radical ideas would ever materialize.

BTW Boston tea party is today, which should add about 5 million bucks to Paul's campaign.

He goes beyond sound money. He wants to return to gold-backed currency, which is never ever going to happen. Just completely unrealistic. I don't mind non-interventionist but he seems very anti-free trade, I hate that.

[peter12]

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[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

I like Jon Edwards best.

Oh god..."Mike Huckabee explains his surge in the polls thus: "There's only one explanation for it, and it's not a human one. It's the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000 people."

Officially never voting for Mike Huckabee.

Yeah, just found out recently that Huckabee is a former baptist minister. Pass.

I can't stand Edwards.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

I like Jon Edwards best.

Oh god..."Mike Huckabee explains his surge in the polls thus: "There's only one explanation for it, and it's not a human one. It's the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000 people."

Officially never voting for Mike Huckabee.

...but....but....but.....hes endorsed by Chuck Norris.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Locke

...but....but....but.....hes endorsed by Chuck Norris.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8

That's actually a great ad. We need more comedy in politics.

[arsenal]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

That's actually a great ad. We need more comedy in politics.

I wish that Stephen Colbert was actually running.. At least politics would be funny then..

[worth]

To say Obama is untainted is misleading IMO. He's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, as pretty much everyone running for President, either Democrat or Republican are a part of either the Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relation or the Bilderberg Group.

Democrat CFR
Candidates:
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Republican CFR
Candidates:
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich



Personally, I believe it doesn't matter who gets voted in, they are all working toward the same agenda. We basically get the illusion of choice, but in reality, all the candidates have already been picked.




http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=44841

The only one running who I would say is basically "untainted" would be Ron Paul. The reason we don't hear about him on TV is because all of mainstream media is run by the same three groups. CFR, Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission. The only smart thing to do would be to talk about you're own people, the candidates who sit in the same meetings with you, not some outsider, which is why Ron Paul hardly gets a peep. And when he does, it's basically to show how crazy and extreme his views are.

You can see a roster of members of these three groups here:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm

If you scroll down a bit you can see the long list of media members that belong to these groups among others.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Yeah, just found out recently that Huckabee is a former baptist minister. Pass.

Yeah, Huckabee was asked about him not believing in evolution and he said he thought the question was silly to be asked in a presidential debate, that he's not running to be an 8th grade science teacher..