Defeated by weather

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by SarichFan

people fart all the time, .

You should try the C-train from McMahon after a Riders Game......

[foofighter15]

So what time is everyone leaving today? I figure it would be good to get an idea as to when it wont be that busy.

[SteveToms]

The roads should be better, with the sun, cars moving and plows, all that jazz

[SarichFan]

Originally Posted by Nufy

You should try the C-train from McMahon after a Riders Game......

Hey in the morning I get mad farts, the bus takes 30 minutes on a good day and I can hold it. But after that people's threash hold ends and I guarantee you within 15 minutes, every single person on the bus has let it loose.

[Ironhorse]

Looks like I picked a good week to be in Vegas....

Sunny and 16 C for a high today....

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Looks like I picked a good week to be in Vegas....

Sunny and 16 C for a high today....

And a fine time to get sent to Mexico for work...

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Dion

If you lock up your brakes, for sure you're going to slide.



You just described the Calgary driver attitude of i'm in a hurry to get somewhere fast. So what if the other guy has all seasons. If he/she is driving safe for the conditions that's all that matters. Leave earlier to avoid the rush if it bothers you that much.

People rear ending each other don't give themselves enough space between themselves and the other driver. It's not the fault of all season tires.

Originally Posted by Nufy

Exactly...

Its more about driver attitude.

I know I have All seasons....my choice.

I don't drive to fast for the conditions and I try to leave ample space between me and the car in front of me.

That is until someone sees that space as a prime spot to change lanes.

I am by no means the safest / best driver on the road, but I do adjust to and can handle the driving conditions I put myself in.




I bet if hulks buddy had winters on his jeep, he would have hit the stop sign at a faster rate of speed.

You guys are both the problem.

That's exactly the same as me saying I can take my 1960 air cooled VW that tops out at 70km/h on to Deerfoot if I want to, and screw everyone that gets delayed because of me.

That's great that you leave a lot of room when it's slippery. So do I on my winters. To be safe though, you have to leave more room than me, because it will take you much longer to stop.

Now you have 80% of people with their all seasons doing this, and guess what? The roads all now have a dramatically reduced capacity and everyone is that much later, and despite you "driving really safe" there are still more accidents. I would bet everything I own that a larger percentage of cars with all seasons crash in the winter than cars with proper winter tires. All seasons ARE NOT made to drive in -20. You can find that from many many sources.

So basically you are too lazy to own two sets of tires (I'd say cheap, but really it evens out in the end to almost the exact same cost) and as a result you screw everyone elses safety and commute times. Good work.

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

You guys are both the problem.

That's exactly the same as me saying I can take my 1960 air cooled VW that tops out at 70km/h on to Deerfoot if I want to, and screw everyone that gets delayed because of me.

That's great that you leave a lot of room when it's slippery. So do I on my winters. To be safe though, you have to leave more room than me, because it will take you much longer to stop.

Now you have 80% of people with their all seasons doing this, and guess what? The roads all now have a dramatically reduced capacity and everyone is that much later, and despite you "driving really safe" there are still more accidents. I would bet everything I own that a larger percentage of cars with all seasons crash in the winter than cars with proper winter tires. All seasons ARE NOT made to drive in -20. You can find that from many many sources.

So basically you are too lazy to own two sets of tires (I'd say cheap, but really it evens out in the end to almost the exact same cost) and as a result you screw everyone elses safety and commute times. Good work.

So, basically, the guys you quoted get rear ended, and you're the one that does the rear ending.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

So, basically, the guys you quoted get rear ended, and you're the one that does the rear ending.

Nope, as stated, I leave a safe distance. I always stop no problem. Never caused an accident

[habernac]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

You guys are both the problem.

That's exactly the same as me saying I can take my 1960 air cooled VW that tops out at 70km/h on to Deerfoot if I want to, and screw everyone that gets delayed because of me.

That's great that you leave a lot of room when it's slippery. So do I on my winters. To be safe though, you have to leave more room than me, because it will take you much longer to stop.

Now you have 80% of people with their all seasons doing this, and guess what? The roads all now have a dramatically reduced capacity and everyone is that much later, and despite you "driving really safe" there are still more accidents. I would bet everything I own that a larger percentage of cars with all seasons crash in the winter than cars with proper winter tires. All seasons ARE NOT made to drive in -20. You can find that from many many sources.

So basically you are too lazy to own two sets of tires (I'd say cheap, but really it evens out in the end to almost the exact same cost) and as a result you screw everyone elses safety and commute times. Good work.

I call BS on this. I've had all season tires for 20 years on my vehicles. I have zero accidents because I don't drive like a jackass.

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by habernac

I call BS on this. I've had all season tires for 20 years on my vehicles. I have zero accidents because I don't drive like a jackass.

I think that's the key. It is the moron's who cause the accidents. However I don't only mean the ones that speed and swerve in and out. The idiots who drive below the speed limit in the left lane, or on a two lane highway pass another guy going 1 km/h faster.
As for all the accidents on snow days....one more reason driving needs to be a privilege and not a right. There are too many bad drivers out there. Think about it. If it was harder to get a license less people would drive. Less people that drive, the less traffic there is, the higher the quality of drivers, the safer the roads, less pollution. It needs to be done.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

You guys are both the problem.

That's exactly the same as me saying I can take my 1960 air cooled VW that tops out at 70km/h on to Deerfoot if I want to, and screw everyone that gets delayed because of me.

No, you're the problem.

No it's not the same. Were talking about winter driving conditions. You expect everyone to drive the same as you yet reality dictates people drive differently due to road conditions. Impatient drivers also cause accidents too you know.

That's great that you leave a lot of room when it's slippery. So do I on my winters. To be safe though, you have to leave more room than me, because it will take you much longer to stop.

Depends how you brake and a drivers experience with dealing with slippery road conditions.

Now you have 80% of people with their all seasons doing this, and guess what? The roads all now have a dramatically reduced capacity and everyone is that much later, and despite you "driving really safe" there are still more accidents. I would bet everything I own that a larger percentage of cars with all seasons crash in the winter than cars with proper winter tires. All seasons ARE NOT made to drive in -20. You can find that from many many sources.

CFCN did a study a few winters back to what types of vehicles were getting into accidents. Of all the body shops they visited, the vast majority were filled with SUV,s and trucks. You know the vehicles that have the proper tires for the season.

So basically you are too lazy to own two sets of tires (I'd say cheap, but really it evens out in the end to almost the exact same cost) and as a result you screw everyone elses safety and commute times. Good work.

I drive an SUV with AT tires.

Next assumption?

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by Dion

No, you're the problem.

No it's not the same. Were talking about winter driving conditions. You expect everyone to drive the same as you yet reality dictates people drive differently due to road conditions. Impatient drivers also cause accidents too you know.



Depends how you brake and a drivers experience with dealing with slippery road conditions.



CFCN did a study a few winters back to what types of vehicles were getting into accidents. Of all the body shops they visited, the vast majority were filled with SUV,s and trucks. You know the vehicles that have the proper tires for the season.



I drive an SUV with AT tires.

Next assumption?

However, you forget to snap snap your fingers!

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Dion

No, you're the problem.

No it's not the same. Were talking about winter driving conditions. You expect everyone to drive the same as you yet reality dictates people drive differently due to road conditions. Impatient drivers also cause accidents too you know.

I'm still more cautious in winter conditions, winter tires don't make you invincible, but they don't leave you spinning your tires at a stop sign holding up everyone behind you. They also let you stop faster if something unexpected or out of your control happens, like getting cut off.

Depends how you brake and a drivers experience with dealing with slippery road conditions.

Lets go with the assumption that people know how to use ABS and hit the brakes to the floor.

CFCN did a study a few winters back to what types of vehicles were getting into accidents. Of all the body shops they visited, the vast majority were filled with SUV,s and trucks. You know the vehicles that have the proper tires for the season.

Completely wrong. No SUV or truck comes with winter tires from the factory.

I drive an SUV with AT tires.

Next assumption?

All terrain tires are NOT winter tires and suck balls on ice with a very knobby tread pattern. Try out some winters and you'll see a huge difference.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by habernac

I call BS on this. I've had all season tires for 20 years on my vehicles. I have zero accidents because I don't drive like a jackass.

Yup, but you have to drive slower and leave more room to do it.

What happens if you are cut off by someone else and you physically don't have enough stopping room left on your tires that aren't made for the conditions? What do you do to avoid that?

Have you ever had troubles getting going from an intersection? Or gone up a hill at 10km/h because you can barely get traction?

I know something that could help you out with those scenarios. Unless you're too lazy.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I'm still more cautious in winter conditions, winter tires don't make you invincible, but they don't leave you spinning your tires at a stop sign holding up everyone behind you. They also let you stop faster if something unexpected or out of your control happens, like getting cut off.

You keep going back to drivers holding you off. How about leaving early or not driving at all in the winter.

Completely wrong. No SUV or truck comes with winter tires from the factory.

And winter tires are the only tires that should be used during winter? Laugh.

So where were all those vehicles with summer tires you spouted off about?

How come they weren't the majority in the body shops?

Could it be that driving skills or lack of seems to be a cause of most the accidents.

All terrain tires are NOT winter tires and suck balls on ice with a very knobby tread pattern. Try out some winters and you'll see a huge difference.

Suck balls?

My driving abilities are quite fine, thank you!

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Yup, but you have to drive slower and leave more room to do it.

What happens if you are cut off by someone else and you physically don't have enough stopping room left on your tires that aren't made for the conditions? What do you do to avoid that?

Have you ever had troubles getting going from an intersection? Or gone up a hill at 10km/h because you can barely get traction?

I know something that could help you out with those scenarios. Unless you're too lazy.

The day I see a mid 90's mustang go up Sarcee Trail to Country Hills I will say that Snow Tires are a gift from god. Until then I'm with my all seasons.

[FireFly]

As a pedestrian, I'd like to thank those who don't roar around the corner as soon as I'm six inches out of their way. If I ever slipped, you'd probably kill me. Wait until the pedestrians are SAFELY on the sidewalk before finishing your turn, please and thank-you.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Doesn matter if you have all seasons or winters. if you suck at driving, nothing will save you. Like the old man who hit me because he spun out on his brand new winter tires that he got like 2 days ago. yeah, that helped him. This happened to me last year.

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by FireFly

As a pedestrian, I'd like to thank those who don't roar around the corner as soon as I'm six inches out of their way. If I ever slipped, you'd probably kill me. Wait until the pedestrians are SAFELY on the sidewalk before finishing your turn, please and thank-you.

Always will unless they start walking after the hand starts to flash. Then they don't have the right of way anymore. And as I walk around alot myself, I fully accept that when I'm crossing.

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

Doesn matter if you have all seasons or winters. if you suck at driving, nothing will save you. Like the old man who hit me because he spun out on his brand new winter tires that he got like 2 days ago. yeah, that helped him. This happened to me last year.

Sorry to hear that bud. How bad is the damage?