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Old 02-10-2005, 09:26 PM   #21
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Is there a list of CFL Free Agents available?
Here's a little story I googled:

http://www.recorder.ca/cp/Sports/050209/s020949A.html

The CFL's free-agent pool this year isn't overly deep, but still has some quality players to choose from. They include: receivers Jeremaine Copeland (Montreal), Travis Moore (Saskatchewan), Winston October and Ed Hervey (both Edmonton), Chris Brazzell (B.C.), linebacker Kevin Eiben (Toronto), defensive lineman Eric England (Toronto) and Rahim Abdullah (Edmonton), defensive backs Barron Miles and Davis Sanchez (both Montreal), Clifford Ivory and Adrion Smith (both Toronto) and CFL career rushing leader Mike Pringle (Edmonton).
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Sucks to see Wane go.

I thought he was really good.

We have some serious holes in the reciever department now.

Like Jiri said though, this opens the door for some big free agent signings!

I thought the guy displayed flashes of brilliance, but he seemed to play without heart most of the time.

Let's see who they bring in.
Let's see who they bring in.

Thats the key. I am not really going to judge anything they have done just yet.

I just thought that the McGarity non-signing was a bit of a surprise.

Is there a list of CFL Free Agents available? [/b][/quote]
meh, McGarity was non-impressive in '04. '03 he was good, but I guess the group is looking at last year to judge him on - non catches, no big plays...like has been said in this thread already.

But it seems like the club has a plan, otherwise they wouldn't have announced such moves quite yet. They seem solid too, so I'll trust them...for now...

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/index.php?showtopic=6799 <----FA list
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If a talented player has a crappy coach, how is he supposed to rise to new heights??? I believe that was Marcus's problem. The coaching tandem of John Jenkins/Matt Dunigan was brutal last year.
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If a talented player has a crappy coach, how is he supposed to rise to new heights??? I believe that was Marcus's problem. The coaching tandem of John Jenkins/Matt Dunigan was brutal last year.
I dunno though. 2002 under Wally and 2003 under Jim Barker and he underperformed as well. Wally's Wally, and Barker's a notorious offensive guy - why couldn't Crandell perform under them?

I'll stick with my Crandell hatin'.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:47 PM   #25
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http://forum.calgarypuck.com/index.php?showtopic=6799 <----FA list
HERVEY, Edward I WR

OCTOBER, Winston I WR

Those are good choices if you ask me.

Plus we can get them back for pouching Vaughn.

MOORE, Travis I SB

BURRIS, Henry I QB

Burris would have to be at the right price. I would love to see Moore back in the red and white!

COPELAND, Jeremaine I WR

Can Barker pry him out of Montreal?
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:04 PM   #26
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I agree buddy - 'cept for Moore - damaged goods. Don't overlook Chris Brazzel either.

Realistic to get 'em all? Hell no. But some will be great in my books.

hehe, you posted twice in that thread too and didn't know if there was a CFL FA list available? you're the man
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If a talented player has a crappy coach, how is he supposed to rise to new heights??? I believe that was Marcus's problem. The coaching tandem of John Jenkins/Matt Dunigan was brutal last year.
I dunno though. 2002 under Wally and 2003 under Jim Barker and he underperformed as well. Wally's Wally, and Barker's a notorious offensive guy - why couldn't Crandell perform under them?

I'll stick with my Crandell hatin'. [/b][/quote]
2001: George Cortez: Grey Cup MVP
2002: Jacques Chapdelaine: Inconsistent all season long
2003: Jim Barker: Again inconsistency mixed with injuries.
2004: John Jenkins/Matt Dunigan: Brutal offensive sysems & brutal coaching. Inconsistent play & long layoff due to serious season ending hand injury.

The only coach he truly performed well for was George Cortez.
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Old 02-10-2005, 11:02 PM   #28
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If a talented player has a crappy coach, how is he supposed to rise to new heights??? I believe that was Marcus's problem. The coaching tandem of John Jenkins/Matt Dunigan was brutal last year.

I dunno though. 2002 under Wally and 2003 under Jim Barker and he underperformed as well. Wally's Wally, and Barker's a notorious offensive guy - why couldn't Crandell perform under them?

I'll stick with my Crandell hatin'.
2001: George Cortez: Grey Cup MVP
2002: Jacques Chapdelaine: Inconsistent all season long
2003: Jim Barker: Again inconsistency mixed with injuries.
2004: John Jenkins/Matt Dunigan: Brutal offensive sysems & brutal coaching. Inconsistent play & long layoff due to serious season ending hand injury.

The only coach he truly performed well for was George Cortez. [/b][/quote]
Yeah he performed amazing all season 2001, what were we, only 1 loss all season or something? I mean the Stamps were a definite powerhouse that just rolled into the playoffs and over everyone throughout the playoffs too, right?

The bum got hot at just the right time, and won us a Grey Cup... give the bum as many excuses as you want, I don't care if Crandell has Vince Lombardi himself coaching him, NO coach can fix the plethora of one-hopper pass drive killers this guy throws EVERY game. Good riddance to that bum, I hope he ends up in Sask once we steal Burris and Greene shows that all he is is a glorified RB.
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I am glad to see Crandell and Mcgarrity gone. Crandell was horrible. Despite all the excuses of different co-ordinators/offenses he still couldn't complete passes without bouncing them to his recievers. That has nothing to do with his coaches.

Mcgarrity seemed to have too much focus on stuff off the field and lost concentration way too often last season. I think he has the talent to be a really good returner but returners seem to be easy to find in this league and his recieving skills are not as good as some of the guys available.

Surprised that Fields is gone. He seemed to play decent last year. He wasn't great but I don't see where we are getting his replacement from. I doubt that Sanchez or Smith leaving their teams.
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Old 02-11-2005, 07:38 AM   #30
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I expect the Stamps to be pretty active in the FA market.

Now, here's a questions for all you Stamps fans. I know there's a lot of interest in Burris out there outside of Sask (Calgary, Edmonton, Hamilton, Winnipeg). Rumour has it, he's looking for Dickenson/Calvillo type money (300-350K a year base) - is he worth it?

I think Burris is a great QB but I'm not sure about this kind of money - especially in a league where a couple high contracts (not on the same level but Martin Lapointe-type contracts) can put it into deep trouble again. No GC's, had a horrible first part of last year then won five games in a row, had an average Western semi and a great Western final. Although, I guess for you guys, you're already spending that kind of money on a QB already so I guess it's possibly just a matter of who the Stamps would rather have (Jones contract isn't guaranteed right?)... Anyway, interested to hear some thoughts...
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Yeah he performed amazing all season 2001, what were we, only 1 loss all season or something? I mean the Stamps were a definite powerhouse that just rolled into the playoffs and over everyone throughout the playoffs too, right?

The bum got hot at just the right time, and won us a Grey Cup... give the bum as many excuses as you want, I don't care if Crandell has Vince Lombardi himself coaching him,# NO coach can fix the plethora of one-hopper pass drive killers this guy throws EVERY game. Good riddance to that bum, I hope he ends up in Sask once we steal Burris and Greene shows that all he is is a glorified RB.
I get your sarcasm. The Stamps were awful in '01, barely making the playoffs. But you can't take away the fact that Marcus got hot at the most opportune time........I still maintain that his Western Final performance was superb, one of the best all-time. The guy's played under three coaching regimes in three years. I'd like to see what he could do with some consistency.
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Crandell didn't have a great west final or a great grey cup game. He had the 2 best halves of his career, that's it. He had great first halves in both games and then went back to his usual self in the second half by delivering 2-and-outs on a constant basis. He has never had a great game or even a great 3 quarters. The guy would make for a good backup, but nothing more.

@ Bench Warmer, CFL contracts are non guaranteed. Co they can just release Jones if they can't trade him to another team.
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Yeah he performed amazing all season 2001, what were we, only 1 loss all season or something? I mean the Stamps were a definite powerhouse that just rolled into the playoffs and over everyone throughout the playoffs too, right?

The bum got hot at just the right time, and won us a Grey Cup... give the bum as many excuses as you want, I don't care if Crandell has Vince Lombardi himself coaching him,# NO coach can fix the plethora of one-hopper pass drive killers this guy throws EVERY game. Good riddance to that bum, I hope he ends up in Sask once we steal Burris and Greene shows that all he is is a glorified RB.
I get your sarcasm. The Stamps were awful in '01, barely making the playoffs. But you can't take away the fact that Marcus got hot at the most opportune time........I still maintain that his Western Final performance was superb, one of the best all-time. The guy's played under three coaching regimes in three years. I'd like to see what he could do with some consistency. [/b][/quote]
Call me a cynic, but I think the West final win was more because of the (what was it, 7,8,9?) turnovers by the Esks... Crandell did NOTHING the second half of that game.

And once again, please answer, how is consistent coaching going to change Crandell from throwing one-hoppers? that is a physical thing that this bum does, any amount of coaching is not going to change it, especially at this stage in his career.
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Old 02-11-2005, 01:27 PM   #34
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my thoughts on Marcus were basically that the guy had the confidence of school girl. I remember fondly the game aganst the Als last year. I know it's the Als and all but Marcus had a great first drive, through a TD and looked great in doing so. Then he had one bad series and downhill from there.

I still miss Ben Sankey. I remember that labour day rematch where he played for the first time, and that was arguably one of the greatest Edm Cgy matches in recent history.
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There's an article in today's sun about the releases - including a note that the Stamps have come to terms with 3 receivers with NFL experience....just waiting for contracts to be finalized before announcing who they are. Interesting.
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Tom Higgins was just on the Big Show and was asked about K.Jones. It doesn't sound like Jones is in the Stamps plans. Higgins said that he told Jones to take care of things that are in his control and that as of now he is a Stampeder. Not a ringing endorsement by any means.
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It certainly didn't sound as though he was sold on Khari at all. He also confirmed that there were the three recievers that Jiri mentioned.

Sounds liek they will be active in the free agent market and it would appear that Burris could be a target.
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Nobody knows if KJ's shoulder will hold out for 1 game let alone an entire season. If KJ wants to stay in Calgary, he'll be asked to take a huge pay cut, I'll bet.
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