10-31-2007, 09:32 AM
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he movie, “The Golden Compass,” is adapted from the first novel in a trilogy called “His Dark Materials” by English author Philip Pullman, an outspoken atheist. Critics fear that the film, due out in December, will encourage children to read the anti-Church series.
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Ummm that's a good thing isn't it?
Shouldn't we be encouraging kids to read, to question and to figure things out for themselves? Always thought that was a primary role of a parent.
Last edited by ernie; 10-31-2007 at 09:36 AM.
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10-31-2007, 09:35 AM
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Isnt religion really just a theory??? How dare they question it.. After all if it was written 2,000 years ago it has to be true.. Thats why I can't stand religious fanatics.. Its all about keeping the sheep in line..
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10-31-2007, 09:38 AM
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If it isn't God then it's the DEVIL!!
Seriously.. how about some tolerance for other points of view?
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10-31-2007, 09:43 AM
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Had an idea!
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God save us all from religion.
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10-31-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Isnt religion really just a theory??? How dare they question it.. After all if it was written 2,000 years ago it has to be true.. Thats why I can't stand religious fanatics.. Its all about keeping the sheep in line..
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2000 years ago? I thought most of it was a little more recent...
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10-31-2007, 09:59 AM
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Well I guess not every piece of literature is as heavy in Christian over tones as C.S. Lewis. Bill Donohue is a jackass and I guarantee he has not read the books or seen the movie, he is told by his staff what is a hot button issue and then goes to the media with it, rarely even reading the press releases he signs.
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10-31-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheese
Does he have a point? Is this an Atheist conspiracy? What about the role of the church and its magic men in Movies and Television?
A children’s fantasy film that stars Nicole Kidman and features a little girl on a quest to kill God has some Christian groups upset over what they believe is a ploy to promote atheism to kids.
"These books denigrate Christianity, thrash the Catholic Church and sell the virtues of atheism," said Bill Donohue, president and CEO of the Catholic League.
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Yeah it is. I remember when I read the book a couple years ago, at the end, I sat back and went "wow, I can't believe they went there" - its a critisism of all organized religions. The Book itself particularly explicitely critisizes the Roman Catholic Church.
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10-31-2007, 10:01 AM
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I'll rewrite the first paragraph:
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The movie, “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe,” is adapted from the first novel in a series called “The Chronicles of Narnia” by Irish author C. S. Lewis, an outspoken Christian. Critics fear that the film, due out in December, will encourage children to read the pro-Church series.
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Where was the outcry then?
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10-31-2007, 10:07 AM
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I'll rewrite the first paragraph:
Where was the outcry then?
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LOL, I was going to make the exact same point about the Chronicles of Narnia! 
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10-31-2007, 10:11 AM
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10-31-2007, 10:39 AM
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2000 years ago? I thought most of it was a little more recent...
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Wasnt referring to those books.. 
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10-31-2007, 10:46 AM
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how can it be a conspiracy when the author is a known athiest and he wrote the book to be a counter point to all the christian children's books? I thought it was pretty obvious what the message was.
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10-31-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cSpooge
how can it be a conspiracy when the author is a known athiest and he wrote the book to be a counter point to all the christian children's books? I thought it was pretty obvious what the message was.
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In the same way that J.K. Rowling is anti-christian because she writes about magic, wizards and other devilish things (especially that homosexuality!). These Christian groups just want press so they can sound louder then they actually are. They have misinterpreted the request to spread the word of god to mean "enforce the word of god on all you can".
Dismiss them as nutbags and go on with your life
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10-31-2007, 11:26 AM
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"These books denigrate Christianity, thrash the Catholic Church and sell the virtues of atheism," said Bill Donohue, president and CEO of the Catholic League.
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I haven't read the books or seen the movie, but assuming this is true, there are plenty of children's book and movies that thrash atheism and sells the virtues Christianity. What's the difference? Christians don't have the exclusive rights to try and sell others on their philosophy.
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10-31-2007, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackEleven
[/i]I haven't read the books or seen the movie, but assuming this is true, there are plenty of children's book and movies that thrash atheism and sells the virtues Christianity. What's the difference? Christians don't have the exclusive rights to try and sell others on their philosophy.
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I'd assume that from a Christian perspective, they realize that indoctrinating children at a young age is the only way they have a chance at holding the children's beliefs through their lives. I'd guess that the ratio of children who are raised atheist and convert to christianity at some point through their lives is fairly miniscule, compared to the ratio of children who are raised as christians but convert to atheism. Christianity really depends on that head-start.
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10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by llama64
In the same way that J.K. Rowling is anti-christian because she writes about magic, wizards and other devilish things (especially that homosexuality!). These Christian groups just want press so they can sound louder then they actually are. They have misinterpreted the request to spread the word of god to mean "enforce the word of god on all you can".
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Thats funny because Rowling claims to be a Christian.
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10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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LOL, I was going to make the exact same point about the Chronicles of Narnia! |
Same thing could be said about LOTR.
Heard no outcry about it either....and Tolkien was a dedicated Christian as well.
Catholic too.
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10-31-2007, 11:47 AM
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Thats funny because Rowling claims to be a Christian. |
Indeed. These are fringe groups who don't have a clear grip on reality. They are great at grabbing press headlines, but beyond that their impact on society is rather minimal. My favorite is when they got together to burn a bunch of the Harry Potter books. I wonder how much money they contributed to Rowling's estate :P
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10-31-2007, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by llama64
Indeed. These are fringe groups who don't have a clear grip on reality. They are great at grabbing press headlines, but beyond that their impact on society is rather minimal. My favorite is when they got together to burn a bunch of the Harry Potter books. I wonder how much money they contributed to Rowling's estate :P
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Organized religion is like that for the most part.
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