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Old 10-19-2007, 02:11 PM   #61
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Aggressive drivers like you are what causes accidents and kills people.

This is why a lot of people don't even bother signalling when they make lane changes. Signalling just makes the other vehicals speed up and close the gap so you can't get in.

Its not neccesarily the aggressive drivers causing the accidents. Its gotta be put partialy on irresponsible drivers. Not signaling to change lanes? Not an overly aggressive move but a pretty boneheaded move when driving. You try to change lanes without signaling, in my mind if you get run over, you pretty much deserve it
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:17 PM   #62
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:21 PM   #63
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It wasn't a merge. It was a lane change
I think what he means is that By Law... you are SUPPOSED to let someone in if it is a merge, he's not saying that your case was a merge.

I've had ass hat drivers who was CLEARLY low on self confidence and HAD to be ahead of me during my merge... I sped up, signalled and as I start my merge, this guy, who I initially had enough time to merge in front of him, just floors the gas to get past me and I had to go on the side of the road because of this stupid idiot and it was a merge where I was supposed to let in.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:22 PM   #64
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As someone who lives in a small town (after 20 years of living in Calgary), I find these threads about driving in Calgary kind of amusing. The pee'ing matches that go in these threads are reflective of the state of affairs on the roadways in Calgary, except the pee'ing matches that occur on the streets of Calgary can get a lot more expensive ... even deadly. Chill out everybody. You'll live longer.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:33 PM   #65
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Its not neccesarily the aggressive drivers causing the accidents. Its gotta be put partialy on irresponsible drivers. Not signaling to change lanes? Not an overly aggressive move but a pretty boneheaded move when driving. You try to change lanes without signaling, in my mind if you get run over, you pretty much deserve it
The point is, the reason why people get into the habit of not signalling is because of aggressive drivers who don't let people make lane changes in front of them.

I encountered this a lot when I lived in Vancouver. If you signal to make a lane change, at least half the time, the drivers in the next lane speed up and tailgate each other to not let you in. There are certain stretches of road in Vancouver (especially Richmond) that during rush hours, hardly anyone bothers signalling anymore because of those attitudes.

Not signalling might be "reatrded" as someone put it, but those habits are usually learned because of having to deal with other idiot drivers.

For the record, I always signal when I make a lane change, but I avoid having to make lane changes by getting the lane I need to be in WELL in advance. I'll drive all the way through a city in the slow lane if I know that is the lane I eventually need to be in. It drives my passengers nuts, but whatever...
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:36 PM   #66
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agreed, signalling like shoulder-checks, should be ingrained in every driver from the start. it shouldn't even be a choice, your hand should hit the signal automatically.
When you want to do a lane change, signal first, and proceed when safe to do so. Is it that hard? Not talking to you specifically, but in general
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:40 PM   #67
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When you want to do a lane change, signal first, and proceed when safe to do so. Is it that hard? Not talking to you specifically, but in general

But you've already stated that you are the kind of driver that purposely makes it unsafe for people to make lane changes in front of you.

Why is it that you expect courtesy from other drivers, but then don't feel the need to act that way?
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:50 PM   #68
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Tying this back to the original topic, can anybody tell me why there aren't guys directing traffic after the game? There's guys there before the game telling you to park beside the last guy. And it's not like we aren't paying for parking.

That would solve a lot of issues that come up.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:54 PM   #69
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But you've already stated that you are the kind of driver that purposely makes it unsafe for people to make lane changes in front of you.

Why is it that you expect courtesy from other drivers, but then don't feel the need to act that way?
Depends if I'm in a rush or not. But if you don't signal, you're not getting in 100% of the time
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:55 PM   #70
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Yeah, and you must be the ######bag that cuts people off just to make a lane change without even signalling. I knew you looked familiar
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If they're trying to cut me off, I speed up. Otherwise, I just drive my normal speed, I do let other cars in the odd time.
The odd time?

What's your rule for letting people in?
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:29 PM   #72
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Frig I go to a meeting and miss out on this debate.. To the guy who thinks there should be a tax based on vehicle size downtown... I'm pretty sure unless I'm driving an H1 alpha I'm not taking up two spots so whats the difference.. And your hate on for people with $60,000 vehicles sounds like a problem between your legs not ours.. I don't get jealous so why do you?? I don't commute downtown, but I can't see how the height and slightly larger length of a vehicle causes so much grief they should be banished.. Unless you walk, ride a bike or take the bus your just a hypocrite.. It's like a vegan with leather seats in their BMW..

Oh and the discussion about signalling ect.. I signal all the time, but if your going to cut in without signalling I will close the gap.. And the correlation between aggressive drivers and accidents is some what a farce.. I know alot of timid drivers who are bouncing their cars off fixed objects all the time.. There are always exceptions to the rule but usually someone who drives with confidence is alot more capable than someone who is scared.

And I don't race my truck on the street.. I may drive fast but the main reason i bought the truck was it's capable of passing effectively on the highway to bc. My truck on average, uses less fuel than my brother's 3.0 liter powered windstar van.. Yet produces power in excess of 400 hp and 850 ft/lbs of torque.. Enough power for basically anything you could imagine..

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Old 10-19-2007, 04:29 PM   #73
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No, because its not the law to let someone in. It may be courteous, but its not the law. If someone wants in my lane, they are more than welcomed to as long as its behind me!
And you'd be wrong. My sister is a cop and while driving down 22x, off duty, she noticed some guy go right to the end of the merge and force his way into the other lane. Kind of the opposite of what is being discussed here, but the same in principle. The offense I believe is driving without consideration for others on the road. So by purposely not letting people into your lane it is in fact against the law.
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Depends if I'm in a rush or not. But if you don't signal, you're not getting in 100% of the time
Depends if you're in a rush or not? I have an idea, leave for your destination earlier so you aren't in a rush.

Driver's like you cause accidents, and contribute to road rage.

Boy I'm glad I live in a small town right now and don't have to deal with prick drivers.
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And you'd be wrong. My sister is a cop and while driving down 22x, off duty, she noticed some guy go right to the end of the merge and force his way into the other lane. Kind of the opposite of what is being discussed here, but the same in principle. The offense I believe is driving without consideration for others on the road. So by purposely not letting people into your lane it is in fact against the law.
Right of way in a merge lane is 50:50.. The idea is to make a gap regardless of who was on the main road first. One thing I would like to see if tickets written for people who slam on the brakes in a merge. I lost a guy I worked with because a women panic stopped infront of him while he was shoulder checking on his motorcycle. It was completely her fault and naturally he's the one who pays with his life. Ive actually driven on the shoulder around those people and still made it up to speed to merge effectively.. So whats their excuse??
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:45 PM   #76
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Right of way in a merge lane is 50:50.. The idea is to make a gap regardless of who was on the main road first. One thing I would like to see if tickets written for people who slam on the brakes in a merge. I lost a guy I worked with because a women panic stopped infront of him while he was shoulder checking on his motorcycle. It was completely her fault and naturally he's the one who pays with his life. Ive actually driven on the shoulder around those people and still made it up to speed to merge effectively.. So whats their excuse??
Maybe you can't read. I said the guy went to the end of the merge and forced his way into the other lane. I did not say he went to the end of the merge, put his signal on, waited courteously for someone to let him in and waved thank you.
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By far the worst merging behaviour is the loser who speeds from the back of the merge lane to cut off / pass another vehicle that is merging in front of them, typically crossing solid white lines in the process.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:32 PM   #78
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By far the worst merging behaviour is the loser who speeds from the back of the merge lane to cut off / pass another vehicle that is merging in front of them, typically crossing solid white lines in the process.
can we add to this the always ever present drivers who seem to think merging at 10-20 kph below the posted limit is always a good idea.
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Tying this back to the original topic, can anybody tell me why there aren't guys directing traffic after the game? There's guys there before the game telling you to park beside the last guy. And it's not like we aren't paying for parking.

That would solve a lot of issues that come up.
They are probably leaving early to beat the rush!
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Right of way in a merge lane is 50:50.. The idea is to make a gap regardless of who was on the main road first. One thing I would like to see if tickets written for people who slam on the brakes in a merge. I lost a guy I worked with because a women panic stopped infront of him while he was shoulder checking on his motorcycle. It was completely her fault and naturally he's the one who pays with his life. Ive actually driven on the shoulder around those people and still made it up to speed to merge effectively.. So whats their excuse??
Thats one of my big pet peeves as well. you can fail a driving test for nudging a curb when parallel parking but who gives a hoot if you can merge or not.
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