Is it art?

[Phaneuf3]

http://www.theginblog.com/2007/10/ar...-animal-abuse/

Guillermo Habacuc Vargas had 2 children catch this dog. He paid the kids for this. He then chained the dog and used the dog as “art”. He told everyone not to feed this dog. The dog died in the gallery. He calls himself an artist. I call him an animal abuser.

discuss.

[peter12]

Maybe his next exhibit should involve him chained up in a gallery somewhere.

[BlackEleven]

Its about as artistic as him going to jail for animal abuse.

[underGRADFlame]

I can't even bring myself to click on the link, it just makes me sick. Makes me want to donate more to WSPA then i normally do.

[Drunk Skunk]

Is Mike Vick an artist for breaking a dog's neck, or shooting a dog? It's exactly the same situation. One dog is murdered by neglect, and one dog is murdered by an overtly violent act.

[llama64]

Originally Posted by peter12

Maybe his next exhibit should involve him chained up in a gallery somewhere.

Punishment that fits the crime? Oh hell yeah. This pretentious scum bag should get a taste of empathy.

[Dan02]

Not only the artist but how did the gallery let that happen? This is worse then just one moron.

[jolinar of malkshor]

People are f*****. The public needs to stand up to these kinds of stunts.

[HalifaxDrunk]

What is wrong with some people, this is not art its torture. What passes as "art" nowadays is just stupid, pick up a paint brush, write a poem or song, Sculpture something, ETC.

I'd love to show this guy how I'm an artist with a baseball bat.

[Burninator]

Are you kidding me? How can someone even pose this as a question? Clearly animal abuse.

[ken0042]

I think the person attempting to be the artist is confused.

One classic piece of "art" is a photo taken during the Vietnam War. I shows a little girl; about 8 years old, running down the road in terror. It is "art" because art can make us stop to think; and to put a human face onto large scale event. However the soldiers who dropped the bombs on her village were not the "artists."

[rubecube]

If you click on the link, there's another link to a petition to ban this exhibit from Bienal Centroamericana Honduras 2008. I signed it.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I think the person attempting to be the artist is confused.

One classic piece of "art" is a photo taken during the Vietnam War. I shows a little girl; about 8 years old, running down the road in terror. It is "art" because art can make us stop to think; and to put a human face onto large scale event. However the soldiers who dropped the bombs on her village were not the "artists."

Is that the photo where that poor girl is naked and scorched by napalm? Not sure I would fit that into the "art" category either, more of a very sad frozen moment of history that serves to remind us of the horror of war. To me, art is something to be appreciated.

This other "artist" needs to get his head caved in likewise to all the people attending the art gallery. How anyone can justify that stomach turning scene as "art" is beyond me. People blow my mind, daily. Someone in that crowd should have walked in there with chain cutters and set the dog free and smacked anyone who tried to stop him upside the head with said chain cutters.

[mykalberta]

Again, yet another reason why some should have the ability for procreation removed.

[jammies]

There is a misconception that defining such activities as "art" somehow makes them acceptable; it is a poor artist indeed who relies on the power of shock to try to get across a concept, as the shock itself generally overrides whatever the message of the work is intended to be. Trying to argue with such "artists" and their defenders on whether or not a particular work can be defined as art is beside the point - what is needed is for the prevailing opinion (amongst the critics and intellectual set, anyway) that art must somehow be controversial and difficult to understand in order to have value that should be changed.

Outrage is what these "artists" expect; indifference and ridicule would be far more effective in relegating such noxious little minds to the irrelevancy they deserve. In this particular case, I would hope that Mr. Vargas gets the maximum penalty for his actions under the law, and that the judge puts a publicity ban on the trial so the platform for Vargas' undoubted appeal to his "artistic vision" does not exist.

[ricoFlame]

apparently calling things art is a way of justifying a crime. good god, what a nut.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

People are f*****. The public needs to stand up to these kinds of stunts.

Agreed. Why did nobody just say **** it and untie the dog themselves. Awful thing to do.

[metallicat]

How long was the dog chained up for, and why wasn't a stop put to this? Incredible the things people think are OK to do.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

How long was the dog chained up for, and why wasn't a stop put to this?

I can see how the public may have missed this one. As an example, when you go to the corner store and see a dog tied up outside, do you investigate? If I had walked past this dog, I likely would not have known he was being starved to death; all I would know is there's a sign asking not to feed the dog. And the reasonable conclusion I would draw from the sign is that the've had problems with the public feeding him non-dog types of food.

[REDVAN]

Despite it being art, it is cruelty to animals.

I guess anything can be art if you have a sick mind... but some people need to learn that not everything that is art is LEGAL and moral.