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Old 10-15-2007, 05:52 PM   #41
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Related story: http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...7f2516&k=57718
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:54 PM   #42
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Someone should have done a drive by mask-grabbing. Show your faces you cowards.
I think a drive by 2x4 upside the head would be more appropriate, but I guess that's beside the point
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:09 PM   #43
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That one really upsets me. If the Catholic, Mormon or Protestant communities decided to go through with that plan, you'd be hearing nothing about how "racist and anti-Canadian"
No we wouldn't. We don't hear it now, and those kinds of communities exist. Christianity gets a free ride, just like all the other sects.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:32 PM   #44
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I had some flyer for a white supremacist group on my windshield when I came out of Costco NE on Saturday. It really bothered me that someone would distribute that kind of stuff.
OMG you are joking!
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:42 PM   #45
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Exactly! I can't believe frankster actually decided to go to Costco on a Saturday. WDF???
Even more shocking is that white sepremicists are trying to recruit in the NE. Are they trying to recruit all the Indians?
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:48 PM   #46
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actually when I was in high school I had to report on White supremacists for my law class- I cant tell you the disgusting things I found and the deepness of their hate ...it is really scary and sad, they had pictures, songs, videos Its still shakes me up 7 years later
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:51 PM   #47
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A group of 15 neo-Nazis, most wearing balaclavas and carrying black flags bearing a "white pride" Celtic symbol, clashed with a crowd of over 60 counter-protesters Sunday afternoon.
On the eve of a civic election, the white supremacist group handed out leaflets protesting Canadian legislation allowing women to vote wearing face-covering burkas.

"We got two cabs to meet them on the west side of the Cecil Hotel," said duty inspector Guy Slater.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...8a6e09&k=68506


another article - haha the Cecil- it is legendary is it not?
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I find it hilarious that these guys hide their faces in public.

They need to be round up and put in a large pen with the biggest black linemen in the CFL for an unescapable hug-in. Kill them with kindness.

That'd teach them.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:02 PM   #49
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No we wouldn't. We don't hear it now, and those kinds of communities exist. Christianity gets a free ride, just like all the other sects.
So exclusive communities have been set aside through legislation for Christian sects? Prove it.

No one is denying Muslims the right to BUY property around a mosque.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:23 PM   #50
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So exclusive communities have been set aside through legislation for Christian sects? Prove it.

No one is denying Muslims the right to BUY property around a mosque.
What legislation? I only read the one article in the thread, and I didn't read anything about legislation, so, umm, is there legislation out there in regards to this housing development?

Anyway, the point was that the tried and true "if Christians tried this there would be an uproar" is a load of rich creamery butter. About half an hour ago I was offered the choice to divert my tax dollars to a Christian church. The whole "oh, the poor Christians are so downtrodden" doesn't exactly ring true.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:47 PM   #52
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"We got two cabs to meet them on the west side of the Cecil Hotel," said duty inspector Guy Slater.
Was their driver white? I don't think I've had a white cabbie driver for about 8 years now. Damn immigrants taking all the good jobs....
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:01 PM   #53
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Anyway, the point was that the tried and true "if Christians tried this there would be an uproar" is a load of rich creamery butter. About half an hour ago I was offered the choice to divert my tax dollars to a Christian church. The whole "oh, the poor Christians are so downtrodden" doesn't exactly ring true.
That's just it though. I'm not a Christian, and I'm not drawing a line in the sand with my beliefs.

At least Hutterite colonies develop their own, often self-relient communities outside of the city, where the majority of the public aren't going to dwell and function.

I can pretty well assure you, that if a Christian group proposed the idea that they were going to build a community in a subdivision of Calgary that catered exclusively to the Christian religion and their lifestyle, including an enormous Church of whatever version of that faith they chose, along with strictly-Christian street names and ammenities, that there would be such an uproar over it, they would have no choice but to throw it out the window. It would be considered "repressing" and "discriminatory," because people of other ideologies would not have access to what the certain things they deem as important.

Why should this be any different?

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You don't think that if plans were implemented to build a subdivision inside of Calgary that catered exclusively to Christians, even if they said they would let non-Christians in, but that they would have to live with strictly Christian street names, and is built around a giant Church, that other certain minorities in this city wouldn't be up in arms, demanding the idea be abolished? I'm sure the words "repression," and "civil rights" would be thrown around like candy in a parade. It contradicts everything Canada is.
Sure I think that would happen. Just like it's happening to this dumb Muslim community idea now. The sentiment seems to be "if Christians were to do this, people would bitch", which is true. Now it's Muslims doing it and people are bitching just as loud. What's the difference? The bitching isn't only applied to Christianity, even though we hear it like that all the time. It's a myth.
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I saw this on TV and this has hypocrisy written all over it.. Why not just stay in your native country if you want to self segregate?

If not, blend in to OUR society and be part of the community, or GTFO.
I'm against any and all segregation for base of religion, including religious schools.
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Sure I think that would happen. Just like it's happening to this dumb Muslim community idea now. The sentiment seems to be "if Christians were to do this, people would bitch", which is true. Now it's Muslims doing it and people are bitching just as loud. What's the difference? The bitching isn't only applied to Christianity, even though we hear it like that all the time. It's a myth.
Exactly, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. I only use Christianity as an example, because it speaks as the majority in this country. It would be no different if Hindu, or Judaism or whatever were the majority.

Religion should not play a role in legislation or the development of a multicultural society and community like Canada is suppose to be. It seems there are simply too many people not playing by the rules, or trying to play the whole race/religion card whenever stuff like this happens. You want to belong to a certain religion? Go ahead. I don't think you should get any special treatment because you worship a certain god, though. That's not what Canada is. Everyone should have to play by the same rules. Unfortunately, not everybody is, and because we live in such a "religiously sensitive" era, people are afraid of saying no and enforcing those rules.

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Why should this be any different?
It shouldn't be any different. It isn't. There will be an uproar about the Muslim community proposal just like there would/should be about a Christian community proposal. The suggestion, as I read it, is that we'd raise a stink about a Christian community but not some other religion doing the same thing, all in the name of "political correctness". I don't think that is true.
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Exactly, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. I only use Christianity as an example, because it speaks as the majority in this country. It would be no different if Hindu, or Judaism or whatever were the majority.

Religion should not play a role in legislation or the development of a multicultural society and community like Canada is suppose to be. It seems there are simply too many people not playing by the rules, or trying to play the whole race/religion card whenever stuff like this happens. You want to belong to a certain religion? Go ahead. I don't think you should get any special treatment because you worship a certain god, though. That's not what Canada is. Everyone should have to play by the same rules. Unfortunately, not everybody is, and because we live in such a "religiously sensitive" era, people are afraid of saying no and enforcing those rules.
Ha ha. Okay, I think we are agreeing here.
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Exactly, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. I only use Christianity as an example, because it speaks as the majority in this country. It would be no different if Hindu, or Judaism or whatever were the majority.

Religion should not play a role in legislation or the development of a multicultural society and community like Canada is suppose to be. It seems there are simply too many people not playing by the rules, or trying to play the whole race/religion card whenever stuff like this happens. You want to belong to a certain religion? Go ahead. I don't think you should get any special treatment because you worship a certain god, though. That's not what Canada is. Everyone should have to play by the same rules. Unfortunately, not everybody is, and because we live in such a "religiously sensitive" era, people are afraid of saying no and enforcing those rules.
Well said
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Ha ha. Okay, I think we are agreeing here.
Apparently arguing over the same points.
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