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Old 10-14-2007, 03:15 PM   #1
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Default Man dies after being tasered in Vancouver Airport (updated)

Seem to recall a thread a while back where it was stated do one had died from being tasered (who were not high or somesuch asterix).

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VANCOUVER - A man is dead after he was Tasered by police following an incident at the Vancouver International Airport Sunday.
Police say the incident involved a man in his 40s who had disembarked from an international flight and was waiting for his luggage at about 1:30 a.m.

He began screaming in an Eastern European language and throwing chairs around, said RCMP spokesman Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre. RCMP officers stationed in the terminal building were called to deal with the situation after airport security failed to calm the man down, Lemaitre said.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...9da88b&k=62823

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Old 10-14-2007, 03:23 PM   #2
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No where does it say the man died from being tasered.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:23 PM   #3
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:24 PM   #4
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No where does it say the man died from being tasered.
Sure it does.

Man dies after being tasered by RCMP


Jonathan Woodward, CanWest News Service

Published: Sunday, October 14, 2007
VANCOUVER - A man is dead after he was Tasered by police following an incident at the Vancouver International Airport Sunday.

EDIT: Or just listen to what Mr. Lemmon wrote too! Yeah that works!
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:37 PM   #6
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no doubt the man didnt die because he was tasered or at least we dont know that yet....sounds like drugs to me, and if you are going to make a scene like that in a highly sensitive area...take responsibility for yourself...
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:00 PM   #7
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Sure it does.

Man dies after being tasered by RCMP


Jonathan Woodward, CanWest News Service

Published: Sunday, October 14, 2007
VANCOUVER - A man is dead after he was Tasered by police following an incident at the Vancouver International Airport Sunday.

EDIT: Or just listen to what Mr. Lemmon wrote too! Yeah that works!
Yes, doesn't say the taser killed him. Sounds more like something else was wrong with him, maybe the handcuffing killed him? I will say that any condition he may have had was likely exsasperated by the taser.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:01 PM   #8
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no doubt the man didnt die because he was tasered
Let's see here.

1. Man tasered
2. Man dies

Do you think there is a connection?

"Sounds like drugs"? What does? A guy getting pissed off in the airport?
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:38 PM   #9
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Yes, doesn't say the taser killed him. Sounds more like something else was wrong with him, maybe the handcuffing killed him? I will say that any condition he may have had was likely exsasperated by the taser.
Yup, and a guy doesn't die from being shot by the gun, he dies from the damage the bullet does striking him. Semantics. Same tired stuff that Taser International likes to tell you through their press releases, even though they admit otherwise privately. Fact of the matter is that tasers can, and do, exacerbate health issues/risks that lead to lead to deaths. Spin it any way you wish, but without the tasing, the guy is probably alive today.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:39 PM   #10
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Let's see here.

1. Man tasered
2. Man dies

Do you think there is a connection?

"Sounds like drugs"? What does? A guy getting pissed off in the airport?
Guess he should of stopped resisting.

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Old 10-14-2007, 04:43 PM   #11
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Is this the video of it happening? If so that's pretty disturbing...But otherwise it really has no place in this thread.
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Guess he should of stopped resisting.

ZZzzzztttt
Yeah, he probably should have stopped resisting. Maybe the cops should have done their job a little better too.

Whatever. I knew the minute I saw this story there would be plenty of people in here who think donning a blue uniform makes someone infallible. A cop could shoot an 8 year old in the back and someone would say "he shouldn't have been running away".
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Is this the video of it happening? If so that's pretty disturbing...But otherwise it really has no place in this thread.
It's a video of that fool at the Kerry event in the States. There was a big blow up about it only a month or 2 ago. Just another guy that was tasered after being beligerent and not calming down after police had had told him to stop resisting.
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Yup, and a guy doesn't die from being shot by the gun, he dies from the damage the bullet does striking him. Semantics. Same tired stuff that Taser International likes to tell you through their press releases, even though they admit otherwise privately. Fact of the matter is that tasers can, and do, exacerbate health issues/risks that lead to lead to deaths. Spin it any way you wish, but without the tasing, the guy is probably alive today.
Could be the case but until an autopsy is done we will not know.
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I'm quite sure the number of lives saved by the taser outweighs the number of people killed with the taser. For that reason alone I support it.

As for this situation, it doesn't say what killed him. The man went unconscious 4 minutes after being tasered and died sometime after that. It's hard to say exactly what happened to his body right now. I'll wait for the coroners report before jumping to conclusions. Not sure what else the cops may have done in this case.
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Let's see here.

1. Man tasered
2. Man dies

Do you think there is a connection?

"Sounds like drugs"? What does? A guy getting pissed off in the airport?
We don't know the facts so why do people always jump on the police? The article says he was sweating profusely. Indication he may have been on something? Yes. It took three officers to hold him down. Indication he may have been on something? Yes. Not to mention the behavior was completely irrational. Indication he may have been on something? Yes. Most people dont throw computers around when they find out there luggage is lost.
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I don't know wh they don't just change the law to Resist arrest and a cop can kill you, eliminate all the kerfuffle afterwards. Its that way in practice anyway.
OMG. Are you for real? Because that is what happened isn't it. There was no intention of killing the person. They used an approved devise to achieve control over the subject. Do to what ever reason, the subject died in the process.
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I bet the toxicology reports or whatever it is that discovers substances like drugs in ones body come back with something that at the very least, caused this guy to act the way he was. I still haven't seen conclusive proof that a taser has ever been directly linked to a death, but we probably shouldn't get into that again.

It's lose-lose for cops these days.
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:25 PM   #19
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We don't know the facts so why do people always jump on the police?

People jump on the police because they are in the public eye and because they do some really stupid things at times, like tasing people for less than appropriate reasons.

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The article says he was sweating profusely. Indication he may have been on something? Yes.
No. Could have been he had been travelling all day and was worked up over his luggage being lost. Ever have your luggage lost on a flight? Ever think about the poor s from another country who don't know the language and know they have nothing else in the country but that luggage? Think that may have got him just a little worked up and was the cause for him sweating profusely? No, he had to have been on something.

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It took three officers to hold him down. Indication he may have been on something? Yes.
No. The article says he was under control, but still yelling, probably because he couldn't understand the language being spoken to him, and because his luggage had been lost. No, I'm sure you would go to another country, deal with people that you couldn't understand, know everything that you had in the country was gone, and that you would just be right as rain and net be frustrated in any way. Especially at 1:30 in the morning. Nope, the guy was on something.

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Not to mention the behavior was completely irrational. Indication he may have been on something? Yes.
Again, you go to a foreign country after traveling all day, have your luggage lost, get no answers from anyone because you can't speak the language, and see how rational you are. No, you'll be mister rational and not say a word to anyone crossly. This guy had to have been on drugs.

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Most people dont throw computers around when they find out there luggage is lost.
You should lose your luggage sometime, or be around people who have had their luggage lost, and see how rational people can be. It's not pretty. The longer they have to wait, the worse it gets. If this guy was there for an extended amount of time, it wouldn't surprise me. That's a very stressful situation to be in.
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