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Old 09-29-2007, 09:17 AM   #1
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The lawsuit maintained that because other teams found illegal videotaping by the defendants, Jets ticket holders should be compensated for all games played in Giants Stadium between the Jets and Patriots since Belichick became head coach in 2000. The two calculated that because customers paid $61.6 million to watch eight "fraudulent" games, they're entitled to triple that amount -- or $184.8 million -- in compensation under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:29 AM   #2
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Whats next....suing a team when one of their players is found to have taken steroids?

laughable.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:31 AM   #3
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good thing we've got people using the legal system for important stuff like this. Unreal.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:49 AM   #4
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If this does go to court. I think it will be very interesting to see what kind of dirt, or lack there of, they find on the Patriots. Because I feel that the NFL has done their best to try to minimize the whole situation.
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Everytime I see things like this, its as comic as Hacksaw Jim Duggan stirring the crowd into a frenzy, yelling:
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Isn't there anything preventing frivolous lawsuits like this?
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I guess I don't find it that "frivolous."

If somebody sued the WWE because the match was staged; that would be frivolous. But in this case people paid to see a football game. Turns out the one team wasn't playing by the rules; and it really wasn't much of a game.

And it's not like the Cleveland Browns cheated against the Colts; which would have maybe evened things up. The Pats were a heavy favourite to win, and then add the cheating and it went from being a lopsided match up to no chance of the Jets winning.
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if you'd been paying attention, Ken, you'd know that they were studying the signs for use at a later date, not that game in particular. Here's a great email from ESPN:

"I was watching ESPN2's showing of the '98 wild-card game between the Packers and 49ers where Young connects with T.O. to win the game. On Green Bay's last drive, Favre called a dummy audible on his TD pass to Freeman because (his words) he knew the 49ers had decoded all of their signals since they had played so many times in the last few years. Watching this, I was confused, since certain writers had convinced me that Belichick's attempt to steal signals was the first time this ever occurred in football and potentially threatened to ruin not just the Patriots, not just the NFL, not just sports, but according to Gregg Easterbrook, the very fabric of American society. Now we know it's been going on since 1998, at least. So I guess we'll be OK."

This thing is so overblown, it's a joke.
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Isn't there anything preventing frivolous lawsuits like this?
No especially in the US. It doesn't cost them anything to sue companies in the US even if they lose.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:17 PM   #10
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if you'd been paying attention, Ken, you'd know that they were studying the signs for use at a later date, not that game in particular. Here's a great email from ESPN:

"I was watching ESPN2's showing of the '98 wild-card game between the Packers and 49ers where Young connects with T.O. to win the game. On Green Bay's last drive, Favre called a dummy audible on his TD pass to Freeman because (his words) he knew the 49ers had decoded all of their signals since they had played so many times in the last few years. Watching this, I was confused, since certain writers had convinced me that Belichick's attempt to steal signals was the first time this ever occurred in football and potentially threatened to ruin not just the Patriots, not just the NFL, not just sports, but according to Gregg Easterbrook, the very fabric of American society. Now we know it's been going on since 1998, at least. So I guess we'll be OK."

This thing is so overblown, it's a joke.
Some people have defintley blown it up into much more then it should be.

Everyone understands stealing signals is a part of the game, but it's the video freaking taping of it that everyone has a problem with.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:41 PM   #11
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If somebody sued the WWE because the match was staged; that would be frivolous. But in this case people paid to see a football game. Turns out the one team wasn't playing by the rules; and it really wasn't much of a game.
Near as I can tell, the fans got to see a football game, so what's the issue there?

As far as an event not being "much of a game", I guess I'll be suing the Flames to get my money back for the exhibition games...
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Near as I can tell, the fans got to see a football game, so what's the issue there?

As far as an event not being "much of a game", I guess I'll be suing the Flames to get my money back for the exhibition games...
Make sure you ask for Game 6 money back too

Just another, along with about a million, stupid lawsuits going on in the US.

Should fans of the NBA who paid to see a game reffed by Tim Donaghy get all their money back also?
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Jets fans should sue the Jets for sucking so bad.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:54 PM   #14
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Jets fans should sue the Jets for sucking so bad.
That's what I was thinking. Sue the team for fraud.
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:07 PM   #15
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Near as I can tell, the fans got to see a football game, so what's the issue there?

As far as an event not being "much of a game", I guess I'll be suing the Flames to get my money back for the exhibition games...
I guess what I was trying to say is this- at some point pro wrestling was real. I remember in the 80's there being a debate about it being fixed; and that was even a running joke- sitcoms would poke fun at it being fixed.

So today you have some fans who at the first sign of the game being fixed are recating; I'd hate to be attending "Football Entertainment" 20 years from now instead of games.

Would I be suing? No. But I also don't see it as being that frivolous. If the fans get anything at all; a precident will be set, and maybe that will be one more thing to convince another team not to cheat.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:33 AM   #16
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if you'd been paying attention, Ken, you'd know that they were studying the signs for use at a later date, not that game in particular. Here's a great email from ESPN:

"I was watching ESPN2's showing of the '98 wild-card game between the Packers and 49ers where Young connects with T.O. to win the game. On Green Bay's last drive, Favre called a dummy audible on his TD pass to Freeman because (his words) he knew the 49ers had decoded all of their signals since they had played so many times in the last few years. Watching this, I was confused, since certain writers had convinced me that Belichick's attempt to steal signals was the first time this ever occurred in football and potentially threatened to ruin not just the Patriots, not just the NFL, not just sports, but according to Gregg Easterbrook, the very fabric of American society. Now we know it's been going on since 1998, at least. So I guess we'll be OK."

This thing is so overblown, it's a joke.
To observe your opponent and map out his tendacies and strategies is one thing. Its an art form. So is defending your strategies. But when your too dumb to figure it out. And you send a cameraman over to take all the guess work out of figuring out your opponents. That is cheating and low class as hell.
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