09-29-2007, 09:17 AM
|
#1
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
|
Jets fan sues Patriots for fraud.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns
Quote:
The lawsuit maintained that because other teams found illegal videotaping by the defendants, Jets ticket holders should be compensated for all games played in Giants Stadium between the Jets and Patriots since Belichick became head coach in 2000. The two calculated that because customers paid $61.6 million to watch eight "fraudulent" games, they're entitled to triple that amount -- or $184.8 million -- in compensation under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act.
|
__________________
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 09:29 AM
|
#2
|
Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
|
Whats next....suing a team when one of their players is found to have taken steroids?
laughable.
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 09:31 AM
|
#3
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
|
good thing we've got people using the legal system for important stuff like this. Unreal.
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 09:49 AM
|
#4
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
|
If this does go to court. I think it will be very interesting to see what kind of dirt, or lack there of, they find on the Patriots. Because I feel that the NFL has done their best to try to minimize the whole situation.
__________________
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 11:54 AM
|
#5
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
|
Everytime I see things like this, its as comic as Hacksaw Jim Duggan stirring the crowd into a frenzy, yelling:
U S A!
U S A!
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 02:51 PM
|
#6
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
|
Isn't there anything preventing frivolous lawsuits like this?
__________________
"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 03:34 PM
|
#7
|
Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
|
I guess I don't find it that "frivolous."
If somebody sued the WWE because the match was staged; that would be frivolous. But in this case people paid to see a football game. Turns out the one team wasn't playing by the rules; and it really wasn't much of a game.
And it's not like the Cleveland Browns cheated against the Colts; which would have maybe evened things up. The Pats were a heavy favourite to win, and then add the cheating and it went from being a lopsided match up to no chance of the Jets winning.
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 03:43 PM
|
#8
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
|
if you'd been paying attention, Ken, you'd know that they were studying the signs for use at a later date, not that game in particular. Here's a great email from ESPN:
"I was watching ESPN2's showing of the '98 wild-card game between the Packers and 49ers where Young connects with T.O. to win the game. On Green Bay's last drive, Favre called a dummy audible on his TD pass to Freeman because (his words) he knew the 49ers had decoded all of their signals since they had played so many times in the last few years. Watching this, I was confused, since certain writers had convinced me that Belichick's attempt to steal signals was the first time this ever occurred in football and potentially threatened to ruin not just the Patriots, not just the NFL, not just sports, but according to Gregg Easterbrook, the very fabric of American society. Now we know it's been going on since 1998, at least. So I guess we'll be OK."
This thing is so overblown, it's a joke.
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 04:02 PM
|
#9
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Isn't there anything preventing frivolous lawsuits like this?
|
No especially in the US. It doesn't cost them anything to sue companies in the US even if they lose.
|
|
|
09-29-2007, 04:17 PM
|
#10
|
#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: -
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
if you'd been paying attention, Ken, you'd know that they were studying the signs for use at a later date, not that game in particular. Here's a great email from ESPN:
"I was watching ESPN2's showing of the '98 wild-card game between the Packers and 49ers where Young connects with T.O. to win the game. On Green Bay's last drive, Favre called a dummy audible on his TD pass to Freeman because (his words) he knew the 49ers had decoded all of their signals since they had played so many times in the last few years. Watching this, I was confused, since certain writers had convinced me that Belichick's attempt to steal signals was the first time this ever occurred in football and potentially threatened to ruin not just the Patriots, not just the NFL, not just sports, but according to Gregg Easterbrook, the very fabric of American society. Now we know it's been going on since 1998, at least. So I guess we'll be OK."
This thing is so overblown, it's a joke.
|
Some people have defintley blown it up into much more then it should be.
Everyone understands stealing signals is a part of the game, but it's the video freaking taping of it that everyone has a problem with.
|
|
|
09-30-2007, 03:41 PM
|
#11
|
In the Sin Bin
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042
If somebody sued the WWE because the match was staged; that would be frivolous. But in this case people paid to see a football game. Turns out the one team wasn't playing by the rules; and it really wasn't much of a game.
|
Near as I can tell, the fans got to see a football game, so what's the issue there?
As far as an event not being "much of a game", I guess I'll be suing the Flames to get my money back for the exhibition games...
|
|
|
09-30-2007, 03:48 PM
|
#12
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakeeye
Near as I can tell, the fans got to see a football game, so what's the issue there?
As far as an event not being "much of a game", I guess I'll be suing the Flames to get my money back for the exhibition games...
|
Make sure you ask for Game 6 money back too
Just another, along with about a million, stupid lawsuits going on in the US.
Should fans of the NBA who paid to see a game reffed by Tim Donaghy get all their money back also?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
|
|
|
|
09-30-2007, 03:51 PM
|
#13
|
Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
|
Jets fans should sue the Jets for sucking so bad.
|
|
|
09-30-2007, 04:54 PM
|
#14
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: up north (by the airport)
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Jets fans should sue the Jets for sucking so bad.
|
That's what I was thinking. Sue the team for fraud.
|
|
|
09-30-2007, 05:07 PM
|
#15
|
Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakeeye
Near as I can tell, the fans got to see a football game, so what's the issue there?
As far as an event not being "much of a game", I guess I'll be suing the Flames to get my money back for the exhibition games...
|
I guess what I was trying to say is this- at some point pro wrestling was real. I remember in the 80's there being a debate about it being fixed; and that was even a running joke- sitcoms would poke fun at it being fixed.
So today you have some fans who at the first sign of the game being fixed are recating; I'd hate to be attending "Football Entertainment" 20 years from now instead of games.
Would I be suing? No. But I also don't see it as being that frivolous. If the fans get anything at all; a precident will be set, and maybe that will be one more thing to convince another team not to cheat.
|
|
|
10-01-2007, 08:33 AM
|
#16
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
if you'd been paying attention, Ken, you'd know that they were studying the signs for use at a later date, not that game in particular. Here's a great email from ESPN:
"I was watching ESPN2's showing of the '98 wild-card game between the Packers and 49ers where Young connects with T.O. to win the game. On Green Bay's last drive, Favre called a dummy audible on his TD pass to Freeman because (his words) he knew the 49ers had decoded all of their signals since they had played so many times in the last few years. Watching this, I was confused, since certain writers had convinced me that Belichick's attempt to steal signals was the first time this ever occurred in football and potentially threatened to ruin not just the Patriots, not just the NFL, not just sports, but according to Gregg Easterbrook, the very fabric of American society. Now we know it's been going on since 1998, at least. So I guess we'll be OK."
This thing is so overblown, it's a joke.
|
To observe your opponent and map out his tendacies and strategies is one thing. Its an art form. So is defending your strategies. But when your too dumb to figure it out. And you send a cameraman over to take all the guess work out of figuring out your opponents. That is cheating and low class as hell.
__________________
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:33 PM.
|
|